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When we think of dying by carbon monoxide most of the time burning charcoal is what thought of, but it's not the only way to produce it. Other ways include burning wood, formic acid and sulfuric acid. Of the three mentioned which do you think is best and why? Don't be afraid to mention other ways if you know of any.
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When we think of dying by carbon monoxide most of the time burning charcoal is what thought of, but it's not the only way to produce it. Other ways include burning wood, formic acid and sulfuric acid. Of the three mentioned which do you think is best and why? Don't be afraid to mention other ways if you know of any.
Yes but wood is not a pure carbon fuel like charcoal almost is. Charcoal is particularly good because once you reach partial combustion there is no more smoke. Wood however, I think would keep smoking even during partial combustion because of more impurities.
Benzine generator. Both ends of it create lot of smoke witch have 70 000ppm (7%) CO in them. In 10 000 ppm you pass out after few breaths and die in 1-2 minutes without pain. People have died just when plugging it.
I could never be in smoke for 5 minutes or more. So it should be above 10 000ppm or so little one don't suffer from the smoke.
But if you have a whole day or night even little is enough.
It's said that 400-800ppm (many say 200-400ppm is enough, 800ppm for sure to do it under 3h) will kill in about 3 hours. In cases where people died from it, it seems people just slept through it or lived and became unconscience and died. Nothing to show about any struggle. Those who almost died said they had no idea about CO. No bad feeling etc.
I know that when inhaling CO it makes you sleepy.
Benzine generator. Both ends of it create lot of smoke witch have 70 000ppm (7%) CO in them. In 10 000 ppm you pass out after few breaths and die in 1-2 minutes without pain. People have died just when plugging it.
I could never be in smoke for 5 minutes or more. So it should be above 10 000ppm or so little one don't suffer from the smoke.
But if you have a whole day or night even little is enough.
It's said that 400-800ppm (many say 200-400ppm is enough, 800ppm for sure to do it under 3h) will kill in about 3 hours. In cases where people died from it, it seems people just slept through it or lived and became unconscience and died. Nothing to show about any struggle. Those who almost died said they had no idea about CO. No bad feeling etc.
I know that when inhaling CO it makes you sleepy.
Send me the link of the ones that make you die when plugging it in ;) ................ah, wish I had a reason for a generator. They are quite expensive...
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I read before about mother and daughter who died when plugging the generator. There are many cases like that. I get that. 10000ppm you get unconscious in two breaths and die in 1-2 minutes. There comes a lots of smoke in both ends of the generator and that has 70000ppm of CO. In few years all generators are made in a way that their exhaust don't have much CO just like it was done to cars.
You can find more cases easily in DuckDuckGo.
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Euthanasia sites and their books have professional and reliable info on everything.
I feel little bad sharing the info but everything is in Internet everywhere.
I really hope that nobody would do it because their feelings got hurt. We all suffer to some extent from assholes in life. Gotta learn to not care what others say or might think.
That is the number one skill how to get through life and stay sane.
Mr. Buddy Heater is my way out. I've been reading up on it, and there have been a few accidental deaths from CO using it with no proper ventilation. Maybe they will determine my death was accidental, and no one I leave behind will be plagued by guilt.
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I didn't have sound in the tape (if there was any) but I bet that video was not made to show a tip to ctb. One wouldn't get CO high enough to die in rooms.
Benzine generator. Both ends of it create lot of smoke witch have 70 000ppm (7%) CO in them. In 10 000 ppm you pass out after few breaths and die in 1-2 minutes without pain. People have died just when plugging it.
I could never be in smoke for 5 minutes or more. So it should be above 10 000ppm or so little one don't suffer from the smoke.
But if you have a whole day or night even little is enough.
It's said that 400-800ppm (many say 200-400ppm is enough, 800ppm for sure to do it under 3h) will kill in about 3 hours. In cases where people died from it, it seems people just slept through it or lived and became unconscience and died. Nothing to show about any struggle. Those who almost died said they had no idea about CO. No bad feeling etc.
I know that when inhaling CO it makes you sleepy.
I understand what you're saying about staying in smoke for 5 minutes or more, but that's why why people generally don't use fuels that aren't pure. Smouldering charcoal produces basically no smoke and people who seem to think you have to sit in a fully hotboxed smokey area are wrong.
Mr. Buddy Heater is my way out. I've been reading up on it, and there have been a few accidental deaths from CO using it with no proper ventilation. Maybe they will determine my death was accidental, and no one I leave behind will be plagued by guilt.
Mr. Buddy Heater is my way out. I've been reading up on it, and there have been a few accidental deaths from CO using it with no proper ventilation. Maybe they will determine my death was accidental, and no one I leave behind will be plagued by guilt.
I think just the same way. CO deaths are usually seen as accidents. Even if it was seen as unsure if it was accident or suicide relatives can think it was accident. One study said that unsure cases are usually labeled as accidents. That's better for all and there is no crime for sure.
One shouldn't make any life insurances before ctb and should put factory settings in phone and other devices and ditch them far away from home.
In cases where people have died their death was seen as suicides and not accidents because they had put factory settings to their phones emptying all user info from it and having their phones with them. Nobody usually does that if they are not selling their phone, tablet etc. to someone.
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I think just the same way. CO deaths are usually seen as accidents. Even if it was seen as unsure if it was accident or suicide relatives can think it was accident. One study said that unsure cases are usually labeled as accidents. That's better for all and there is no crime for sure.
One shouldn't make any life insurances before ctb and should put factory settings in phone and other devices and ditch them far away from home.
In cases where people have died their death was seen as suicides and not accidents because they had put factory settings to their phones emptying all user info from it and having their phones with them. Nobody usually does that if they are not selling their phone, tablet etc. to someone.
I'm not to worried about resetting my phone back to factory, as I plan on pitching it into a fire. I always worry that someone who knows everything about cellphones will find a way into your history. I stated in a different post that under no circumstances will I implcate SS in any way, and will destroy any trace of this site off my phone. That way it stays here for you and future users.
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I think it would be always best that way. But the good thing is that one will not care in any case.
I have seen that many people who have ctb have been very sensitive, caring and loving. Like angels. Way too good for this life. I wish they had had better life. They could have brought the light to this world and change it for better.
One doctor who studied nde's in ER said that laws and attitudes should change because people don't die in physical death. They go back home where we all will go sooner or later. He used to be sure atheist. I think that document is something everyone should watch. Death should be seen as normal as birth. Part of life and journey. Not the end of anything.
I understand what you're saying about staying in smoke for 5 minutes or more, but that's why why people generally don't use fuels that aren't pure. Smouldering charcoal produces basically no smoke and people who seem to think you have to sit in a fully hotboxed smokey area are wrong.
You are right. I meant filling some space with lots of CO with generator or gas grill will make smoke in small space.
Does the charcoals have to be grey or still half red half grey? CO builds up in humans so the result is same in different levels. Some take more time than others but I think they are still fast. Different studies show different info but they all say that 800ppm ( many studies say that 200-500ppm is enough to kill in 3 h) should lead to unconscience in 1 hour and death in 3 hours.
How much CO carcoals make in small space? That may be written before so I will check that out.
Though if one would want to ctb fast then breathing the 70 000ppm smoke straight from generator will do it if covered little bit around so that there isn't too much extra air. That's why so many have died when plugging it. In mine I have to breath that smoke since plugging and on/off buttons are in same side where the smoke comes. It created no headache to me (I get migraine and headache easily do to head trauma) as said in studies. Exposure made me just dizzy and really sleepy.
After reading lots of news about deaths from CO it seems to me that if generator was in different room for some time raising CO levels to 400-800ppm in other rooms people haven't smelled or noticed it at all. That's the reason why people die so often from CO and are found sleeping. No 911 calls or signs of struggle. It seems very peacefull.
I must have written same things here. So sorry for that. I'm just really tired now.
I understand what you're saying about staying in smoke for 5 minutes or more, but that's why why people generally don't use fuels that aren't pure. Smouldering charcoal produces basically no smoke and people who seem to think you have to sit in a fully hotboxed smokey area are wrong.
I understand what you're saying about staying in smoke for 5 minutes or more, but that's why why people generally don't use fuels that aren't pure. Smouldering charcoal produces basically no smoke and people who seem to think you have to sit in a fully hotboxed smokey area are wrong.
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