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Emily_Numb

Emily_Numb

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Jan 14, 2020
654
Having been in and out of hospital for quite a few piss poor, wrong concoction OD attempts this past couple of weeks, on Friday 13th November, after having my Amitriptyline in the house for 2 days I decided this was the day.

I had an evening of drinking champagne at home, about a bottle and a half, went and had a shower, blow dried my hair, put on clean clothes and a bit of makeup then sat in the stairs of my house and popped all the pills out of their blister packs which took ages and threw them in my mouth with water, it was a fair few handfuls, no pause, no real emotion about it, no 'I'm sorry' notes, just total tunnel vision that this was the end and I was fine with that.

I have absolutely no problem in taking pills. I have barely any gag reflex after years of bulimia so the quantity was never going to bother me. Ami are small pills anyway. I hadn't eaten all day so nothing to get in the way.

My husband was asleep downstairs and then I realised that he was simply going to find me dead, top floor of the house and that would never leave him. So after about 20 minutes, I decided to call the Crisis line and ask them to call me an ambulance as I knew this was going to be a fatal dose. I just didn't want to die in my house. I told the ambulance I would meet them outside my house which is utterly ridiculous, I was on the top floor, would involve me dragging my ass down 3 flights and then get through the locked front door and climb more stairs to the street.

I've taken smaller doses of Ami before but NOTHING like this amount. In my experience, it gets processed FAST. Within 30 minutes I was at the state of Leonardo Dicaprio in the Wolf of Wall Street Quaalude scene. An absolute dribbling vegetable, foaming at the mouth and practically paralysed. I managed to drag myself to the floor my husband was on who found me and called an ambulance. It's not that I didn't want to die, it's that I realised I didn't want to die at home because it would also remind my husband of it when he saw where he found me, people who visted, it would be known as the house where that woman killed herself. Something I never thought of until it was too late.

I heard the paramedics turn up but couldn't see anything. There was no pain, no vomiting, no convulsing, just this desire to sleep. I would say it actually felt good because I knew I'd never pushed it to this point. I knew this time I'd done it properly. The relief washed over me and the world faded to black.

Until 2 days later, I was roused by an intubation tube being pulled out of my oesophagus, feeling it scratch the inside of my throat. I'd been gone for 2 days. Loaded up with feeding tubes, catethers, absolutely tripping my balls off because that happens when you OD and come back out the other side. I was having visual hallucinations in ICU, I was trying to talk to my dog, then my dog was on the bed with me and I was stroking him. I looked at my hands and they were blue. Every inch of my skin looked blue. I thought I was a Smurf. This wasn't hallucinating anymore, this was pure delirium. Fucking weirdly amazing but also quite terrifying.

After 3 nights in ICU I was moved into a respiratory ward. The Ami has totally fucked my Blood pressure, heart trace not to mention a slightly collapsed lung from the intubation tube. 3 nights I spent there being seen my specialists, mental health and medical. When I arrived inA&E and went straight to ICU I was a 6 on the Glasgow Coma Scale. It starts at 15 which is mild and goes to 3 which is brain dead.

Today I was discharged. I have serotonin syndrome as a result of the huge amounts of this drug. It's hideous but treatable over time. Lots of shakes, anxiety, palpitations - I'm sure you all know the drill on that one. I also have memory problems, massive guilt, massive amounts of trauma as a result of going through this and coming out the other side alive. It has changed my life.

I am sure some armchair experts are now going to come along at tell me I needed to take a benzodiazepine (you don't) along with a whole host of other feedback. I'm not looking for a critique. I am simply sharing my experience like I have done with my previous so called 'pathetic' 'you're lying' attempts.

3 Doctors told me they have never seen anyone survive that large of a dose of amitriptyline. I am not going to say the exact dose because I am not giving advice on how to CTB. It was A LOT of pills. We are talking grams not mg. there are resources that will tell you fatal amounts. They are not always accurate put it that way.

The crazy thing is I ordered two lots of Ami from 2 different retailers. This was the first package to arrive was 4 x LESS than my second delivery. The day I came out of ICU the second package arrived. Had it arrived first I would have taken that and I can categorically say, I would not be here writing this today.

For me it's been serendipitous. It's a sign. I wasn't supposed to die? Maybe I need to give recovery another chance? Surviving a genuine suicide attempt is such a fucking profound experience and I guess very few really get to experience it.

It has changed my life. CTB is no longer something I see in my future.
 
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Aap

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Serotonin syndrome isn't a bitch. Perhaps give recovery a chance. Most people who really want to die don't call ambulances. I hope things start looking up.
 
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Emily_Numb

Wizard
Jan 14, 2020
654
Serotonin syndrome isn't a bitch. Perhaps give recovery a chance. Most people who really want to die don't call ambulances. I hope things start looking up.
For me, Serotonin syndrome has been horrible.
Appreciate the feedback on the ambulance. Also 'most' does not mean 'all'.

Things can only get better.
 
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feast or famine

Tell Patient Zero he can have his rib back.
Jun 15, 2020
313
Sounds like you've been through a lot, don't let anyone undermine that. I can relate to your post when you say you feel maybe this is a second chance for you. I feel the same way about my last suicide attempt and what I survived.

I won't bore you with the details, but I get stuck thinking maybe the universe just hates me or maybe this really is a second chance for me.

Whatever the case for you, I'm glad you're able to gain a new perspective and I hope that your journey in moving forward is successful.
 
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Acopia

Specialist
Sep 21, 2020
356
I am both deeply sorry, and profoundly happy to read this.
I wish for you great joy!
- Acopia :heart:
 
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succor

tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down
Oct 28, 2020
103
I'm glad you failed if only because it seems to have awakened something in you that may inspire some positive change inside your heart. You made some difficult decisions that led you to where you are now and it appears your journey is not over yet. I'm praying for recovery and comfort for you, and I hope you find peace with your newfound epiphany! <3
 
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Nymph

he/him
Jul 15, 2020
2,564
I hope you have a speedy recovery, congrats on being able to call an ambulance at that kind of state. Hope you get to have a chance some other time, but see how things go. Maybe you'll see a way for recovery:heart:
 
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Gnip

Bill the Cat
Oct 10, 2020
621
A compelling, amazing detailed account of your experience. I also have large stockpile of unused amitriptyline.

To CTB or not CTB seems to be mainly a question of motives. For me, it would ultimately be something I would be doing to relive my suffering, an act on my own behalf for myself, a selfish act after a life of selflessness and self negation. My mother's existence is what deters me from doing it within her lifetime.

You decided to call an ambulance after taking it out of concern for your husband finding your body at home, where my inclination would be to drive my car someplace isolated and CTB inside my own comfortable vehicle rather than at my parents house.

CTB is something you now longer see in your future. Your experience could be of tremendous value here. Others who attempt to CTB and fail make subsequent attempts and succeed. Reportedly, almost everybody who has survived a jump off the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco regretted their decision the moment they were in the air heading down, but at least one survivor of that jump returned to the bridge to make that leap down a second time.

Katelyn Nicole Davis live streamed her short drop hanging suicide after multiple previous suicide attempts. Part of her incentive may have been to protect her half siblings from further sexual abuse, which they may have all been doomed to suffer more of if Katie hadn't been so publicly heroic. You chose to live so your husband wouldn't find your body. Katie Nicole Davis may have chosen to die in part so her half siblings might be rescued from her fate (and they were in fact rescued several months later).

Some people regret their decision to try suicide, others regret failing to CTB and try again. The clues are in the motives. I have virtually exhausted all existing treatment options. Others may not be aware of many treatment options, and professionals in mental health usually know next to nothing about what they're supposed to be experts on. For real expertise, there are many posters who are members of Sanctioned Suicide far more knowledgeable than any degrees in mental health collecting a healthy wage for failure or even making their trusting victims much worse.


Please keep us informed about your recovery from serotonin syndrome. My PharmD girlfriend has encountered patients in the hospitals she's worked at who died from serotonin syndrome, and she said it was often already too late to save them, that all their organs were already shutting down by the time they entered treatment. Sounds horrible.
 
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Apr 26, 2020
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Hence the reason I said "most" and not "all." :wink:
 
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Hopeindeath!

Warlock
Dec 7, 2019
799
Thank you for sharing your story. I wish you happiness. :hug:
 
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Deformationalplagio

Born deformed
Dec 28, 2019
378
I also od on amy a year ago they told me i was screaming while i was uncouncious did tou experience the same? I also couldnt walk and everything was turning aroound like crazy imo it was really scary
 
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HelloHell

Arcanist
Dec 26, 2019
443
Thanks for sharing! I'm happy to hear you're on your road to recovery. good luck!
 
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Kruger

Arcanist
Dec 26, 2019
482
I'm not judging you, so don't take this the wrong way - just an honest observation: it appears you never thought things through before you took the plunge. There are MANY things to consider and a great deal of planning is involved BEFORE taking the step. Something i find helpful - before you do anything, thing about how you might feel straight after you swallow the pills/sn/nembutal or whatever. Be sure you are mentally ready for that.
Anyhow, glad you're still here :-)
 
Emily_Numb

Emily_Numb

Wizard
Jan 14, 2020
654
I'm not judging you, so don't take this the wrong way - just an honest observation: it appears you never thought things through before you took the plunge. There are MANY things to consider and a great deal of planning is involved BEFORE taking the step. Something i find helpful - before you do anything, thing about how you might feel straight after you swallow the pills/sn/nembutal or whatever. Be sure you are mentally ready for that.
Anyhow, glad you're still here :-)
I'm pretty sure I thought through things. Thank you for your feedback which I disagree with.

The thing is so many people in these type of forums overthink everything to the nth degree. People can kill themselves easily every day. Enough drugs, jump, you can hang yourself with a football scarf!

The problem is the whole planning thing just turns into a hobby for most. A self soothing hobby that will never come to pass. Which is fine, but the vast majority of people using forums like this will never CTB

I also od on amy a year ago they told me i was screaming while i was uncouncious did tou experience the same? I also couldnt walk and everything was turning aroound like crazy imo it was really scary
Absolutely zero screaming. Bizarre.
 
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HelloHell

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Dec 26, 2019
443
Hey if you don't mind me asking: just to clarify
Did you take the pills as it is (without dissolving them in water)?
Im considering this method myself and would like to know that
 
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LenkaX

Maybe there is a hope!
Aug 14, 2020
366
Hey if you don't mind me asking: just to clarify
Did you take the pills as it is (without dissolving them in water)?
Im considering this method myself and would like to know that
There is also a possibility of mixing the tablets in a pudding, especially in the case of coated tablets.
 
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HelloHell

Arcanist
Dec 26, 2019
443
There is also a possibility of mixing the tablets in a pudding, especially in the case of coated tablets.
Woah good to know that. I'm fairly new to this method and haven't had much knowledge about it. Thanks for the info!
 
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Emily_Numb

Wizard
Jan 14, 2020
654
Hey if you don't mind me asking: just to clarify
Did you take the pills as it is (without dissolving them in water)?
Im considering this method myself and would like to know that
As is. Not dissolved.
 
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shay23

Student
Nov 2, 2020
174
Serotonin syndrome isn't a bitch. Perhaps give recovery a chance. Most people who really want to die don't call ambulances. I hope things start looking up.
You can be suicidal but still have survival instinct, there is no objective way to be suicidal. To take that amount of pills proves they were serious about their attempt, just because an ambulance was called doesn't diminish that.
Hope you're okay OP.
 
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Emily_Numb

Wizard
Jan 14, 2020
654
How is your heart?
I'm home now so can't give you an exact my readings now of course. All I remember is was it was called Sinus tachycardia. I've bee prescribed Propranolol. Does that make sense? I'm not sure if I've got that right as it's not something I've ever had before. I *think* that's what the Beta blockers are for. My memory isn't the greatest today after only being home less than 24hrs.

With regards to the Seration syndrome I'm now back on Diazepam to help that.
 
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overandout

Experienced
Feb 28, 2019
234
I'm home now so can't give you an exact my readings now of course. All I remember is was it was called Sinus tachycardia. I've bee prescribed Propranolol. Does that make sense? I'm not sure if I've got that right as it's not something I've ever had before. I *think* that's what the Beta blockers are for. My memory isn't the greatest today after only being home less than 24hrs.

Where did you get your amitriptyline from?
 
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Enlightened
Apr 26, 2020
1,856
Yeah it makes sense. The memory will come back as everything recovers. Hope you feel better. Hopefully there isn't too much muscle pain or twitching from the serotonin syndrome.
 
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LoveTakesManyForms

Student
Sep 9, 2021
175
Sounds like you had a pretty intense experience!!

Hey, sorry to revive an old thread but am just wondering how many mg of amitriptyline you took as well as your body weight?
Am considering this method myself at the moment, I have around 1,000mg and am a 30 year old 90kg male.
Thanks.
 
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Jadzia

Name is from Star Trek. I'm not from E. Europe
May 8, 2019
405
Sounds like you had a pretty intense experience!!

Hey, sorry to revive an old thread but am just wondering how many mg of amitriptyline you took as well as your body weight?
Am considering this method myself at the moment, I have around 1,000mg and am a 30 year old 90kg male.
Thanks.
The PPHB says you need 10 grams. They used to say 5 but have increased it.
 
Joeydoe

Joeydoe

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Aug 17, 2022
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Having been in and out of hospital for quite a few piss poor, wrong concoction OD attempts this past couple of weeks, on Friday 13th November, after having my Amitriptyline in the house for 2 days I decided this was the day.

I had an evening of drinking champagne at home, about a bottle and a half, went and had a shower, blow dried my hair, put on clean clothes and a bit of makeup then sat in the stairs of my house and popped all the pills out of their blister packs which took ages and threw them in my mouth with water, it was a fair few handfuls, no pause, no real emotion about it, no 'I'm sorry' notes, just total tunnel vision that this was the end and I was fine with that.

I have absolutely no problem in taking pills. I have barely any gag reflex after years of bulimia so the quantity was never going to bother me. Ami are small pills anyway. I hadn't eaten all day so nothing to get in the way.

My husband was asleep downstairs and then I realised that he was simply going to find me dead, top floor of the house and that would never leave him. So after about 20 minutes, I decided to call the Crisis line and ask them to call me an ambulance as I knew this was going to be a fatal dose. I just didn't want to die in my house. I told the ambulance I would meet them outside my house which is utterly ridiculous, I was on the top floor, would involve me dragging my ass down 3 flights and then get through the locked front door and climb more stairs to the street.

I've taken smaller doses of Ami before but NOTHING like this amount. In my experience, it gets processed FAST. Within 30 minutes I was at the state of Leonardo Dicaprio in the Wolf of Wall Street Quaalude scene. An absolute dribbling vegetable, foaming at the mouth and practically paralysed. I managed to drag myself to the floor my husband was on who found me and called an ambulance. It's not that I didn't want to die, it's that I realised I didn't want to die at home because it would also remind my husband of it when he saw where he found me, people who visted, it would be known as the house where that woman killed herself. Something I never thought of until it was too late.

I heard the paramedics turn up but couldn't see anything. There was no pain, no vomiting, no convulsing, just this desire to sleep. I would say it actually felt good because I knew I'd never pushed it to this point. I knew this time I'd done it properly. The relief washed over me and the world faded to black.

Until 2 days later, I was roused by an intubation tube being pulled out of my oesophagus, feeling it scratch the inside of my throat. I'd been gone for 2 days. Loaded up with feeding tubes, catethers, absolutely tripping my balls off because that happens when you OD and come back out the other side. I was having visual hallucinations in ICU, I was trying to talk to my dog, then my dog was on the bed with me and I was stroking him. I looked at my hands and they were blue. Every inch of my skin looked blue. I thought I was a Smurf. This wasn't hallucinating anymore, this was pure delirium. Fucking weirdly amazing but also quite terrifying.

After 3 nights in ICU I was moved into a respiratory ward. The Ami has totally fucked my Blood pressure, heart trace not to mention a slightly collapsed lung from the intubation tube. 3 nights I spent there being seen my specialists, mental health and medical. When I arrived inA&E and went straight to ICU I was a 6 on the Glasgow Coma Scale. It starts at 15 which is mild and goes to 3 which is brain dead.

Today I was discharged. I have serotonin syndrome as a result of the huge amounts of this drug. It's hideous but treatable over time. Lots of shakes, anxiety, palpitations - I'm sure you all know the drill on that one. I also have memory problems, massive guilt, massive amounts of trauma as a result of going through this and coming out the other side alive. It has changed my life.

I am sure some armchair experts are now going to come along at tell me I needed to take a benzodiazepine (you don't) along with a whole host of other feedback. I'm not looking for a critique. I am simply sharing my experience like I have done with my previous so called 'pathetic' 'you're lying' attempts.

3 Doctors told me they have never seen anyone survive that large of a dose of amitriptyline. I am not going to say the exact dose because I am not giving advice on how to CTB. It was A LOT of pills. We are talking grams not mg. there are resources that will tell you fatal amounts. They are not always accurate put it that way.

The crazy thing is I ordered two lots of Ami from 2 different retailers. This was the first package to arrive was 4 x LESS than my second delivery. The day I came out of ICU the second package arrived. Had it arrived first I would have taken that and I can categorically say, I would not be here writing this today.

For me it's been serendipitous. It's a sign. I wasn't supposed to die? Maybe I need to give recovery another chance? Surviving a genuine suicide attempt is such a fucking profound experience and I guess very few really get to experience it.

It has changed my life. CTB is no longer something I see in my future.
"I am not going to say the exact dose because I am not giving advice on how to CTB."

So then why tell the story? What was the point? So you'd rather someone take the wrong amount and possibly suffer horrendously?
 
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