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I don't know if anything will come of this, nor will I be able to articulate myself properly. I've recently had thoughts pertaining to the manner of strengthening relationships, contributing to society and the requirements for being able to do both. Now, I should like to preface saying that I am in no measure a good analyst for the inner workings of the mind; since my experience is limited, I will naturally be inclined to produce a more theoretical explication which goes in line with my dislike of particularism, which is to say that I'd like to define the concept of personality through the general terms which are clearest to me. This can be seen as a brash formalism, but no matter.

My thesis is this: personality is deterministic. Personality is a highly complex thing, which would normally make our inquiry far too general to ever be conducive to any substantive procedure. In light of this, I propose to limit the scope of our inquiry to a particular domain of discourse, that of how we apply reference. My definition is this: personality consist of a set of observable preferences of how an individual may act in a given situation, according to the attribution of these preferences by independent observers to individuals exposed to non-trivial or trivial outcomes.

Now, the locus of this definition consists in a substantive commitment to a particular course of action, dependent upon the preferences of the individual. But there is a certain ambiguity in this, for these attributes, by our definition, must be assigned; for if we do not assign them, we can assume that the features are either independent of the scenario or inarticulable. The requirement that we have independent observers to root our reference in something material complicates things.

For one, we now have to account for the manner in which we tie articulable descriptions to the ephemeral realms of experience. For instance, to witness someone becoming infuriated with something arbitrary may be pinned down as an "ill-tempered" or "bellicose" attitude, according as the reaction is taken to be improportionate to the impetus. The difference here is the weight in which the action holds in this scenario, as may be seen in cultural miscommunication, with certain practices common to the one being absurd to the other. This in itself could be articulated in the other culture as some quintessentially "Western" attribute, and thus characteristic of a difference of habit; this can be seen by some as an eccentricity, which itself manifests as an attribute.

Now, we should not neglect that our definition lacks in generality. Of course there are scenarios in which outcomes are unimportant, such as when we identify the preferences of a speaker in conversation, or even prejudge the preferences of another by their appearance. I should like to answer that my intent is to divorce aesthetics from personality and, moreover, tie it to something more fundamental about social integration, in particular the desiderata of traits which are esteemed in society; this ties in to my investigation of wants, which has been covered in another thread of mine.

The determinism of personality is just the claim that we cannot choose which attributes are assigned to us, or at least that our role in trying to conform to such behaviours is arbitrary, and determined by a greater number of things. The law of indeterminacy states that the attributes we assign through our interpretation of outcomes do not exist in a vacuum: that we require observers, whose ideas of reference are quite distinct from ours, means that we rely simply on associations built up from experience, and nothing more. The question is to whether or not these are at all accurate; and even if they are, do we consider them consistent with the actual qualities which give rise to certain behaviours?

That is, whether or not these attributes are representative of a true state of affairs rests upon the clarity with which an independent observer can make a sense connection; and this itself arises from an interminable habit of the mind, mainly to assign features to things which normally do not intrinsically possess that quality.

I mean to try to construct the thesis that our habits are those dependent upon independent observers; habits which are constructed from the interplay of experience (the is) and wants (the ought). Experience creates referential pathways in which some family resemblance is identified within a set of articulable preferences. I say 'articulable' preferences, since these are most immediate the speaker, and consequently provide the clearest impression upon them. I'd like to first establish what I call a subordinate chain of attributes; we distinguish between internal and external traits, a distinction which is made clear in the common sense impression of personality typologies.

In a subordinate chain, we have first internal attributes which indicate the manner of apprehension that an individual may have in a particular scenario, and second the external attributes which arise from outcomes gained through application of the first: so, for instance, we may consider 'melancholy' as an internal trait, while 'slovenness' can be considered an external one; we will say that "their slovenness is a product of their melancholy," though not necessarily the converse, though "their melancholy is a product of their slovenness" would also be a valid distinction, carrying a different connotation. But the information which is external and dependent of these attributions does not change; the difference in the two is just the manner of constructing these facts in language. In any case, we rarely apply subordinate chains in our reasoning of preferences; but the distinction is there, from which it bleeds into all preconceptions of the nature of the individuals.

This is where the difficulty arises, and perhaps reinforces the law of indeterminacy in assigning attributes. We have no consistent way of distinguishing between the two, and in fact are in no general agreement upon what constitutes an internal attribute; this would even tend toward the political, in consideration of 'slovenness' as an innate quality, which might be used to voice certain patterns of rhetoric, in particular of oppressive factions which should like to conflate the determinism of personality with that of biology. The difference consists in the identification of preference to a non-trivial or trivial event, whether that be indicators which consistently show that an individual procrastinates or perceiving their appearance to be unkempt. These in general are habits of assigning a family resemblance from experience, of which can in fact make use of subordinate chains in clarifying these realms of experience.

If external attributes are derived from internal ones, then internal attributes, in general, give rise to an attribution of preferences; these internal attributes partially derive from our interpretation of past outcomes, from which we either receive social acceptance or social animus, depending on the locus of their effects. Now, to quickly cover independent and dependent wants, dependent wants are desires or expectations for relationships which are inherited from ideas dependent upon the communities which we live in; on a global level, we can define this as the social contract, and on a local level as the standards of conduct embodied by the community. Independent wants are those which are determined by internal attributes i.e desires which aren't consistent with a dependent want, and consequently not being strictly rational. The desire to move in higher social circles is itself an independent want; or the desire to be the funniest in a group of friends, and so on. Global independent wants are essentially local dependent wants, and local independent wants is a tautology.

Now, the indeterminacy of internal attributes is conducive to the claim that "anything that drives personality is sure to rest on things inarticulable," which is to say that the cycle of giving voice to desire is largely indeterminate, according to our law of indeterminacy. To make an attribute articulate is to give weight to a sense impression, thereby entailing that we can act upon it, according to the attribution of preference to any particular action, from which certain attributes may be assigned thereto. That is, if I want to be seen as indifferent, I may make certain preferences in my actions more explicit, or in any case features which can be assigned a particular quality or attribute, of which hopefully will align with my own view of indifference. This want can be compelled by any number of things, and arises from an indescribable internal attribute for which it will bleed into many of my actions.

Say I want to become an individual who has an affable personality. I can conceive of the logical step in pursuing this want, perhaps understanding that affability consists in proactively engaging in discussion, feigning certain attitudes, etc., all of which amount to the part of internal attributes influencing my behaviour; yet the indeterminacy of internal attributes means that our choice over what preferences we should develop, in conjunction with what attributes are assigned to us from independent observers, rests on the strength with which the desirability of a certain outcome has in our mind, which is ultimately determined by any number of inarticulable internal attributes, and thus outside of our control. The logical step is reasonable, yet it requires something that is not intrinsic to my nature, nor experience.

So, the building of independent wants, which forms of bolus of 'personality' in individuals, derives from previous non-trivial outcomes which indicate the amount of acceptance/stigmatization that arises from adopting certain sets of attributes. In other words, we can attempt to shape and articulate our personality according to global and local interests, so long as we produce effective outcomes which align with our own desires. But this seems circular: since these desires are essentially reducible to differences in internal attributes, which arise from what I described above, it seems that the shaping of internal attributes is dependent on global and local interests, and thus not a consequence of our own will.

Now the question that arises is whether or not we can be held culpable for our own actions, since if they are determined by an inarticulate web of internal attributes that derive in part from experience, how can we be said to have choice over our preferences? Well, we can simply state that our understanding of personality ought to be distinct from any moral system; we can hold certain moral positions, and offer great moralistic riposte to any amoral claim: yet this arises from a difference in internal attributes, and consequently the whole chief claim to moralism is made inarticulate, and hence functionally useless in practice. In any case, who attribution of an individual as 'moral' is enigmatic at best, offering up, not a moral distinction, but an observation of a form of conduct which aligns with an independent observer: and this observation must be rooted in their own moral ideas, or perhaps according to what they perceive as normative or anarchic in the world.

There can be seen some general agreement in Marx, as characterised by "false consciousness," a term not explicitly used by him but nonetheless held as indicative of his own thoughts, that the working class may develop cognitive confusions as concealment of social contradictions, and that these are inherited from the capitalistic system which works against their own interests. Now, the agreement consists in perpetuating unsound expectations, which we are all complicit in, in favour of social hegemony. In particular, I think this defines the differences between the sexes rather well; and we can lazily compound our discourse with terms like "social constructs," which may be true but sounds misleading. We are consigned to these constructs in the very same way that we are consigned to a particular system of law; the independence of judiciary and the ideal of law as a separation of powers is self-regulatory in a sense, and the same can be said of social constructs, which can be represented as global wants manifest from the locale of internal attributes.

I disagree in that wants can be so reductive; after all, to purport that individuals should work in interests intuitively best for them is to describe an inarticulable desire for people to act in a way according to your own internal attributes: that is, the idea that independent observers determine self-interest in favour of the working class seems to me wrong. In any case, we are not in a position to determine what interests are best for an individual, even if we recognize that their current interests, perhaps, are not the greatest.

There is certainly a lot that I missed and should in future like to work on. In particular, the nature of assigning reference seems to me an error or representing the act of assigning weight to thought. I may have certain ideas of how thoughts operate, though this could possibly be affirmed by my own distinct representation with which my mind gives weight; and this can be altered, of course, by semantic loopholes, which may form an incredulous (or false) idea of my own mind. But that's mere posturing, and thus has no place in the plane of effects.

To put a controversial spin on the topic: are incels really capable of developing socially desirable qualities? My answer seems to be NO, that manufacturing social desirable attributes can be attempted in practice, but never fully committed to as a consequence of the law of indeterminacy; the logical step in evolving or achieving 'ascension' is clear, but the ability to actually make that leap must rely on internal attributes. I'll end there, since I don't wish to make any moral distinction in matters of character.

TL;DR personality is deterministic, traits are indeterminate. I may have missed a lot, but the general premise is clear.
 
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We are all our circumstances, don't think for a second you overcame them or anything. Those who think that way are arrogant privileged fools.
 
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I don't know if anything will come of this, nor will I be able to articulate myself properly. I've recently had thoughts pertaining to the manner of strengthening relationships, contributing to society and the requirements for being able to do both. Now, I should like to preface saying that I am in no measure a good analyst for the inner workings of the mind; since my experience is limited, I will naturally be inclined to produce a more theoretical explication which goes in line with my dislike of particularism, which is to say that I'd like to define the concept of personality through the general terms which are clearest to me. This can be seen as a brash formalism, but no matter.

My thesis is this: personality is deterministic. Personality is a highly complex thing, which would normally make our inquiry far too general to ever be conducive to any substantive procedure. In light of this, I propose to limit the scope of our inquiry to a particular domain of discourse, that of how we apply reference. My definition is this: personality consist of a set of observable preferences of how an individual may act in a given situation, according to the attribution of these preferences by independent observers to individuals exposed to non-trivial or trivial outcomes.

Now, the locus of this definition consists in a substantive commitment to a particular course of action, dependent upon the preferences of the individual. But there is a certain ambiguity in this, for these attributes, by our definition, must be assigned; for if we do not assign them, we can assume that the features are either independent of the scenario or inarticulable. The requirement that we have independent observers to root our reference in something material complicates things.

For one, we now have to account for the manner in which we tie articulable descriptions to the ephemeral realms of experience. For instance, to witness someone becoming infuriated with something arbitrary may be pinned down as an "ill-tempered" or "bellicose" attitude, according as the reaction is taken to be improportionate to the impetus. The difference here is the weight in which the action holds in this scenario, as may be seen in cultural miscommunication, with certain practices common to the one being absurd to the other. This in itself could be articulated in the other culture as some quintessentially "Western" attribute, and thus characteristic of a difference of habit; this can be seen by some as an eccentricity, which itself manifests as an attribute.

Now, we should not neglect that our definition lacks in generality. Of course there are scenarios in which outcomes are unimportant, such as when we identify the preferences of a speaker in conversation, or even prejudge the preferences of another by their appearance. I should like to answer that my intent is to divorce aesthetics from personality and, moreover, tie it to something more fundamental about social integration, in particular the desiderata of traits which are esteemed in society; this ties in to my investigation of wants, which has been covered in another thread of mine.

The determinism of personality is just the claim that we cannot choose which attributes are assigned to us, or at least that our role in trying to conform to such behaviours is arbitrary, and determined by a greater number of things. The law of indeterminacy states that the attributes we assign through our interpretation of outcomes do not exist in a vacuum: that we require observers, whose ideas of reference are quite distinct from ours, means that we rely simply on associations built up from experience, and nothing more. The question is to whether or not these are at all accurate; and even if they are, do we consider them consistent with the actual qualities which give rise to certain behaviours?

That is, whether or not these attributes are representative of a true state of affairs rests upon the clarity with which an independent observer can make a sense connection; and this itself arises from an interminable habit of the mind, mainly to assign features to things which normally do not intrinsically possess that quality.

I mean to try to construct the thesis that our habits are those dependent upon independent observers; habits which are constructed from the interplay of experience (the is) and wants (the ought). Experience creates referential pathways in which some family resemblance is identified within a set of articulable preferences. I say 'articulable' preferences, since these are most immediate the speaker, and consequently provide the clearest impression upon them. I'd like to first establish what I call a subordinate chain of attributes; we distinguish between internal and external traits, a distinction which is made clear in the common sense impression of personality typologies.

In a subordinate chain, we have first internal attributes which indicate the manner of apprehension that an individual may have in a particular scenario, and second the external attributes which arise from outcomes gained through application of the first: so, for instance, we may consider 'melancholy' as an internal trait, while 'slovenness' can be considered an external one; we will say that "their slovenness is a product of their melancholy," though not necessarily the converse, though "their melancholy is a product of their slovenness" would also be a valid distinction, carrying a different connotation. But the information which is external and dependent of these attributions does not change; the difference in the two is just the manner of constructing these facts in language. In any case, we rarely apply subordinate chains in our reasoning of preferences; but the distinction is there, from which it bleeds into all preconceptions of the nature of the individuals.

This is where the difficulty arises, and perhaps reinforces the law of indeterminacy in assigning attributes. We have no consistent way of distinguishing between the two, and in fact are in no general agreement upon what constitutes an internal attribute; this would even tend toward the political, in consideration of 'slovenness' as an innate quality, which might be used to voice certain patterns of rhetoric, in particular of oppressive factions which should like to conflate the determinism of personality with that of biology. The difference consists in the identification of preference to a non-trivial or trivial event, whether that be indicators which consistently show that an individual procrastinates or perceiving their appearance to be unkempt. These in general are habits of assigning a family resemblance from experience, of which can in fact make use of subordinate chains in clarifying these realms of experience.

If external attributes are derived from internal ones, then internal attributes, in general, give rise to an attribution of preferences; these internal attributes partially derive from our interpretation of past outcomes, from which we either receive social acceptance or social animus, depending on the locus of their effects. Now, to quickly cover independent and dependent wants, dependent wants are desires or expectations for relationships which are inherited from ideas dependent upon the communities which we live in; on a global level, we can define this as the social contract, and on a local level as the standards of conduct embodied by the community. Independent wants are those which are determined by internal attributes i.e desires which aren't consistent with a dependent want, and consequently not being strictly rational. The desire to move in higher social circles is itself an independent want; or the desire to be the funniest in a group of friends, and so on. Global independent wants are essentially local dependent wants, and local independent wants is a tautology.

Now, the indeterminacy of internal attributes is conducive to the claim that "anything that drives personality is sure to rest on things inarticulable," which is to say that the cycle of giving voice to desire is largely indeterminate, according to our law of indeterminacy. To make an attribute articulate is to give weight to a sense impression, thereby entailing that we can act upon it, according to the attribution of preference to any particular action, from which certain attributes may be assigned thereto. That is, if I want to be seen as indifferent, I may make certain preferences in my actions more explicit, or in any case features which can be assigned a particular quality or attribute, of which hopefully will align with my own view of indifference. This want can be compelled by any number of things, and arises from an indescribable internal attribute for which it will bleed into many of my actions.

Say I want to become an individual who has an affable personality. I can conceive of the logical step in pursuing this want, perhaps understanding that affability consists in proactively engaging in discussion, feigning certain attitudes, etc., all of which amount to the part of internal attributes influencing my behaviour; yet the indeterminacy of internal attributes means that our choice over what preferences we should develop, in conjunction with what attributes are assigned to us from independent observers, rests on the strength with which the desirability of a certain outcome has in our mind, which is ultimately determined by any number of inarticulable internal attributes, and thus outside of our control. The logical step is reasonable, yet it requires something that is not intrinsic to my nature, nor experience.

So, the building of independent wants, which forms of bolus of 'personality' in individuals, derives from previous non-trivial outcomes which indicate the amount of acceptance/stigmatization that arises from adopting certain sets of attributes. In other words, we can attempt to shape and articulate our personality according to global and local interests, so long as we produce effective outcomes which align with our own desires. But this seems circular: since these desires are essentially reducible to differences in internal attributes, which arise from what I described above, it seems that the shaping of internal attributes is dependent on global and local interests, and thus not a consequence of our own will.

Now the question that arises is whether or not we can be held culpable for our own actions, since if they are determined by an inarticulate web of internal attributes that derive in part from experience, how can we be said to have choice over our preferences? Well, we can simply state that our understanding of personality ought to be distinct from any moral system; we can hold certain moral positions, and offer great moralistic riposte to any amoral claim: yet this arises from a difference in internal attributes, and consequently the whole chief claim to moralism is made inarticulate, and hence functionally useless in practice. In any case, who attribution of an individual as 'moral' is enigmatic at best, offering up, not a moral distinction, but an observation of a form of conduct which aligns with an independent observer: and this observation must be rooted in their own moral ideas, or perhaps according to what they perceive as normative or anarchic in the world.

There can be seen some general agreement in Marx, as characterised by "false consciousness," a term not explicitly used by him but nonetheless held as indicative of his own thoughts, that the working class may develop cognitive confusions as concealment of social contradictions, and that these are inherited from the capitalistic system which works against their own interests. Now, the agreement consists in perpetuating unsound expectations, which we are all complicit in, in favour of social hegemony. In particular, I think this defines the differences between the sexes rather well; and we can lazily compound our discourse with terms like "social constructs," which may be true but sounds misleading. We are consigned to these constructs in the very same way that we are consigned to a particular system of law; the independence of judiciary and the ideal of law as a separation of powers is self-regulatory in a sense, and the same can be said of social constructs, which can be represented as global wants manifest from the locale of internal attributes.

I disagree in that wants can be so reductive; after all, to purport that individuals should work in interests intuitively best for them is to describe an inarticulable desire for people to act in a way according to your own internal attributes: that is, the idea that independent observers determine self-interest in favour of the working class seems to me wrong. In any case, we are not in a position to determine what interests are best for an individual, even if we recognize that their current interests, perhaps, are not the greatest.

There is certainly a lot that I missed and should in future like to work on. In particular, the nature of assigning reference seems to me an error or representing the act of assigning weight to thought. I may have certain ideas of how thoughts operate, though this could possibly be affirmed by my own distinct representation with which my mind gives weight; and this can be altered, of course, by semantic loopholes, which may form an incredulous (or false) idea of my own mind. But that's mere posturing, and thus has no place in the plane of effects.

To put a controversial spin on the topic: are incels really capable of developing socially desirable qualities? My answer seems to be NO, that manufacturing social desirable attributes can be attempted in practice, but never fully committed to as a consequence of the law of indeterminacy; the logical step in evolving or achieving 'ascension' is clear, but the ability to actually make that leap must rely on internal attributes. I'll end there, since I don't wish to make any moral distinction in matters of character.

TL;DR personality is deterministic, traits are indeterminate. I may have missed a lot, but the general premise is clear.
This is very interesting and articulate. I read it but wasn't sure I completely understood everything so I asked chat gpt to simplify. This is the summary it came up with, would you say this is close to accurate encapsulating what you are saying?:

The text discusses the complexities of personality, arguing that it is largely shaped by external factors and how others perceive us. Here's a simpler breakdown:

1. **Personality and Relationships**: The author is exploring how personality affects relationships and societal contributions, emphasizing that understanding personality requires recognizing how it's shaped by others' observations.

2. **Determinism of Personality**: They claim personality traits are determined by a mix of internal preferences and external feedback from others, meaning we don't fully control how we're perceived.

3. **Internal vs. External Traits**: The text distinguishes between internal traits (like feelings or thoughts) and external traits (observable behaviors), noting that one often influences the other.

4. **Cultural Context**: Different cultures may interpret behaviors differently, leading to misunderstandings about personality attributes.

5. **Independent and Dependent Wants**: The author differentiates between wants shaped by societal norms (dependent) and personal desires (independent), suggesting that our ability to change our personality relies heavily on these external influences.

6. **Choice and Responsibility**: The piece questions whether we can truly be held responsible for our actions, as they are influenced by a web of internal and external factors beyond our control.

7. **Social Constructs**: The text critiques the idea that societal constructs define our identities, arguing that these constructs can also limit individual expression.

8. **Conclusion**: The author is skeptical about whether certain groups (like "incels") can develop socially desirable qualities, suggesting that while change is possible, it may be constrained by deeper internal factors.

Overall, the main idea is that personality is shaped more by external perceptions and social context than by individual choice.
 
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We are all our circumstances, don't think for a second you overcame them or anything. Those who think that way are arrogant privileged fools.
100%. Those arrogant, prideful fuckers love to go on about how they were top of the class or whatever the fuck, but they don't want to acknowledge the litany of advantages they had. The brain you have, your brain cells, your relationships, and your perception of the world are not something you manufacture.
 
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This is very interesting and articulate. I read it but wasn't sure I completely understood everything so I asked chat gpt to simplify. This is the summary it came up with, would you say this is close to accurate encapsulating what you are saying?:

The text discusses the complexities of personality, arguing that it is largely shaped by external factors and how others perceive us. Here's a simpler breakdown:

1. **Personality and Relationships**: The author is exploring how personality affects relationships and societal contributions, emphasizing that understanding personality requires recognizing how it's shaped by others' observations.

2. **Determinism of Personality**: They claim personality traits are determined by a mix of internal preferences and external feedback from others, meaning we don't fully control how we're perceived.

3. **Internal vs. External Traits**: The text distinguishes between internal traits (like feelings or thoughts) and external traits (observable behaviors), noting that one often influences the other.

4. **Cultural Context**: Different cultures may interpret behaviors differently, leading to misunderstandings about personality attributes.

5. **Independent and Dependent Wants**: The author differentiates between wants shaped by societal norms (dependent) and personal desires (independent), suggesting that our ability to change our personality relies heavily on these external influences.

6. **Choice and Responsibility**: The piece questions whether we can truly be held responsible for our actions, as they are influenced by a web of internal and external factors beyond our control.

7. **Social Constructs**: The text critiques the idea that societal constructs define our identities, arguing that these constructs can also limit individual expression.

8. **Conclusion**: The author is skeptical about whether certain groups (like "incels") can develop socially desirable qualities, suggesting that while change is possible, it may be constrained by deeper internal factors.

Overall, the main idea is that personality is shaped more by external perceptions and social context than by individual choice.
more or less. the grounding of attributes is only subject to our own influence when they are material attributions; material attributions being some agreement between an ideal (fully impartial) independent observer and a biased one (one subject to social preconceptions) with respect to some observable action/quality; but, as the law of indeterminacy states, any subsequent modification we make to our behaviour in response to a material attribution can only satiate an internal idea of what a socially desirable attribute is, which is something not determined by us (i can be called an 'angry' individual, and i may form some idea of past occurrences of my anger, but to negate these would require i have some idea of a 'calm' person -- what i perceive as the opposite of anger -- and modifying my behaviour to accord with this idea will run the risk of appearing differently to observers, whose perception i am subject to). so the application is indeterminate.

independent wants might be inherited from authority, but are independent of the social contract by virtue of their being often contrary to the aims of the social unit. i would say that dependent wants are closer to contractual agreements than social norms. they are norms, yes, but they aren't accepted by virtue of this fact. they arise from some implicit -- perhaps biological -- understanding that communities, and consequently relationships, offer some form of utility, and hence mutually agreed upon conditions must be upheld. but relationships are tricky, and often require some interplay between dependent and independent wants in order to reach full satisfaction and cooperation.

social constructs i don't believe can be dogmatically deconstructed, as some claim. they are evinced from a locus of global and local dependent wants; and dependent wants, i should have added, are necessary for maintaining primary social goods: natural rights, ownership of property, etc., which are necessarily prior to independent wants, as they don't offer reward but things which we are naturally entitled to, and we are contractually obligated these so long as we fulfill the conditions required of us from these dependencies. social constructs can be wrong and thus challenged on these grounds, but not always. more often than not, they are in place for a reason; i gather that these reasons are the emergence of biological imperatives acting under the banner of global dependent wants, which regulate what is socially desirable. and obviously social acts which affirm these constructs, i assume, have been reached through a regulation of global dependent and local dependent wants, which then form independent wants (global dependent want = procreation is a contractual process, local dependent want = there are certain needs in my community with respect to sexual conduct, such as an expectation that one finds a partner early on, independent want = i want to associate with those who are more successful than me at finding a partner).
 
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