Method with least chance of permanent damage if failed?

[Dor]

Which method would be least harmful in case of a failure? Or is it impossible to avoid permanent damage when you've spent enough time on the brink of death, with lack of oxygen to the organs and such? Maybe this is a colossally stupid question...

 

[blindstatue]

Apparently SN has the chance of surviving with no damage if one receives medical attention, but we don't know for sure.

 

[worldexploder]

Apparently SN has the chance of surviving with no damage if one receives medical attention, but we don't know for sure.

I hate the lack of information on this. My guess is any deadly substance you take will cause brain damage if recused while the brain is starting to die.

 

[blindstatue]

I hate the lack of information on this. My guess is any deadly substance you take will cause brain damage if recused while the brain is starting to die.

That's for sure. I also think that with OD of any kind, medical attention will only extend the agony if you're found when it's too late.

 

[Cody111]

I mentioned this a while ago. Everyone was saying SN was fial proof, as in if you fail you make a full recovery.
But there has to be a point in which medical attention is to late to prevent damage yet early enough to prevent death.
As i think i put it. There is no switch from here to gone. Its a process which takes time and there has to be a period in the middle where brain damage is possible.

 

[longingforrelease]

what about SWB? I have some concerns about that method should I prematurely come out of my black out -thus while in the midst of drowning and the self-preservation instinct kicks in. anyone know about the possible brain effects of such a scenario

 

[Paulsmith]

Jumping from a long height.

 

[Threads]

Jumping from a long height.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulović

Vesna Vulović (Serbian Cyrillic: Весна Вуловић; pronounced [ˈʋeːsna ˈʋuːlɔʋit͡ɕ]; 3 January 1950 – 23 December 2016) was a Serbian flight attendant. She holds the Guinness world record for surviving the highest fall without a parachute: 10,160 metres (33,330 ft). Her fall took place after an explosion tore through the baggage compartment of JAT Flight 367 on 26 January 1972, causing it to crash near Srbská Kamenice, Czechoslovakia. She was the sole survivor of the crash that air safety investigators attributed to a briefcase bomb. The Yugoslav authorities suspected that Croatian nationalists were to blame, but no one was ever arrested.

http://www.greenharbor.com/fffolder/ffresearch.html#anchor4321021

A few people have survived a fall of thousands of feet without a working parachute. This research page is dedicated to recording their stories.

While reliable, jumping or falling is not fail safe.

OP, know and understand. There is no completely fail safe method.

 

[Paulsmith]

Wow didn't know what she did. After all that I'll health got her

 

[Muri]

If you're doing something in order to die it makes sense that there'd be a degree of damage done to the body. I doubt there is any method where you wouldn't get permanent damage.

 

[Dor]

What about jumping in a volcano? Shouldn't be failproof?

 

[Kooz]

What about jumping in a volcano? Shouldn't be failproof?

Yeah, just let me run to my closest volacno

 

[Threads]

What about jumping in a volcano? Shouldn't be failproof?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludger_Sylbaris

Ludger Sylbaris (1 June 1874[1] – c. 1929) was an Afro-Caribbean man famous for being one of the few survivors in the city of Saint-Pierre on the Caribbean island of Martinique during the devastating volcanic eruption of Mt. Pelée on May 8, 1902. Saint-Pierre, known as the "Paris of the West Indies", was in the direct path of a pyroclastic flow, which completely leveled the city and killed an estimated 30,000–40,000 people.

 

[worldexploder]

What about jumping in a volcano? Shouldn't be failproof?

It would hurt like hell. I was watching a video about what would happen if you feel into lava. You wouldn't sink right away. Your body would float on top of the lava as it snapped, crackled, and popped. Then you would go under.

 

[worldexploder]

A chewable mini-nuke would be nice!

 

[ouvreyes]

what about SWB? I have some concerns about that method should I prematurely come out of my black out -thus while in the midst of drowning and the self-preservation instinct kicks in. anyone know about the possible brain effects of such a scenario

I could be very wrong, but assuming that you get out of the water without swallowing a bunch, I'm pretty sure SWB works by hypoxia so it would be similar to things like partial or CO. Though I'd imagine plenty of water in your lungs is likely, which would suck I think.

 

[sini]

That's for sure. I also think that with OD of any kind, medical attention will only extend the agony if you're found when it's too late.

If one was forcefully rescued or changed their mind or got cold feet then better if it was something that might as well been an accident.

 

[Trashcan]

There probably isn't a method that will either kill you or cause no damage. Every method has its risk of damage if you fail. It really depends on when the intervention happens. For example, if you try hanging and the ligature either snaps while you're still conscious or you back out, you should recover. But if you get found later on, maybe even when you're clinically dead and revived, there is more of a risk of being a vegetable. People also say there won't be permanent damage if you survive SN, but it's hard to say. It's unpredictable whether you'll make a full recovery from a failed attempt or not. Two people could make the same attempt, one could make a full recovery, the other might have permanent damage. There are too many variables to say for sure.

The best way to avoid permanent damage is only doing the act when you are fully committed to it (if you're ambivalent about ctb at that moment, don't do it) and also look at reasons for why you might fail, and then prepare in advance. For example, is the concern being found in time? Then book a motel or hotel room if you can, go to an isolated area, or ctb when you know you'll be home alone for a long time. As for the methods itself, it varies. If you want to do SN, make sure you follow all instructions (fasting, antiemetics, acid reducer, etc). Are you jumping from a height? Make sure that the height is high enough that you won't survive jumping off (higher than the golden gate bridge, it's rare, but people have survived jumping off of it). If you have any methods in mind and want help with making it as fail-proof as possible, feel free to ask away. :) Hope this helped.

 

[Smashingairwaves]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulović




http://www.greenharbor.com/fffolder/ffresearch.html#anchor4321021



While reliable, jumping or falling is not fail safe.

OP, know and understand. There is no completely fail safe method.

The human body sure is resilient, the problem is I wish it wasn't

 

[longingforrelease]

I could be very wrong, but assuming that you get out of the water without swallowing a bunch, I'm pretty sure SWB works by hypoxia so it would be similar to things like partial or CO. Though I'd imagine plenty of water in your lungs is likely, which would suck I think.

thanks!

 

[Essie]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulović

http://www.greenharbor.com/fffolder/ffresearch.html#anchor4321021

While reliable, jumping or falling is not fail safe.

OP, know and understand. There is no completely fail safe method.

I'm seconding all this about jumping from heights or falling from heights, such as a plane/sky-diving/hang-gliding. I have done copious amounts of research for all my injuries, and other than people in car wrecks, the people with injuries like mine and worse have fallen from great heights. There was a Navy SEAL who fell off a mountain a few times (twice???) and was pretty much fine--lost his pants, though, and gun. But the injuries were very minor--he was lucky. It's in the book they made a movie out of, but I forget the name. I read it and watched the movie, though. So I am saying that it is not a very good method. Plus, they can sustain serious organ damage in addition to muscular-skeletal issues and then cuts/abrasions.

Edit: Movie/book was Lone Survivor. Glad I looked it up--I had the name wrong.