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painmustend

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Jul 16, 2023
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hey, so this is more for me to sort my thoughts and get through the days.

backstory:
i hate this life. over the past few weeks i came to the conclusion that i really don´t want to live anymore. it´s not worth it. everything just gets worse and worse and even if someday i would be able to be happy again, i´m not willing to endure the mental pain anymore.
my depression started when i was 12 and then never left. i never had a time period longer than a day since then where i felt normal. at 14 i developed an eating disorder and at 21 i got a borderline diagnosis. these disorders changed my entire path of live. i needed to end school early and that also ment that i couldn´t study. people in their late teens/early tweenties are supposed to make friends and life life to the fullest. but my disorders preventet me from making any friends. if i had been able to finish school and go to university, maybe i would met some people my age who i liked, but since that was not possible, i ended up where i am now. i haven´t felt any joy in the past 5 years. it´s so tiring. i´m so fucking lonely, i can´t even describe it adaquatly. now i´m 23 and on disabilty pension (there is not really a translation to english from german but for the germans it´s "erwerbsminderungsrente"). even if i met people today, i couldn´t relate to them in the slightest. and lets be fucking honest, nobody wants to meet someone who has no friends and is extremly mentally ill. i just hate it here and i think i have more than enough reason to end all this.

today:
i thought a lot about my life in the past few weeks. the last years i spend by waking up in the morning and waiting to go to sleep. of course i had therapy and stuff, but nothing had any impact on my life quality. so i came to the conclusion that i don´t want to do this anymore. i think, its my right to ctb. i really tried a lot of different clinics, programs, therapys, meds etc. i really really tried and gave everything my best. but now i´m done. i´m tired and i can´t do this anymore. i had a multiple attempts in my past. but this attempt should be the final one. i talked to my social worker about my suicidality and, even though she´s not supporting it, she respects that wish. today i had an appointment with my psychiatrist and my social worker basically told her, how i was feeling the last couple of weeks. my psychiatrist asked me a couple of questions and i told her my decision. she said that she would like to talk to my therapist and me other social worker first or before i do anything. i was fine with that and my next appoinment is in 2 weeks. i already have sn and meto at home and i´m not under pressure to do it today or tomorrow.

later that day i had an appoinment with my therapist and it went really badly. first i didn´t really wanted to say anything because i was in a extremly depressed mood, filled with sadness and hopelessness. but the we talked about my suicidality and it went downhill fast. when the therapy began i had to sign that i wouldn´t try to ctb and if i would attempt and survive, she would end the therapy. so i know she is very strict. i knew, that either i will tell her know about my feelings, or my psychiatrist will tell her. so i told her how i was feeling and that i had no hope left. i told her that i didn´t have the stuff to do it at home (but i do) and promised her that when i ordered the sn i would tell her. i´m pretty sure that she wouldn´t have let me leave if i didn´t lie to her in that moment. she was on the brink of calling an ambulante but i really don´t want to go to the psych ward right know. it wouldn´t change anything either. she said, that the foundation of the therapy is honesty and if i´m not honest, she would end the therapy. i don´t know what to do.
i see my therapist 3 times a week, so my next appointment is on wednesday. i don´t know how to act or what to say. clearly i CANNOT be honest with her.

this day and the past few weeks just been so shitty and i hate it here. i wish i didn´t have to come to the conclusion to ctb. it´s not a nice decision. but it´s the only option to stop this pain. i really can´t take it anymore.
 
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I can't say for many people, but therapy abuse is real, especially when you have no other option but to relay on someone who can manipulate your very emotions and control the narrative over you. Some therapists are very trustworthy and do place their authority over obligating your safety — but that's only when the session is coherently settled the moment there is a underlying sense of peace to a shift in dread, and sadly, not all take stride in seeing us in very vulnerable predicaments, and you'd think they studied enough to know better, but your therapist abused you by even bringing your psychiatrist in when she could've asked if you were taking your meds first and if you needed to talk. It's obvious you have fear like most of us because the situation isn't in your favor and even needing to share our emotions of secrecy over something that's entirely our last resort of safety is deeply unfair and concerning to someone who takes the ability to still manipulate us.

I remember my last therapist forced me into a psych-ward when I never mentioned I was suicidal when I wasn't suicidal then and had changed my mind, yet still went over my head, and it bothers me how she wanted to know so much about me, even though I shared my traumas with her from the past, like you went through before you went deep into the discussion. Please switch therapists and write a letter written statement while keeping your anonymity behind this, especially as HIPPA states otherwise that isn't something she should do, unless they work under the same agency and have disclosed your medication to your therapist, as they don't work under the same rights, even if she is obligated by law to know if your suicidal or not. That doesn't mean you have the right to discuss it and feel guilt tripped into doing so either.
 
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Praestat_Mori

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May 21, 2023
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I'm sorry you have to go through this. It's such a shame that we cannot be honest with therapists/psychiatrists and suffering would only increase. Whatever you decide to do I hope you find peace. 🫂
 
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KillingPain267

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That's why this site exists. I lie to all my doctors and therapists about this topic. Because once you admit it, they literally treat you as a criminal who cannot handle to be free.
 
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painmustend

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Jul 16, 2023
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I'm sorry you have to go through this. It's such a shame that we cannot be honest with therapists/psychiatrists and suffering would only increase. Whatever you decide to do I hope you find peace. 🫂
thank you, that´s really kind. i hope the same for you🫂

That's why this site exists. I lie to all my doctors and therapists about this topic. Because once you admit it, they literally treat you as a criminal who cannot handle to be free.
yes, that´s why i´m so thankful for this site. i just wished you could talk about this in real life and be accepted. i have nothing to live for and still other people would rather see me suffering than dying.
 
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KillingPain267

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thank you, that´s really kind. i hope the same for you🫂


yes, that´s why i´m so thankful for this site. i just wished you could talk about this in real life and be accepted. i have nothing to live for and still other people would rather see me suffering than dying.
The worst is that they think they are doing good to you.
 
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Regen

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Aug 20, 2020
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Maybe you'll be lucky and this radical honesty will get you further at some point. It was pretty brave to say that so clearly... I'm pretty glad they let you go anyway, acute psychiatry doesn't really do much good.

Since you have now chosen the path of honesty, I would try to pursue it further. With one exception, of course: you say that you would only do it with sn AND that you don't have it and haven't done anything towards buying it yet! You know the game, you have to keep an eye on this limit. There is a limit where they have to react, otherwise they risk their job and more. I respect and understand that. Otherwise, try honesty. This actually helped me significantly in some areas. Maybe it will work for you too!
 
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J&L383

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Jul 18, 2023
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Maybe you'll be lucky and this radical honesty will get you further at some point. It was pretty brave to say that so clearly... I'm pretty glad they let you go anyway, acute psychiatry doesn't really do much good.

Since you have now chosen the path of honesty, I would try to pursue it further. With one exception, of course: you say that you would only do it with sn AND that you don't have it and haven't done anything towards buying it yet! You know the game, you have to keep an eye on this limit. There is a limit where they have to react, otherwise they risk their job and more. I respect and understand that. Otherwise, try honesty. This actually helped me significantly in some areas. Maybe it will work for you too!
I agree. Honesty - to a limit. The therapists are bound by rules and laws and you don't want to encroach those. I wish you well. You will always have good listeners here. 🤗
 
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painmustend

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Maybe you'll be lucky and this radical honesty will get you further at some point. It was pretty brave to say that so clearly... I'm pretty glad they let you go anyway, acute psychiatry doesn't really do much good.

Since you have now chosen the path of honesty, I would try to pursue it further. With one exception, of course: you say that you would only do it with sn AND that you don't have it and haven't done anything towards buying it yet! You know the game, you have to keep an eye on this limit. There is a limit where they have to react, otherwise they risk their job and more. I respect and understand that. Otherwise, try honesty. This actually helped me significantly in some areas. Maybe it will work for you too!
yeah, i´m pretty glad they let me go as well. i´ve been a couple times in situations where that wasn´t possible and i ended up in a closed unit.
i will try to keep being honest. you´re comment movitated me, so i´ll see how it goes.

I agree. Honesty - to a limit. The therapists are bound by rules and laws and you don't want to encroach those. I wish you well. You will always have good listeners here. 🤗
thank you, that´s really kind. i´m glad that this place exist and for people like you🫂
 
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