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pyx

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Jun 5, 2024
618
it's hell. something you can't control. seeking moments of clarity via stimulants. constant. can't think, born a retard. like charlie from flowers of algernon. i don't have the energy to learn. dysgenic traits should be selectively eliminated from the gene pool, or else parents should take care to properly raise their kids instead of giving them iPads in their critical period and fucking right off to whatever suburban hedonic bliss they can fathom. i honestly cant see the point of being alive if you are born unintellignet, and i am not saying this as some pick-me woe-to-me fucking bullshit, and anyone who fucking says "well you sound intelligent" really does not understand the issue at hand, and probably is the type to be easily impressed by the trickery of a legerdemainist. i know because i am the only one aware of my limitations, and these limitations, which are imposed upo nme via the structure of education and testing, are utterly incompatible with real-world problem solving. you are your production-value in this world, and if not then you can choose to think of yourself as some enlightened philosopher or artist or whatever fuckall luftmensch bullshit you desire; but if you want to be an adequately integrated person, you necessarily must think practically within the constraints of the social order: the rules of the game

i did horribly in school, and in my youth i had no natural inclination towards learning. a desire to better myself only arose out of an insecurity which plagued me throughout highschool; i was constantly embittered with those individuals who seemed to function superoptimally, balancing out all aspects of their life, both academically and socially, in order to set themselves up for stable and fulfilling futures. meanwhile, i did not study once in highschool, so naturally i only scraped by with the minimum required for passing, which was unconventionally low as i attended a second-rate public school. and the forms of prejudice and social incursion which battered my self-esteem derived from these innate lack of diligence; even those who bullied me were more accomplished. the idea that the intellect gives rise to empathic qualities in people is such a cope. these fucking inveterate cunts sought to torment me whilst boasting and proliferating their academic/social integrity, rubbing it in like a caustic burn. fucking deplorable

and i was like a mindless animal during these periods, unable to conjure up any articulate thought as to why this was happening to me, with only a deeply preponderant sensation, mainly that "life is unfair, people are cruel. they are privileged, and don't know true pain." this is why the claim that other people experience and go through their own assortment of pain is a copout to me. when i entered year 10, i started to become aware of these feelings in me. i could ruminate for hours, only to arrive at something banal and concillatory, rather than any constructive means of progressing from this antipathy. in fact, i've still yet to come to terms with it. it still boils my blood to think that there are those who could act with such cruelty and indifference. this is why i am skeptical of people who declaim moral superiority over intellectual positions. you don't know what it means to be morally consistent. no one is. you like to feed your vapid ego through these virtue-signaling surgically ablative little howlers. but thats not important

these very people go on to claim that all are born equal. seems like a rather judical way of regulating undesirables who don't share the appeal of social and academic status, conflated with lazy and indigent beggars who, through their own inhibitions, lack the ability to pursue their own goals; those who never become acclimated to the conditions of the bourgeois rat-race and cast aside as useless, disgusting, filthy cretins who deserve to fall through the cracks and be met with their apathy. i don't owe anything to you people. a contradiction of the liberal tendency towards depoliticization, which in this case would require formal affirmation of the differences in people in order to provide support networks, which obviously seems to get downplayed and undermined by certain libtards

in yr11-12 i used to skip class a lot. i dreaded coming to school, even if i had a remote social circle that i could interact with; i wanted nothing to do with academia. i was made to feel like a retard throughout my entire education. i envied those who had parents willing to cater to their intellectual needs, who raised them to be intelligent; and i believed this because the alternative possibility that i was simply born unintelligent would have given me more than sufficient reason for suicide. and to this day i still cope by convincing myself that intelligence needn't necessarily be genetic, that it can be arbitrarily constructed through environmental conditioning. it creates a more palatable theory, but still one that pits me in a position wherein my own shortcomings are now static. and it seems an utter copout to claim 'muh neuroplasticity' when i'm simply referring to the most static, unchanging of analytic faculties.

i continue to cope, saying that i will go to uni some day. that i will some day be the person i want to be, not the one i was born as. but this is all a fucking lie. and im tired of coping libtards who want their own security by denying my struggles. im tired of living. its all a fucking rat race. im not some dumb fuck who just declaims 'muh capitalism' when my own problems consist purely in a genetic failure to adapt to my circumstances. yes, my value is concentrated within a capitalistic mechanism of social regulation, but what the fuck else could it be? i could cope and say that humans are meritocratic vain fuckups whose idea of egalitarianism is too abstract to ever be implemented in a way detached from our biological imperatives, since it requires every blue-collar worker to be as intellectually capable of affirming something as abstract as equality as the enlightened value theorist. whatever

anyway, most of this won't make sense, as i don't think when i type. i cant think. ive never been able to think, and still, in my worst moments, lack the capacity to do, say, basic arithmetic. actually, embarrassing but true story is that i realized that i was retarded when, a couple of months after highschool, i was watching a video on Jean Piaget where he was testing children at different ages for their ability to perform basic arithmetic through spatial reasoning, i think. long story short, i realized at that time that i couldn't fucking multiply, that i was retarded. my god. what a revelation that was. how do you justify that? you see, it doesn't matter. everyone likes parrotting their problems as noble and worthy of some degree of sympathy, and, indeed, this is seen in the case of the tortured artist, which is met with so much praise. yet those who are intellectually disabled to the point of being utterly dysgenic are cast aside as fucking pitiful and worthless, since most people can't comprehend these people; and indeed, people are so up their own asses that they simply think "glad that isn't me, despite my problems" since being unintelligent is the most worthless of attributes. uggos with high iq are quicker to admit that they are ugly than unintelligent good looking people are to admit that they are dumb fucks. always the justification of 'street-smarts' (even i lack that, so maybe they are onto something)

anyway, i think im going to leave this forum soon. hasnt done anything for me. only increased my antipathy. i'll try hanging soon enough again, as my first attempt failed because it was clear back then that i didnt want to die. i did it too close to the foot of my bed, and when i was suspended i used it as support. but now that i've come to fully accept that retarded dumbcunts should not exist, i will be more motivated in my death. im just fucking tired of all the rabble and chicanery from the morally righteous. i am living proof that not all people are equal, which is both reflected in my lack of intelligence and lack of meaningful outcomes in my life, whether that be financial or social/ im done
 
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rhiino

rhiino

Arcanist
May 13, 2020
486
I can relate somehow. My genes are shit as well. While I am quite intelligent, this is useless as my body is utter crap and detoriating rapidly, including every other function of my brain.
I also made the experience that other people don't quite grasp ones problems fully, no matter how much you explain it to them. They see their own problems, but yours are minor to them; just because they have not experienced them.

And while I do not want to say what you mentioned (»you sound intelligent«), your vocabulary is quite broad and eloquent. Maybe you have problems with learning? This is the case with my brother. He is quite intelligent, but has quite the problem with learning. I see similarities here.

Edit: Actually I forgot to mention, that I literally wish I would be less intelligent and I would trade off every bit of intelligence for a healthy body. One positive trait is not enough to be happy and it can be too much as well.
 
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EmptyCurtainCall

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Oct 11, 2024
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i'm ridiculously unintelligent and sometimes it bothers , but , worrying about being smart is for smart people .
 
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pyx

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Jun 5, 2024
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And while I do not want to say what you mentioned (»you sound intelligent«), your vocabulary is quite broad and eloquent. Maybe you have problems with learning? This is the case with my brother. He is quite intelligent, but has quite the problem with learning. I see similarities here.
yea i was really high when i wrote this post so i was likely compensating unconsciously through peddling verbosity. i can see that it sort of detracted from what i was saying, so it's very embarrassing for me to reread honestly

i don't have any reference for how well i would do academically now, but from experience i've often needed stimulants in order to stay focused enough to process what i am learning. might be related to willpower, but i know for certain that my mathematical pursuits bottomed out in the long run, leaving me feeling more envious of those naturally inclined toward analytic thinking. i think that managing the cognitive workload of studying is a gift in it of itself. the people that i have come to know throughout my life who i consider intelligent have always been very similar: able to adapt quite easily, know what is practically utile for them, demonstrating precocity beyond what i ever could hope to achieve

tbf there are users on here with a much more nuanced vocab. i'm more of a filthy maximalist when it comes to writing lol

i'm ridiculously unintelligent and sometimes it bothers , but , worrying about being smart is for smart people .
i'm smart enough to understand how limited i am
 
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Gustav Hartmann

Gustav Hartmann

Warlock
Aug 28, 2021
747
Your writing reminds me of a paper I recently read, it reflected upon "evolutionary mechanisms underlying human suicide". The theory is, that a population has I benefit if people who are a burden to suciety kill themselfes. This is definitively true for old people. If young people commit suicide because they feel worthless, they should do it after reproduction, otherwise the genetic disposition for an altruistic suicide would die out.

Another point is, that unintelligent people don´t kill themselfes. Your writing sounds definitively intelligent, so you would probably succeed.
 
Intoxicated

Intoxicated

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Nov 16, 2023
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If young people commit suicide because they feel worthless, they should do it after reproduction, otherwise the genetic disposition for an altruistic suicide would die out.
Such a reasoning appears to be wrong, since the genes responsible for "altruistic" behavior could be carried by "worthy" siblings as well while suvivability and the odds of successful reproduction of the dinasty as a whole could benefit from those genes.
 
Gustav Hartmann

Gustav Hartmann

Warlock
Aug 28, 2021
747
Such a reasoning appears to be wrong, since the genes responsible for "altruistic" behavior could be carried by "worthy" siblings as well while suvivability and the odds of successful reproduction of the dinasty as a whole could benefit from those genes.
Altruistic behavior and altruistic suicide differ so much that probably diferent gene combinations are responsible.
 
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Nov 16, 2023
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Altruistic behavior and altruistic suicide differ so much that probably diferent gene combinations are responsible.
In either case, I doubt that evolution went that far at all )) Frustration leading to suicide looks like rather a glitch than a feature giving a noticeable advantage in natural selection.
 
IkaXo

IkaXo

on burnt, gauzed wings
Jul 30, 2024
11
I can relate in many ways. I'm not smart enough for my age and lack the intelligence and audacity to move from my current situation, I can only barely follow orders. I used to avoid forums like this or any kind because I would just get envy of other people achievements, now I don't care that much. I come to the idea that there's people who can and people who don't, and I'm definitely not part of the winning team. Even then I don't hate the world, I care about others as if they were ever going to look back at me.
 
EvisceratedJester

EvisceratedJester

|| What Else Could I Be But a Jester ||
Oct 21, 2023
3,737
When I was younger, I remember trying to work hard in hopes of becoming smarter and that obviously didn't work out. I was trying to work hard to eliminate an innate aspect of myself. At this point, I'd say just embrace your stupidity. If uou are going to he dumb then you may as well be the dumbest bitch out there. That's what I'm trying to do anyway.
 
rhiino

rhiino

Arcanist
May 13, 2020
486
i think that managing the cognitive workload of studying is a gift in it of itself.
It is. Some people have it, some don't. To a degree you can learn to learn better. There is material out there how to do it, if you are interested.

i'm smart enough to understand how limited i am
Really dumb people mostly think they are clever.

I'd say just embrace your stupidity. If uou are going to he dumb then you may as well be the dumbest bitch out there. That's what I'm trying to do anyway.
Reminds me of my brother, who wants to be dumb as well and is proud of it. He has problem learning, but is quite eloquent and intelligent in his core. OP reminds me a bit of him as well.
 
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mars_b4rz

Member
Mar 2, 2023
64
Intelligence isn't the only thing valued by society. I would give almost anything to be smarter, but intelligence is static so there's no point getting hung up over it.

You have to learn to live with what it is. There are 8 billion people in the world and 4 billion of them being dumber than the average person yet they make their way through life ok.

Also don't just assume you're a complete doormat either. A lot of the time you limit yourself mentally first before you reach any kind of intelligence barrier. It's called self sabotage and it's in my opinion more dangerous than trying beyond your mental limit.

It's a hard pill to swallow but once you swallow it and acceptance washes over you, only then do you free yourself from your own mind.

For some context, I graduated school with decent marks then I went to a prestigious university to study computer science. Up until this point I thought I was pretty smart.

Then first year university maths humbled me and I spent the rest of my time there trying my best not to look like the dumber guy in the room. It was a terrible feeling and I knew I didn't belong

The people here are a different kind of smart. They were able to pick things up much quicker than me and not just that but they could do what I could do but much faster and to a higher quality.

In the end I just wasn't cut out for it. And There's no shame in that either, but the school system deceived me. They pitched the notion that anyone is capable of doing anything and I fell for it.

Instead, assess your physical/mental limits and with that in mind, work to forge a life that you want without needless comparison to others. And college isn't meant for everyone. You should have a genuine passion or keen interest in anything you want to consider studying at a tertiary level otherwise you'll spend 4 more of your life in a hell scape.

Free yourself from society. Free yourself from your mind.
 
nattys5thtoenail

nattys5thtoenail

goofball
Oct 6, 2024
185
Hey I can relate, I have ADHD + an SLD and suspected autism which I've decided not to get diagnosed for since I'm already a freshman in college and there's no use if I can function like a "normal" person. It fucking sucks, I hate being stupid. No one respects you and I'm so sorry. It feels even worse because I'm a girl with ADHD and when you go on Reddit to see if people relate all there really is to see are gifted people who didn't realize they had ADHD until they were over the age of 25…fun!

But my advice is forget intelligence and opt for becoming knowledgeable. Intelligence is how you problem solve and how quick you learn things, knowledge is working with things you already know. You may not have a high IQ but that doesn't make you "stupid". You only stop learning if you turn your brain off. It's okay to not be the smartest person in the room, people would much rather prefer to be around people who are eager to learn instead of people who have a large sense of intellectual superiority and only want to talk about themselves and what they're thinking about.

It's why people who make their personality on being gifted end up burning out, yes the ego trip is nice but it feels empty, already knowing everything and being the one to guide people. What is the point of life if you know everything? Life is a journey where you're constantly learning. However yes being on the other side of the spectrum does have a lot of downsides, but you CAN improve if you invest in yourself! We don't know how many intellectuals are faking it and in this lifetime we never truly will.

I know that this is a suicide site and you have most likely given up, and if that is what your choice is I respect that. But I'm just giving you another perspective you may not have considered.
 
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