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They are really interesting and are putting funding into mental health research - and you can help them with their research. They are UK based, but might want international support too - and definitely an interesting read of a website.
 
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Noted, thanks. Will research.
 
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Bravo! A commendable initiative. It's very sad that something so essential has to be funded through charity, though. Once upon a time, tax money was used for helping unfortunate citizens in need and not just for paying greedy stock owners. Be that as it may, it's uplifting to see that some people realize how dire the situation is and really try to contribute to the common good.
 
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Before giving them money, I would check into who is the on the board of directors, who is the executive director, and who are the founders, as well as who their major funders are if they list them, as the funders have their own agendas and may even dictate how the organization uses their funds. Also see what studies the organization is funding through grants and who are the recipients, and research the recipients.

All of this can reveal a lot about the organization's agenda.

I think there's a tendency to think non-profit or NGO = altruistic and good, and that's not the case.

I've worked in non-profits, I had such high ideals, and it turned out they were not altruistic and good. One in fact was just using legal loopholes to funnel money into DARPA and other military medical research, and at the time I thought it was so great and doing such good. The other was a community mental health organization, and funding dictated the treatment modalities, so clients were increasingly limited in treatment options. Non-profits may feel better than regular businesses, but in my experience, they can be equally predatory.

Sorry to be a party pooper. Just wanted to highlight that such non-profit organizations can engender false feelings of goodness, and it's wise to really research before supporting them or getting excited about what they seem to be offering when it could be more of a front.
 
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All I want is euthanasia research.
 
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Before giving them money, I would check into who is the on the board of directors, who is the executive director, and who are the founders, as well as who their major funders are if they list them, as the funders have their own agendas and may even dictate how the organization uses their funds. Also see what studies the organization is funding through grants and who are the recipients, and research the recipients.

All of this can reveal a lot about the organization's agenda.

I think there's a tendency to think non-profit or NGO = altruistic and good, and that's not the case.

I've worked in non-profits, I had such high ideals, and it turned out they were not altruistic and good. One in fact was just using legal loopholes to funnel money into DARPA and other military medical research, and at the time I thought it was so great and doing such good. The other was a community mental health organization, and funding dictated the treatment modalities, so clients were increasingly limited in treatment options. Non-profits may feel better than regular businesses, but in my experience, they can be equally predatory.

Sorry to be a party pooper. Just wanted to highlight that such non-profit organizations can engender false feelings of goodness, and it's wise to really research before supporting them or getting excited about what they seem to be offering when it could be more of a front.
That's a fair point.
 
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Sorry to be a party pooper. Just wanted to highlight that such non-profit organizations can engender false feelings of goodness, and it's wise to really research before supporting them or getting excited about what they seem to be offering when it could be more of a front.
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Hey, I've worked for non-profits with a culture of bullying which directly contradicted their organisational values, so I know what you mean.

I was just relieved to read this organisation who says on their website that prescribing for mental health is (according to 8 out of 10 GPs) trial and error, and how underfunded mental health research is. I also read that Boris Johnson's mother was hospitalised with clinical depression and OCD when he was a teenager - and yet he famously said that people with depression just need to work harder, which is a stinking lie.

So I am beginning to feel quite passionate that more needs to be done in mental health research - and that is what the organisation MQ are championing. I didn't see anything that didn't look right on their website- and hte more voices the better. An epidemic of mental health issues is spreading amongst children adn young people - it is only getting worse.
All I want is euthanasia research.

That's on this forum!
 
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