Nembutal seller Alejandro Vasquez, (referred to as "A and D" in the Peaceful Pill Handbook), has been arrested.

[Talvikki]

A federal grand jury in Chicago has indicted a Mexican resident on charges of illegally importing and distributing the drug Pentobarbital from Mexico to the United States.

Daniel Gonzalez-Munguia, also known as "Alejandro Vasquez," (A and D in the Peaceful Pill Handbook) is accused of operating an online drug business to sell Pentobarbital to individuals contemplating suicide in the U.S. and worldwide.

During the investigation, law enforcement intercepted numerous parcels shipped from Mexico allegedly by Gonzalez-Munguia. Authorities conducted well-being checks and recovered Pentobarbital from several despondent individuals who admitted ordering the drug online. In some cases, individuals who purchased the drug were later found dead, including in the Chicago area.

Gonzalez-Munguia of Puebla, Mexico, faces up to 60 years in federal prison if convicted. He is currently in U.S. custody, awaiting arraignment in federal court in Chicago.

https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/man-from-mexico-indicted-chicago-allegedly-importing-suicide-drug

https://www.myhometowntoday.com/new...ing-suicide-drug-after-some-buyers-found-dead

 

[Ln42]

I always wondered what happened to him.

 

[Tesha]

Haven't yet read the articles, but how do you know he was D as well?

 

[Superdeterminist]

Fuck them. Free Daniel

 

[Talvikki]

Haven't yet read the articles, but how do you know he was D as well?

According to Philip Nitschke, A and D were the same

 

[Tesha]

According to Philip Nitschke, A and D were the same

Ah. I got a welfare check a few years back, due to D - the police left empty handed, so I'll be interested to see if there's any more follow up.

 

[Apathy79]

Annoying. Guy was doing a great thing. Kevorkian all over again.

 

[ms_beaverhousen]

I read about some big busts in Chicago, but they were for fentanyl. I wonder if this is related :/

 

[Dot]

Haven't yet read the articles, but how do you know he was D as well?

Artcle sys 'sellr frm Mexco' & thr nme & nck-nme strt wth 'A & D'

Also pricng & dscriptns of packgng r th/ sme as othr membrs hve dscribd

 

[Tesha]

Also pricng & dscriptns of packgng r th/ sme as othr membrs hve dscribd

The email instructions and pricing described in the articles weren't that similar to D - I had a number of orders with him (I had a tendency to dispose of N when feeling better and then reorder). Maybe it was because I'm not US based that the prices varied, although D was open to negotiation for repeat buyers…

 

[ThisGameIsOverrated]

This is why I really hope in the coming years DNM drugs start being used for CTB more often, DNM vendors already take care of their privacy so the chances of them getting found and arrested are much slimmer

 

[davidtorez]

This is interesting news. I ordered my N from AV in 2018 and my first batch was confiscated. I also got a welfare check at 4am with 2 cops knocking on my door . My second order came through however as I used a different payment method. Sad news him getting arrested when its the scammers who should be the ones who are getting arrested instead .

 

[Orange Cat]

The email instructions and pricing described in the articles weren't that similar to D - I had a number of orders with him (I had a tendency to dispose of N when feeling better and then reorder). Maybe it was because I'm not US based that the prices varied, although D was open to negotiation for repeat buyers…

The email sounds similar to A's email. He used to tell people to mix the N with some orange juice. It doesn't sound like D to me either. The writing style seems different.

Anyway it's hard to believe that he actually used yahoo mail to do business. You'd think that he would have more sense than that.

 

[Talvikki]

Ah. I got a welfare check a few years back, due to D - the police left empty handed, so I'll be interested to see if there's any more follow up.

I don't think there will be any more wellness checks since the police have been working on the case since 2016.

How a suburban well-being check cracked an international ‘suicide drug’ operation

A well-being check at a Libertyville hotel nearly a decade ago has resulted in federal charges for a Mexican national accused of illegally shipping a suicide-assistance drug to multiple countries. Pro...

www.dailyherald.com

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Now maybe people will believe that those ordering N from D got police checks

I always thought the evil U.S. government were the ones that took down N from d

He was supplying Nembutal for many years to people that read the pph and then to those that read this site too for years. It was easy to order just email send payment and then receive a few bottles of nembutal to your door

It's pure evil to deny people suffering extremely a way out. Everyone should have the option to exit this evil prison world and evil life if they want to. We all will die anyway. They already have 8.3 billion slaves and ai on the way .pure evil to not let the ones suffering out . What 8.3 billion slaves not enough?

Imo What ruined everything was the new York times article that brought massive attention to this site . The police checks happened a short time after that article. Why I think this . Because for 15 years before that you could easily buy nembutal online from several sources including N from d N from a . It was only a few months after the new York times article that they took down N from d

 

[davidtorez]

I don't think there will be any more wellness checks since the police have been working on the case since 2016.

How a suburban well-being check cracked an international ‘suicide drug’ operation

A well-being check at a Libertyville hotel nearly a decade ago has resulted in federal charges for a Mexican national accused of illegally shipping a suicide-assistance drug to multiple countries. Pro...

www.dailyherald.com

Good to hear! I definitely am not looking forward to anymore welfare checks. I almost lost my security license because of it last time!

 

[EternalShore]

Good to hear! I definitely am not looking forward to anymore welfare checks. I almost lost my security license because of it last time!

I'm sorry to hear~ :( but glad you didn't lose it at the very least! ^_^ shouldn't these dumb pro-lifers realize that making our lives harder is only going to make us want to pass even more tho~ :/

 

[losing hope]

I don't think I have seen any N transactions with "A" or "D" in the last 2 years. Thus I can only conclude that it is doubtful anyone would take up this vacant spot.

 

[Ambivalent1]

That stuff should be over the counter accessible. I wonder how many would buy it.

 

[davidtorez]

I'm sorry to hear~ :( but glad you didn't lose it at the very least! ^_^ shouldn't these dumb pro-lifers realize that making our lives harder is only going to make us want to pass even more tho~ :/

I definitely agree with you there

 

[losing hope]

That stuff should be over the counter accessible. I wonder how many would buy it.

Heard that ctb rates amongst Doctors & vets are extermely high for this very reason.

 

[shimmerdeath]

fuck the jury. the man was just hustling and helping people. justice isn't real

 

[Leiden]

This guy is a Saint!! It's so unfair this is happening to him and really sucks for us. This guy deserves a medal of honor in my opinion, not jail time.

 

[Alessa]

Its the REAL heroes, that are treated as the "bad guys" in public by media. They don't wear capes, they aren't popular icons or stars... And this guy might be arrested for his "crime" to a long time stay in prison, but he will forever be known as a hero who helped other to stop the suffering they had to endure in this gruesome life.

 

[davidtorez]

Its the REAL heroes, that are treated as the "bad guys" in public by media. They don't wear capes, they aren't popular icons or stars... And this guy might be arrested for his "crime" to a long time stay in prison, but he will forever be known as a hero who helped other to stop the suffering they had to endure in this gruesome life.

Well said.

 

[wljourney]

Now maybe people will believe that those ordering N from D got police checks

I always thought the evil U.S. government were the ones that took down N from d

He was supplying Nembutal for many years to people that read the pph and then to those that read this site too for years. It was easy to order just email send payment and then receive a few bottles of nembutal to your door

It's pure evil to deny people suffering extremely a way out. Everyone should have the option to exit this evil prison world and evil life if they want to. We all will die anyway. They already have 8.3 billion slaves and ai on the way .pure evil to not let the ones suffering out . What 8.3 billion slaves not enough?

Imo What ruined everything was the new York times article that brought massive attention to this site . The police checks happened a short time after that article. Why I think this . Because for 15 years before that you could easily buy nembutal online from several sources including N from d N from a . It was only a few months after the new York times article that they took down N from d

.

There were wellness checks and confiscations of N in early 2022.
Those were very likely connected to this investigation and the information police collected along the way. Those were the last N orders before things shut down completely.

Then the NYT article came out in late 2022 iirc.

A few months later the Canadian seller of SN was arrested and then we had another round of wellness checks in early 2023 related to SN.

But I agree. That NYT article brought a whole lot of attention from many different people to this site.

 

[Illegal Preclear]

#FreeDanielGonzalezMunguia

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

.

There were wellness checks and confiscations of N in early 2022.
Those were very likely connected to this investigation and the information police collected along the way. Those were the last N orders before things shut down completely.

Then the NYT article came out in late 2022 iirc.

A few months later the Canadian seller of SN was arrested and then we had another round of wellness checks in early 2023 related to SN.

But I agree. That NYT article brought a whole lot of attention from many different people to this site.

The evil new york times article smearing this website was out on December 09 2021: imo they got N from D arrested right after in 2022 around May 2022 because that's when D stopped responding . and also as the result of the NY times article now the U.S. congress will soon pass banning SN for sale to individuals. And the congress monster sponsoring this bill even mentions the NY times and the lies and propaganda against this site. imo the U.S. gov nor congress would have paid attention to this website N from D or SN if the NY times hadn't written that hit peice of lies. This was why they wrote it to ban SN and to get this site banned too. they haven't been able to ban the site but are about to ban SN in the USA

Where the Despairing Log On, and Learn Ways to Die (Published 2021)

It has the trappings of popular social media, a young audience and explicit content on suicide that other sites don’t allow. It is linked to a long line of lives cut short.

www.nytimes.com

House Passes Trahan’s Youth Poisoning Protection Act

trahan.house.gov

WASHINGTON, DC – Today, the U.S. House of Representatives passed Congresswoman Lori Trahan's (MA-03)Youth Poisoning Protection Act, bipartisan legislation that would ban the consumer sale of products containing high concentrations of sodium nitrite, a meat-curing chemical that can be lethal when ingested. The legislation was introduced last year along with Representatives Mike Carey (R-OH-15), Katie Porter (D-CA-47), and Chris Stewart (R-UT-02) as well as Senators Tammy Duckworth (D-IL) and JD Vance (R-OH).


"The Youth Poisoning Protection Act is urgently needed to limit consumer access to high concentrations of a dangerous, toxic chemical that's being promoted online as a method to die by suicide," Congresswoman Trahan said during debate over the bill on the House floor. "It solely seeks to end the straight to consumer sale of highly concentrated Sodium Nitrite that is helping fuel the efforts of anonymous suicide forum users pushing vulnerable people to end their lives. It's simple, it's straightforward, and it has the potential to save lives."


A 2021 New York Times investigation into an online suicide forum found that sodium nitrite was being popularized and encouraged as an easily accessible method to die by suicide. The forum, which is disguised as a safe place to discuss suicidal ideation, hosts threads where anonymous users provide detailed instructions and real-time guidance on how to die by suicide using sodium nitrite.

 

[wljourney]

Hih

The evil new york times article smearing this website was out on December 09 2021: imo they got N from D arrested right after in 2022 around May 2022 because that's when D stopped responding . and also as the result of the NY times article now the U.S. congress will soon pass banning SN for sale to individuals. And the congress monster sponsoring this bill even mentions the NY times and the lies and propaganda against this site. imo the U.S. gov nor congress would have paid attention to this website N from D or SN if the NY times hadn't written that hit peice of lies. This was why they wrote it to ban SN and to get this site banned too. they haven't been able to ban the site but are about to ban SN in the USA

Where the Despairing Log On, and Learn Ways to Die (Published 2021)

It has the trappings of popular social media, a young audience and explicit content on suicide that other sites don’t allow. It is linked to a long line of lives cut short.

www.nytimes.com

House Passes Trahan’s Youth Poisoning Protection Act

trahan.house.gov

WASHINGTON, DC – Today, the U.S. House of Representatives passed Congresswoman Lori Trahan's (MA-03)Youth Poisoning Protection Act, bipartisan legislation that would ban the consumer sale of products containing high concentrations of sodium nitrite, a meat-curing chemical that can be lethal when ingested. The legislation was introduced last year along with Representatives Mike Carey (R-OH-15), Katie Porter (D-CA-47), and Chris Stewart (R-UT-02) as well as Senators Tammy Duckworth (D-IL) and JD Vance (R-OH).


"The Youth Poisoning Protection Act is urgently needed to limit consumer access to high concentrations of a dangerous, toxic chemical that's being promoted online as a method to die by suicide," Congresswoman Trahan said during debate over the bill on the House floor. "It solely seeks to end the straight to consumer sale of highly concentrated Sodium Nitrite that is helping fuel the efforts of anonymous suicide forum users pushing vulnerable people to end their lives. It's simple, it's straightforward, and it has the potential to save lives."


A 2021 New York Times investigation into an online suicide forum found that sodium nitrite was being popularized and encouraged as an easily accessible method to die by suicide. The forum, which is disguised as a safe place to discuss suicidal ideation, hosts threads where anonymous users provide detailed instructions and real-time guidance on how to die by suicide using sodium nitrite.

Huh, I would have sworn that the NYT article came out AFTER D stopped replying to emails. So many people who had hoped to order soon and didn't get the chance. So many scammers popped up quickly after too.


And yes, the NYT story. Those were the days.

I'm surprised that the US is actually considering a law like that.
Not banning guns, but banning SN?

What are the chances that it's passed in the Senate? Do you know?

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Hih



Huh, I would have sworn that the NYT article came out AFTER D stopped replying to emails. So many people who had hoped to order soon and didn't get the chance. So many scammers popped up quickly after too.


And yes, the NYT story. Those were the days.

I'm surprised that the US is actually considering a law like that.
Not banning guns, but banning SN?

What are the chances that it's passed in the Senate? Do you know?

Yeah it was a few months after the NY times article ( December 2021) saying a whole bunch of lies against this site that the U.S. government got D ( N from D arrested in may 2022). keep in mind D was selling N to the PPH readers and to people on this site since at least 2019 as A and D. but no one stopped him or payed attention to this site or N from D or SN . People could buy Nembutal online for at least 15 years before 2022 from PPH sources. imo it was only after the NY times brought all that attention and of the U.S. government and U.S. congress that they arrested D ( Nembutal from D) , stopped N from D sales and paid welfare checks to those who bought Nembutal in the U.S. Canada maybe other countries too.

It's even in the Congress writings they are refrencing the NY times article. this is why the congress even knows about SN .Looks like they will pass it . already passed the House . don't know when but they'll pass it into law imo. i think this is the only country where they are passing a law like this specifically to stop suicide with SN. this is the worst country the USA.

People are going to have to hang themselves, jump , train or gun after the monsters pass the ban of SN

Most oppressive pos monsters ever. i'm going to kill myself give a middle finger to these oppressive controlling monsters .

House Passes Trahan’s Youth Poisoning Protection Act

trahan.house.gov

WASHINGTON, DC – Today, the U.S. House of Representatives passed Congresswoman Lori Trahan's (MA-03)Youth Poisoning Protection Act, bipartisan legislation that would ban the consumer sale of products containing high concentrations of sodium nitrite, a meat-curing chemical that can be lethal when ingested. The legislation was introduced last year along with Representatives Mike Carey (R-OH-15), Katie Porter (D-CA-47), and Chris Stewart (R-UT-02) as well as Senators Tammy Duckworth (D-IL) and JD Vance (R-OH).


"The Youth Poisoning Protection Act is urgently needed to limit consumer access to high concentrations of a dangerous, toxic chemical that's being promoted online as a method to die by suicide," Congresswoman Trahan said during debate over the bill on the House floor. "It solely seeks to end the straight to consumer sale of highly concentrated Sodium Nitrite that is helping fuel the efforts of anonymous suicide forum users pushing vulnerable people to end their lives. It's simple, it's straightforward, and it has the potential to save lives."


A 2021 New York Times investigation into an online suicide forum found that sodium nitrite was being popularized and encouraged as an easily accessible method to die by suicide. The forum, which is disguised as a safe place to discuss suicidal ideation, hosts threads where anonymous users provide detailed instructions and real-time guidance on how to die by suicide using sodium nitrite.