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HopingOnaMiracle

HopingOnaMiracle

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Ive been depressed for 1.5 years now and before that I had only depressive periods. Now it's all day suffering everyday.

I tried therapy for 3+ years, 2 hospitalisations, different kinds of meds, rTMS, ketamine. The result: FEELING EVEN WORSE. I fucking hate it. Why can't I just recover. Even if I recovered for 5% I'd have the idea I'm recovering. But no the depression has only gotten worse. The days are tougher to get through.

I am seriously driven into suicidal ideation. If life can't give me peace ... Well you know.

Why can't it just get better. Why am I forced to live like this. I don't even want to live anymore. I wish I was dead and got some goddamn peace.
 
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Why can't it just get better. Why am I forced to live like this. I don't even want to live anymore. I wish I was dead and got some goddamn peace.
For people who haven't had depression and similar mental health problems, it's hard to understand that there's a difference between shutting down and truly getting rest. Just fighting as long as you have deserves a lot of credit, so please take the time to acknowledge that even though you haven't recovered you've done a great job trying.
 
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For people who haven't had depression and similar mental health problems, it's hard to understand that there's a difference between shutting down and truly getting rest. Just fighting as long as you have deserves a lot of credit, so please take the time to acknowledge that even though you haven't recovered you've done a great job trying.
Hey thanks for the response.
I done a decent job surviving. I want to live again. I want my life back. Depression took everything from me. Most days im at home alone. Parents cook for me since I can't do it anymore. They've done other chores for me too. I'm just too tired. I can't go on like this any longer...
 
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Arahant

Arahant

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Been there.
I made a long ass list, with suicide at the very end.
Depression would die, or I would kamikaze into it.

You have tried everything that you currently know of.

What finally moved the needle for me was metabolic therapy; ketogenic elimination diet (the carnivore diet).

There is serious scientific evidence mounting for the efficacy of this approach.
in short, when they brain is not polluted by allergens and has ample energy, mental diseases fuck right off.
The books Brain Energy and Change your diet; change your mind describe in deep detail how this works.
Many personal stories are on youtube. Brett Lloyd in particular had the meanest depression I have ever heard of for 40 damned years, and he reversed it completely.

Dear OP, try ONE last thing. Just one more thing. I will answer you any questions I can, coach you if you request.
You don't deserve to suffer depression.
You deserve to thrive, and a fair chance at living a full life.

May everyone be free of depression.
 
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Ive been depressed for 1.5 years now and before that I had only depressive periods. Now it's all day suffering everyday.

I tried therapy for 3+ years, 2 hospitalisations, different kinds of meds, rTMS, ketamine. The result: FEELING EVEN WORSE. I fucking hate it. Why can't I just recover. Even if I recovered for 5% I'd have the idea I'm recovering. But no the depression has only gotten worse. The days are tougher to get through.

I am seriously driven into suicidal ideation. If life can't give me peace ... Well you know.

Why can't it just get better. Why am I forced to live like this. I don't even want to live anymore. I wish I was dead and got some goddamn peace.
I feel exactly the same. I've tried so many different things. Nothing work. I can't feel like this for another week...I just can't. I don't want to go necessarily, but I can't keep going with this pain. I just wish someone could fix my brain.
 
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I feel exactly the same. I've tried so many different things. Nothing work. I can't feel like this for another week...I just can't. I don't want to go necessarily, but I can't keep going with this pain. I just wish someone could fix my brain.
I feel exactly the same way. I can't deal with this shit any longer. I don't want to ctb but want to recover. Follow my dreams again. Do useful and grateful work. Have fun times with family and friends.

But all I get is more pain and suffering. I don't want to go but my feelings aren't getting any better. It's like someone is torturing me into killing myself. What's the point of living if all I get is pain??

ECT is my last straw and I have to survive for 2 more months to even get conversation about it.
 
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Marine

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Ive been depressed for 1.5 years now and before that I had only depressive periods. Now it's all day suffering everyday.

I tried therapy for 3+ years, 2 hospitalisations, different kinds of meds, rTMS, ketamine. The result: FEELING EVEN WORSE. I fucking hate it. Why can't I just recover. Even if I recovered for 5% I'd have the idea I'm recovering. But no the depression has only gotten worse. The days are tougher to get through.

I am seriously driven into suicidal ideation. If life can't give me peace ... Well you know.

Why can't it just get better. Why am I forced to live like this. I don't even want to live anymore. I wish I was dead and got some goddamn peace.
As far as I know therapy, hospitalizations and meds do make things worse and don't help the vast majority of people because they're an insane system out of touch with the truth of suffering (and created for other purposes).

Depression, like any form of suffering indicates that an essential need (or multiple) is unmet. Therefore fixing it requires figuring out what need is unmet and finding a way to meet it and remove all obstacles to meeting it. You can only truly fix anything by identifying and resolving the cause, which therapy etc do not address more often than not. Sometimes that cause is more hidden if it's you being out of alignment with your true nature, existence, the truth of the world or morality for instance.

If you can adopting a clean plant based natural and organic diet (and filtering your water) can help tremendously with clarity, mood and energy. Sometimes supplements or other methods of elimination of toxins is also necessary since they can keep you stuck. If you struggle don't be hard on yourself, I'm still stuck in a horrible ED so I know what it's like but I try to make incremental progress as much as possible.

Energy balancing disciplines like Tai Chi and Qi Gong can help reconnect you back to your body, it's also helpful to find your truth. So is going out in nature and sometimes forcing yourself to go to a pleasant café / bar and just enjoy your drink, the people there, reading maybe, being aware of your surroundings and taking some nice time for yourself doing something that at least soothes you even if everything is still wrong. I've also found learning important and useful philosophical and psychological information helpful personally.

Otherwise I would recommend meditation, there are some fun guided ones on YouTube, and most importantly connection, doing activities where you can interact with other people and form strong bonds is the most healing and helpful thing in general. The only way I've ever seen anyone heal is through a loving connection, whether they realize it or not, and usually that's what allows them to reconnect with themselves.

I know it can be very tricky because of the many traumatic barriers and blockages that often keep us from what we need, I'm still looking for what can destroy them all, but I definitely felt much better, clearer and truer to myself when I understood the scam that psychiatry (not psychology) was, and after leaving it behind for good, so I hope both of us can find it.
 
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Thank you for such a long response. Some things I already do, meditation and mindfulness practices. Those can make me feel a little less terrible. I do have loving connections with good friends. One of the few things that help me are doing stuff with friends. Going to a concert, watch a movie or drinking alcohol.

I absolutely don't know what my unmet needs are and neither do my therapists. Conversations with them go nowhere anymore. I will talk about them about my suicidality but not about preparations. Medications haven't done shit to help me so maybe you're right in that psychiatry is a scam. Only benzo's work and I can't even count on them since I'm addicted to lorazepam (take 1.5 of them every morning).
 
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Thank you for such a long response. Some things I already do, meditation and mindfulness practices. Those can make me feel a little less terrible. I do have loving connections with good friends. One of the few things that help me are doing stuff with friends. Going to a concert, watch a movie or drinking alcohol.

I absolutely don't know what my unmet needs are and neither do my therapists. Conversations with them go nowhere anymore. I will talk about them about my suicidality but not about preparations. Medications haven't done shit to help me so maybe you're right in that psychiatry is a scam. Only benzo's work and I can't even count on them since I'm addicted to lorazepam (take 1.5 of them every morning).
You're welcome.

Benzos (like any psychiatric med) are extremely toxic and personally I had a horrible experience being completely dependant on them that eventually stopped working before my last attempt and it was very hard to get rid of them so I would recommend more natural options like essential oils if possible (outside of CTB), obviously it's up to you, I know it can be very difficult to do without them.

If you imagine your life going well, what would it be like ?
 
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You're welcome.

Benzos (like any psychiatric med) are extremely toxic and personally I had a horrible experience being completely dependant on them that eventually stopped working before my last attempt and it was very hard to get rid of them so I would recommend more natural options like essential oils if possible (outside of CTB), obviously it's up to you, I know it can be very difficult to do without them.

If you imagine your life going well, what would it be like ?
If my life was going well I wouldn't have this pain all day. I would be able to work, clean my house, do chores and see people more often. I would get my drivers license and go back on dating apps to find a girlfriend. All this is impossible now.

I can't take any benzo's since I'm addicted to lorazepam...
 
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If my life was going well I wouldn't have this pain all day. I would be able to work, clean my house, do chores and see people more often. I would get my drivers license and go back on dating apps to find a girlfriend. All this is impossible now.

I can't take any benzo's since I'm addicted to lorazepam...
Do you have any inkling as to where this pain came from when it started ?
Why do you think you can't go on dating apps ?
 
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Do you have any inkling as to where this pain came from when it started ?
Why do you think you can't go on dating apps ?
The pain just came, stayed, became worse and worse. I have no idea why. It just came and destroyed everything I have.
Can't go on dating apps. I have nothing to give a woman now. I am a depressed wreck. When I'm cured I'll be able to.
But I'm still very very very ill
 
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The pain just came, stayed, became worse and worse. I have no idea why. It just came and destroyed everything I have.
Can't go on dating apps. I have nothing to give a woman now. I am a depressed wreck. When I'm cured I'll be able to.
But I'm still very very very ill
Is it physical pain, psychological pain ?

I personally think people suffering have just as much richness to offer and only need support and love to reclaim themselves and oftentimes it's the only way out for them, but I guess it depends on the case.

Do you have good friends that could help you for starters maybe ?

Now one thing I've learned is that even severe physical and psychological pain, especially sudden, can be caused by lifestyle issues, especially given the incredible amount of toxicity in our "food" (mostly processed, GMO and junk food bur also hidden chemicals heavy metals etc almost everywhere), "medicine and vaccines", water, air, information, education, work and relationship styles, which is why I first suggested to try and clean up those to identify the cause. Usually after some time and usually some detox happening (sometimes requiring external help to purge the toxins) once even just the gut is free of excess toxins and fed healthy nutritious food and water incredible changes can occur. Same with consuming different types of media and information.

Going to a competent naturopath could potentially help figure out what is going on. It's always good to eliminate physical causes first.

It can also be linked to trauma, repressed suffering about a bad work or relationship situation, loss, being surrounded by people we don't truly feel connected to and can't really be fully ourselves with / don't truly care, intake of negative / dark information and entertainment, not feeling like we truly are contributing to something good for humanity and self, feeling like we can't express ourselves like we would want to because of social pressure or self limiting beliefs, crisis related to a certain age / physical or life change etc.
 
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Is it physical pain, psychological pain ?

I personally think people suffering have just as much richness to offer and only need support and love to reclaim themselves and oftentimes it's the only way out for them, but I guess it depends on the case.

Do you have good friends that could help you for starters maybe ?

Now one thing I've learned is that even severe physical and psychological pain, especially sudden, can be caused by lifestyle issues, especially given the incredible amount of toxicity in our "food" (mostly processed, GMO and junk food bur also hidden chemicals heavy metals etc almost everywhere), "medicine and vaccines", water, air, information, education, work and relationship styles, which is why I first suggested to try and clean up those to identify the cause. Usually after some time and usually some detox happening (sometimes requiring external help to purge the toxins) once even just the gut is free of excess toxins and fed healthy nutritious food and water incredible changes can occur. Same with consuming different types of media and information.

Going to a competent naturopath could potentially help figure out what is going on. It's always good to eliminate physical causes first.

It can also be linked to trauma, repressed suffering about a bad work or relationship situation, loss, being surrounded by people we don't truly feel connected to and can't really be fully ourselves with / don't truly care, intake of negative / dark information and entertainment, not feeling like we truly are contributing to something good for humanity and self, feeling like we can't express ourselves like we would want to because of social pressure or self limiting beliefs, crisis related to a certain age / physical or life change etc.

It's psychological pain. I can't deal with it much longer. I eat healthy since my mom does most of the cooking because I can't even do tasks like that in my condition.

My pain is pushing me towards ctb. . . I can't deal with it any longer. It's just too much.

I don't think I have a suppressed trauma.
I feel I contribute nothing to society and I wish I was.
 
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It's psychological pain. I can't deal with it much longer. I eat healthy since my mom does most of the cooking because I can't even do tasks like that in my condition.

My pain is pushing me towards ctb. . . I can't deal with it any longer. It's just too much.

I don't think I have a suppressed trauma.
I feel I contribute nothing to society and I wish I was.
What does it feel like exactly ?

Have you tried taking some time for yourself just to feel better without guilt or other consideration, like a vacation from regular life and especially from your pain in a way, and making it your primary focus to only do things that bring you relief for instance ? Even if it means playing video games, matching videos / movies or going out and having a nice time at a café you like, board game bar or other fun place all day so long as that brings you relief.
 
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What does it feel like exactly ?

Have you tried taking some time for yourself just to feel better without guilt or other consideration, like a vacation from regular life and especially from your pain in a way, and making it your primary focus to only do things that bring you relief for instance ? Even if it means playing video games, matching videos / movies or going out and having a nice time at a café you like, board game bar or other fun place all day so long as that brings you relief.
How does it feel... Is very hard to explain
Extreme anxiety. Like there is something bad going on that needs immediate fixing. Not able to think positive or constructive. Suicidal ideation. Constant fear of the worst.

Despite all this shit I still do fun things with friends. Like I had dinner in a restaurant and saw a movie in the theatre today. Sometimes its just drinking beer in the pub or watch movie at home. Or going to a dance party. Big asterix here is that those are usually in the evening, when I feel less terrible usually plus alcohol and drugs give relief. So I do fun stuff usually in the weekends.
 
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etherealgoddess

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Ive been depressed for 1.5 years now and before that I had only depressive periods. Now it's all day suffering everyday.

I tried therapy for 3+ years, 2 hospitalisations, different kinds of meds, rTMS, ketamine. The result: FEELING EVEN WORSE. I fucking hate it. Why can't I just recover. Even if I recovered for 5% I'd have the idea I'm recovering. But no the depression has only gotten worse. The days are tougher to get through.

I am seriously driven into suicidal ideation. If life can't give me peace ... Well you know.

Why can't it just get better. Why am I forced to live like this. I don't even want to live anymore. I wish I was dead and got some goddamn peace.
Herbal meds!! Try it out. I've been taking them. Saffron and rosemary tablets every day. Make sure to research. I'm not a medical professional, but it's been working well for me. I'm not perfect, but it's clearly way better. I also do not sell them. You can find them on Amazon.

Try to find other solutions. There is something out there. This fucking sucks because I've been there.
 
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Marine

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How does it feel... Is very hard to explain
Extreme anxiety. Like there is something bad going on that needs immediate fixing. Not able to think positive or constructive. Suicidal ideation. Constant fear of the worst.

Despite all this shit I still do fun things with friends. Like I had dinner in a restaurant and saw a movie in the theatre today. Sometimes its just drinking beer in the pub or watch movie at home. Or going to a dance party. Big asterix here is that those are usually in the evening, when I feel less terrible usually plus alcohol and drugs give relief. So I do fun stuff usually in the weekends.
Ok. Those symptoms usually indicate either trauma (which can be repressed with traumatic amnesia like in SRA cases which I hope is not your case, or unrecognized which often happens in child abuse as well for instance), great amounts of stress / pressure, existential crisis, or a massive health imbalance, possibly of the nervous system.

Whenever I feel panicky I do stuff that makes me feel grounded, sometimes I even touch the wood of the table I'm sitting at and observe my surroundings for that purpose because it calms my nervous system. It works best for me to go outside to a safe place and engage with people either in there or online on my phone as much as possible, but also just to chill and enjoy the moment, playing games and doing fun activities helps a lot.

Other times and when I'm stuck inside because of my condition I guess I only have videos / series to watch, podcasts to listen to, books to read, games to play and some chores to do, but engaging with people when I manage to find someone to talk to is what makes the most sense in my situation because social bonds are what I lack. Now it doesn't make sense that none of my efforts go anywhere but that's something else. Stretching and doing light movements can help too.

I also talk to myself internally to try and reassure myself, sit myself down or go for a walk, listen to calming music which often shifts the energy well, I've also successfully used essential oils during panic attacks. Usually when I'm completely overwhelmed I either focus on something else entirely (I watch something for instance) or repeat mantras of my invention that relate to improving my situation, sometimes I also "nurse myself" internally or externally and tell myself like to a baby / hospitalized patient "we're going to do this helpful thing now, it's gonna be ok, if it's not enough we're gonna do this other thing", of course it's no panacea but it prevents me from getting a stroke or heart attack in that moment I guess.

When you can be creative in some way I think it's also helpful. Gathering helpful information about your problem can also be soothing. If you have animals they can be a good support.

But ultimately finding the cause and a way to remedy it is necessary... It requires exploration without stressing yourself too much all at once.
Hasn't meditation helped you in any way figuring out what felt wrong ? Or talking to someone else about your situation ?

It's funny how you feel better in the evening when it's usually the opposite for me. It's good that you have friends at least.
 

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