Discussion Nicotine OD but I, like, actually do it this time. Probably. Maybe.

[hematomatema]

I'm just making this thread instead of using the older one I made for a few days ago so it's a bit easier to find for people interested in this method.

To summarise:

• I will be attempting using a liquid nicotine solution (250ml, 72mg/ml, so 18,000mg or 18 grams of nicotine in solution) ingested orally alongside an antiemetic a few hours earlier (domperidone.) Amount of AE to be consumed unknown yet - I'll just go with the flow when I get there and update the thread with it.
• Nicotine's LD50 is frequently misreported as being 10mg/ml due to outdated sources alongside with few reports - the actual LD50 is likely to be closer to 50-60mg/ml, although this is not an issue given the accessibility of the solution.
• The cause of death from this method is highly likely to be from cardiac arrest (may be incredibly painful but only for a few seconds as you go unconscious quite quickly, from what I hear, with death following in minutes if left unattended) which then results in brain death from no oxygen and all that. Nothing too surprising. Expected symptoms before cardiac arrest are myoclonus (uncontrollable muscle movements, similar to that that occur during a seizure), nausea, tachycardia, the works.
• Weight is 73kg. Age is 18. Male. Generally healthy, no other pre-existing conditions (besides mental, otherwise I wouldn't be here would I?) so for a typical person this should be quite indicative of what will happen should you try this method.
• Nicotine intoxication and overdose is exceptionally rare, with fewer than 100 different reports written up in papers, with even fewer describing possible treatments and methods of combatting the method. Should this method be generally painless, it would possibly rival SN (or outright beat it) in terms of efficacy, accessibility, price, peace, time taken, etc. Time will tell if this is the case.
• I will write up what happens in comments on this thread. I will attempt somewhere around 9-11AM BST. For timings involved with each report, use BST as the time zone.
• Once it gets too much, I'll let you lot know (unless I go into arrest too fast and I don't have time - in which case no more comments will either mean I'm being treated at a hospital or just dead.)
• Last meal was at around 00:30 (12:30AM, so 1.5 hours ago from the creation of this post), same for drink. I will have a small glass of Coke to wash the pills down easier, along with the nicotine, but not much more to avoid throwing up as much as possible.

Preliminary notes:

• I actually don't have a clue how much domperidone I need to take for this. I don't want to overdo it because the OD symptoms would actually just defeat the point of it, but if I underdo it, I might not be able to make the most of the AE effects.
• I'm fully expecting to throw up during this, though - I just need enough time to absorb at least 4 grams or so of nicotine (which should be easily doable given the concentration of the solution) for a likely successful CTB. I might have to stick a bucket next to my bed because I want to look presentable and nice when I go out, not with my face buried in my own bile and vomit.
• Related to the above, I wonder if I should stagger the nicotine ingestion. 250ml, 72mg/ml, I only really need 56ml (rounded up) of this stuff to have a very high chance of death. I could take 56ml of the stuff, ingest it, and then wait 2-3 minutes before doing the next lot. This might be necessary not only to avoid the likely vomiting (so that there's less solution to vomit up in the first place) but also to avoid having to expose myself to a lot of the taste in the first place (it smells, and very likely tastes, like death, ironically enough.)
• Given that it's around 2AM, I might pull an all-nighter for this so that I fall asleep and go in peace easier, maybe even having a chance of dying from the cardiac arrest in my sleep, if I don't wake up from the constantly-aforementioned vomiting.
• Feel free to ask me anything personal. I don't care. I did this on the last thread, why not here. I have 8-9 hours to go, why not make the best use of it. Might also update my About Me with some more identifiable information, not so people I know IRL will find it, but just so that the people on this forum know a little bit more about me (and maybe some of my online friends will find it, I don't know.)

 

[ladylazarus4]

I've heard it tastes so bad, have you ever tasted it? I'm not sure I could bring myself to ingest it. I hope this isn't painful for you. Best wishes, you're in my thoughts.

eta: is there a reason you added "probably. maybe." in the title? You don't have to do this if you're uncertain about it. But of course I totally understand that this is what you want. I'm not trying to be pro-life, I just think you should be certain about it.

 

[hematomatema]

I've heard it tastes so bad, have you ever tasted it? I'm not sure I could bring myself to ingest it. I hope this isn't painful for you. Best wishes, you're in my thoughts.

I might give it a taste test, just a drop of the stuff. I think it's influenced based on what the solution actually is. Mine is a propylene glycol solution, rather than VG (don't know what that stands for, never bothered to check) so that might definitely make it taste worse than the other type, I don't know. I'll try and get a teeny amount out and taste test the stuff but at the same time I'm hesitant to do so because it might put me off of my method (whether or not the mere taste of a solution is enough to do that is a sign I shouldn't do it, who knows.) I do know it smells foul though. I'm hoping it's similar to drinking alcohol or something, where it burns and has a nasty aftertaste but it can be washed away. It's also another reason why I'm debating lowering the volume of solution I consume - I can 100% get 100ml or so down in a gulp or two, but 250ml, I'm not sure.

 

[reallysleepy]

I might give it a taste test, just a drop of the stuff. I think it's influenced based on what the solution actually is. Mine is a propylene glycol solution, rather than VG (don't know what that stands for, never bothered to check) so that might definitely make it taste worse than the other type, I don't know. I'll try and get a teeny amount out and taste test the stuff but at the same time I'm hesitant to do so because it might put me off of my method (whether or not the mere taste of a solution is enough to do that is a sign I shouldn't do it, who knows.) I do know it smells foul though. I'm hoping it's similar to drinking alcohol or something, where it burns and has a nasty aftertaste but it can be washed away. It's also another reason why I'm debating lowering the volume of solution I consume - I can 100% get 100ml or so down in a gulp or two, but 250ml, I'm not sure.

250 ml is a whole cup, would be a couple of seconds of drinking. If it's taste really bad that would be hard, but can it taste worst than like some nasty medicine we all have probably taking some time in our lives?
I hope it's easy for you and that it doesn't taste that bad <3

 

[hematomatema]

Getting ready to take my domperidone I around an hour or two, and then will do the SN an hour or an hour and a half after that. Don't want to give it too long just in case it wears off.

However, I've been doing a little bit of thinking and I'm wondering whether or not I should call for an ambulance when I'm about to go into cardiac arrest. I'm not a big fan of my parents being the ones to find my corpse - I wouldn't want to traumatise my mother so severely like that (although I imagine the death of her son would already do enough of that.) Is this a smart idea? I might see if I can't find a way to set up a message or pre-recorded call for them to find me rather than my parents that goes off an hour after I expect to pass or something (unless I cancel it, of course.) Is this the play to make?

 

[heyhoherewego]

Getting ready to take my domperidone I around an hour or two, and then will do the SN an hour or an hour and a half after that. Don't want to give it too long just in case it wears off.

However, I've been doing a little bit of thinking and I'm wondering whether or not I should call for an ambulance when I'm about to go into cardiac arrest. I'm not a big fan of my parents being the ones to find my corpse - I wouldn't want to traumatise my mother so severely like that (although I imagine the death of her son would already do enough of that.) Is this a smart idea? I might see if I can't find a way to set up a message or pre-recorded call for them to find me rather than my parents that goes off an hour after I expect to pass or something (unless I cancel it, of course.) Is this the play to make?

in my first attempt i was experimenting with smth like this
used a whatsapp msg scheduler to send a msg to my friends telling them to call the police and what to say
next time i wont do allat cus it didnt help me go through with it (which is really the only goal of any pre-death preparation)

 

[sancta-simplicitas]

Getting ready to take my domperidone I around an hour or two, and then will do the SN an hour or an hour and a half after that. Don't want to give it too long just in case it wears off.

However, I've been doing a little bit of thinking and I'm wondering whether or not I should call for an ambulance when I'm about to go into cardiac arrest. I'm not a big fan of my parents being the ones to find my corpse - I wouldn't want to traumatise my mother so severely like that (although I imagine the death of her son would already do enough of that.) Is this a smart idea? I might see if I can't find a way to set up a message or pre-recorded call for them to find me rather than my parents that goes off an hour after I expect to pass or something (unless I cancel it, of course.) Is this the play to make?

Just keep in mind that cardiac arrests can be reversed and if you called an ambulance and told them what you'd done they'd likely hurry like hell. Not so sure about long term damages from nicotine OD but I'd imagine the nervous system could be affected quite a bit. Some phones let's you schedule a text message, mine's an Android and it can be done if I hold down the "send" button. Might be a safer option.

Remember that if you feel uncertain, you can always change your mind.

 

[FuneralCry]

I wish you the best.

 

[ladylazarus4]

are you still here? Perhaps you have found peace now- if you have, I hope it wasn't painful.

 

[hematomatema]

are you still here? Perhaps you have found peace now- if you have, I hope it wasn't painful.

I was not able to go through with it. Not because nicotine consumption wouldn't work - quite the opposite, actually. It was far too potent.

I forgot to do it yesterday or the day before so I was about to try not even 10 minutes ago. I was already hesitant because I was pushing it when it came to time (less than two hours before my parents come home) but to try and regain my resolve, I had a taste test of one drop of the liquid nicotine solution (unlikely to have even been 1ml) in a diluted small glass of water (maybe 200ml?) and it was vile. The scent was incredibly strong and the taste even more so. It was enough to handle, but that was a single drop in a glass of water. If I could hardly stomach the nicotine in this diluted solution then I really do doubt I would have been able to consume even the bare minimum dosage required to CTB. I'm drinking water now to try and remove the aftertaste from my mouth but I've had to switch cups and refill the water multiple times because I can taste the remnants of the nicotine that have gone from my lips into the water. It is truly rancid stuff.

I'm not going to discredit this method - I believe this is a fully functional, cheap, effective way of CTBing with minimal pain during the process. I cannot say that so earnestly about the actual consumption process though - it will almost definitely burn as it moves down your throat and linger afterwards as the worst aftertaste you will ever experience or have experienced. The burn itself is stronger than if you were to just down straight vodka as well, I don't think I can stress how bad it is. That single drop in the water, and a small sip of that water at that, was enough to make me nearly vomit as it got partially stuck to the back of my throat, and I'm feeling a little shaky already (although whether or not this is the adrenaline of having tried it, a placebo, or the actual nicotine, is impossible to say.)

Additionally, just to really try and explain how potent this stuff is - I accidentally got a few drops (maybe a couple ml) of the stuff on my hand and, despite immediately washing it off, my skin is already somewhat irritated and a small blemish has appeared on my thumb. Not toxic enough to warrant calling an ambulance over, let alone even asking a doctor about it, but it has left its mark on something as reasonably tough and resilient as human skin in just a minute or so. I cannot imagine what it would do to the softer, sensitive inner tissues before reaching your stomach. If anything, I doubt it would make it to your stomach in time - the base solution is exceptionally viscous, like those medicines for colds or coughs, making it a very difficult thing to even swallow, even diluted, let alone taste while feeling the burn.

I don't think I can recommend the nicotine consumption method anymore. If there is one damning aspect of it in comparison to SN, it's the process of actually drinking it. I may have to consider SN as an option, which isn't inherently a bad thing, but it does mean I'll have to wait longer for the delivery, and I'll also have to try and find out how to actually get any (I wouldn't have a clue, I've heard of DMC but I don't know what it is.) I will not be trying this again. Feel free to ask me any more questions about it.

By the way, to the people asking if I was certain about it - I'm not, but I never will be, even if I was actively being physically tortured and the pain was too much to bear. I want to keep living but I'm also fully aware that certain aspects about me are simply incompatible with a full, long life. I do appreciate the worry though.

 

[hopelesswanderer]

Sorry it didn't work out for you, my friend. Nicotine is nasty work - at least chewing the gum I know is disgusting so I can't imagine drinking a glass of pure nicotine. If you need any help with SN source a quick search on this forum for DMC should lead you down the right path.

 

[hematomatema]

Sorry it didn't work out for you, my friend. Nicotine is nasty work - at least chewing the gum I know is disgusting so I can't imagine drinking a glass of pure nicotine. If you need any help with SN source a quick search on this forum for DMC should lead you down the right path.

Think I've found it, just trying to verify with another user that I'm on the right site (wasn't hard to find at all lol.) If you know the particular site could I DM you to make sure I'm on the right one?