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- Feb 29, 2024
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Was opting to jump but couldn't find a good spot, so I've been looking at alternative measures and found some studies on nicotine poisoning, particularly from vape juices and whatever other shit contains nicotine.
FWIW it seems really cheap and easy to access for basically anyone. The LD50 is probably at least >500mg (many sources list it as being lower - whether or not this is just some common misconception or if it's intentionally misleading to deter successful suicides, who knows) and I think it lies within or around the range of 1g, IIRC(?) but from what I've read, a far more reliable amount would be 2-4g. Nicotine doesn't have to be ingested either - can be absorbed through skin although I imagine this is far more costly and less efficient, but it doesn't require as much active effort or willpower as the ingestion, let alone more physical methods like hanging or jumping.
It's not particularly hard to find 20mg/ml 10ml solutions, at least from what I can tell, unless I'm misunderstanding it. Found this which I assume contains 200mg nicotine total (unless it means 2mg/ml, it's a little nebulous) and it's only like £2. Even if I am misinterpreting it and it really means 2mg/ml, that's £100 for 1g of nicotine to ingest for CTB - that's actually not too bad for a medication-style method, even if the actual process isn't exactly pretty.
As for the studies, I found this which mentioned a case of a girl who consumed ~2.1g of nicotine, went into arrest, had to have CPR done on her, and was otherwise in a very poor condition. Doesn't look like she would have survived had paramedics not made it to her. Same study also shows a guy who drank what I would have to assume was around 1-2g (but it doesn't really give many details and I can't find the original products mentioned) who also survived but had lost his pulse. Given the lack of definitive volume of solution ingested (just the mention of what products were used), I have to assume it wasn't the entire batch for whatever reason, which makes this method seem even more promising - the guy went through only most of the nic and not all and he still went into cardiac arrest.
This study, which I can't read (fuck paywalls), goes over the death of a woman who ingested 3g (making the 2-4g point seem far more accurate), was pulseless, had brain damage, the usual.
The 2-4g range might also be literal overkill as well depending on the age range (true for seemingly for very young and very old people) - this study mentions a man going into asystole with 600mg of nicotine ingested, far below the range mentioned (potentially lending credence to the lower ranges provided by most sources, although I don't entirely trust them as it is.)
And those were just the mentions of methods revolving around vape juices and whatever. There are other methods that can be employed as well that might end up being slightly cheaper and yet more effective/without the nasty fucking taste of vape juice in your mouth. Here is a study mentioning someone who attempted suicide after extracting nicotine from tobacco in water (seemingly incredibly easy, to be honest.)
There are a slew of other reports that mention these methods (particularly liquid nicotine ingestion, but there are still quite a few on the whole extraction-from-tobacco strat) but they all seem to be locked behind paywalls. Definitely not difficult to find them.
Thought I would post a thread on this since there really doesn't seem to be many mentions of it online, and I can't lie, it's looking like a solid method given the current lack of any good methods that don't require overcoming SI. Anyone who's tried this method or knows any more about it, it would be really interesting to hear what it's like, does it work, pain experienced during it, how long it takes to kick in, etc.
FWIW it seems really cheap and easy to access for basically anyone. The LD50 is probably at least >500mg (many sources list it as being lower - whether or not this is just some common misconception or if it's intentionally misleading to deter successful suicides, who knows) and I think it lies within or around the range of 1g, IIRC(?) but from what I've read, a far more reliable amount would be 2-4g. Nicotine doesn't have to be ingested either - can be absorbed through skin although I imagine this is far more costly and less efficient, but it doesn't require as much active effort or willpower as the ingestion, let alone more physical methods like hanging or jumping.
It's not particularly hard to find 20mg/ml 10ml solutions, at least from what I can tell, unless I'm misunderstanding it. Found this which I assume contains 200mg nicotine total (unless it means 2mg/ml, it's a little nebulous) and it's only like £2. Even if I am misinterpreting it and it really means 2mg/ml, that's £100 for 1g of nicotine to ingest for CTB - that's actually not too bad for a medication-style method, even if the actual process isn't exactly pretty.
As for the studies, I found this which mentioned a case of a girl who consumed ~2.1g of nicotine, went into arrest, had to have CPR done on her, and was otherwise in a very poor condition. Doesn't look like she would have survived had paramedics not made it to her. Same study also shows a guy who drank what I would have to assume was around 1-2g (but it doesn't really give many details and I can't find the original products mentioned) who also survived but had lost his pulse. Given the lack of definitive volume of solution ingested (just the mention of what products were used), I have to assume it wasn't the entire batch for whatever reason, which makes this method seem even more promising - the guy went through only most of the nic and not all and he still went into cardiac arrest.
This study, which I can't read (fuck paywalls), goes over the death of a woman who ingested 3g (making the 2-4g point seem far more accurate), was pulseless, had brain damage, the usual.
The 2-4g range might also be literal overkill as well depending on the age range (true for seemingly for very young and very old people) - this study mentions a man going into asystole with 600mg of nicotine ingested, far below the range mentioned (potentially lending credence to the lower ranges provided by most sources, although I don't entirely trust them as it is.)
And those were just the mentions of methods revolving around vape juices and whatever. There are other methods that can be employed as well that might end up being slightly cheaper and yet more effective/without the nasty fucking taste of vape juice in your mouth. Here is a study mentioning someone who attempted suicide after extracting nicotine from tobacco in water (seemingly incredibly easy, to be honest.)
There are a slew of other reports that mention these methods (particularly liquid nicotine ingestion, but there are still quite a few on the whole extraction-from-tobacco strat) but they all seem to be locked behind paywalls. Definitely not difficult to find them.
Thought I would post a thread on this since there really doesn't seem to be many mentions of it online, and I can't lie, it's looking like a solid method given the current lack of any good methods that don't require overcoming SI. Anyone who's tried this method or knows any more about it, it would be really interesting to hear what it's like, does it work, pain experienced during it, how long it takes to kick in, etc.
