athiestjoe
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- Sep 24, 2024
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Hey everyone,
I want to take a moment to honor my friend, Plato'sCaveDweller. Although our friendship was brief, it was filled with unforgettable moments. They were thoughtful, caring, and incredibly intelligent. Plato's last request was for me to share a timeline of their passing, and I want to do so with the respect it deserves. Plato was a true ally, always helping me with grammar and spelling in my posts without ever seeking recognition. They let me take the shine for my posts, but truth be told those posts would have been shitty without their insights and feedback; Plato was a trusted keen eye, always eager to let me know if there were any gaps that needed to be filled in, and also provided some much-needed spell check and grammar editing. Thank you, my friend.
Out of respect for Plato, I kindly ask that we keep this thread focused and refrain from seeking information about sources. In their final days, Plato aimed to give back to SaSu, and we should honor that intention.
As a disclaimer, I want to clarify that a mutual friend provided this timeline, and they wish to remain anonymous. I discussed this disclaimer with Plato, and they agreed that transparency aligns with my character. I fully trust the accuracy of this information, as the individual sharing it has no reason to mislead. This person is well-respected on this site, so please refrain from speculating about their identity. If they wanted to be known, they would have shared this themselves; speculation could discourage them from helping others in the future. Thank you for your understanding. Plato did not originally intend or plan to document their CTB but in the end decided it was something they would like to give back to the site by doing and also in helping quell any of the recent concerns about DMC's SN if it were successful; they asked me to clarify this for them since in their GBT they said they would not be providing further updates.
You can find Plato's protocol on their goodbye thread, where they thoughtfully detailed their approach (DMC source, stat meto, no benzos, no beta blockers). Plato used a BP monitor and pulse oximeter and took stats going into the call, then used it during the call. It is possible the initial O2 reading was either misread or written down incorrectly but I am leaving it 'as is' since it does not take away from the overall recollection and I am not going to edit any of it for the sake of transparency and respect for both Plato and the person who sent me these details.
Without further ado, here is the recounting of their final moments on October 17, 2024:
-- All times in PDT (UTC-7) --
10:00 975mg Tylenol
10:15 30mg Meto
10:17 130BPM
10:18 O2 90
10:20 BP 131/96
10:25 Locked door to spot
10:35 Opening SN (DMC, came in a bag inside a bag, ordered on sept 3rd, received 14th Sept)
10:37 Weighing things out
10:40 Distributions made for each cup (3 prepared)
10:46 Measuring water
10:49 Dissolving SN
10:52 Bringing glasses to spot
10:54 Putting on BP cuff
10:58 BP 146/96, Pulse 134, O2 97%
11:00 1st cup SN
11:01 O2 97, pulse 162, BP 144/80
11:02 "Chemical tasting burps"
11:03 Mentally ok, slight nausea, coughing
11:04 Puked x 1 + more burping
11:05 O2 90, retching, puke x 3
11:06 Burping, spitting
11:07 Another puke, doesn't think they can take 2nd cup
11:08 Going to try second cup
11:09 Lightheaded, fast heart rate
11:10 Retching, more spitting, possible puke
11:11 "Second cup not possible, going to lay down"
11:12 Faster breathing
11:13 Labored breath sounds
11:14 Intense breath sounds
11:15 Falling noise, likely off of bed
11:17 Silence
11:18 Low moaning, pretty quiet, likely losing consciousness
11:19 Small background noise, choppy breath sounds
11:20 Choppy breath
11:21 Spaced out, choppy breath sounds
11:22 Slight groaning breath, gasping inhales
11:23 Gasping inhales continue, choppy pattern
11:24 No words, longer breath sounds
11:25 More spaced out, slower gasping sounding breaths
11:26 Slower gasping breath sounds
11:27 Tiny groaning breath noise, small background noise
11:28 Big hoarse breath (last?)
11:30 - 12:20 Silence.
Thank you to the person (you know who you are) for doing this for my friend and thank you all on here for being amazing in all ways. The user who accompanied Plato was reassured by how they were feeling, happy yet nervous. They were very lucky to have Plato trust them in those final moments. They shared genuine laughs and probably would have been great friends in real life, but they value them just the same, and have found solace in the fact that they are at peace, after multiple failed attempts. They are free now.
Plato truly cherished this community. While I wish I could say I look forward to reuniting with them on "the other side," we both believed in non-existence after death. One of the things that brought us closer was our shared, science-based perspective on life and death. They offered me tremendous comfort, even though they thought they weren't particularly good at consoling others or knowing what to say; I always found their presence incredibly reassuring. I will greatly miss our daily conversations now they are gone; I always looked forward to every morning having something in my inbox from them. That, I will miss. I have peace knowing they aren't suffering anymore though.
Finally, Plato wanted to leave us with two songs which I am linking below:
May this information serve as a helpful, educational resource for others. I take lots of comfort in knowing they found the serenity they sought.
I want to take a moment to honor my friend, Plato'sCaveDweller. Although our friendship was brief, it was filled with unforgettable moments. They were thoughtful, caring, and incredibly intelligent. Plato's last request was for me to share a timeline of their passing, and I want to do so with the respect it deserves. Plato was a true ally, always helping me with grammar and spelling in my posts without ever seeking recognition. They let me take the shine for my posts, but truth be told those posts would have been shitty without their insights and feedback; Plato was a trusted keen eye, always eager to let me know if there were any gaps that needed to be filled in, and also provided some much-needed spell check and grammar editing. Thank you, my friend.
Out of respect for Plato, I kindly ask that we keep this thread focused and refrain from seeking information about sources. In their final days, Plato aimed to give back to SaSu, and we should honor that intention.
As a disclaimer, I want to clarify that a mutual friend provided this timeline, and they wish to remain anonymous. I discussed this disclaimer with Plato, and they agreed that transparency aligns with my character. I fully trust the accuracy of this information, as the individual sharing it has no reason to mislead. This person is well-respected on this site, so please refrain from speculating about their identity. If they wanted to be known, they would have shared this themselves; speculation could discourage them from helping others in the future. Thank you for your understanding. Plato did not originally intend or plan to document their CTB but in the end decided it was something they would like to give back to the site by doing and also in helping quell any of the recent concerns about DMC's SN if it were successful; they asked me to clarify this for them since in their GBT they said they would not be providing further updates.
You can find Plato's protocol on their goodbye thread, where they thoughtfully detailed their approach (DMC source, stat meto, no benzos, no beta blockers). Plato used a BP monitor and pulse oximeter and took stats going into the call, then used it during the call. It is possible the initial O2 reading was either misread or written down incorrectly but I am leaving it 'as is' since it does not take away from the overall recollection and I am not going to edit any of it for the sake of transparency and respect for both Plato and the person who sent me these details.
Without further ado, here is the recounting of their final moments on October 17, 2024:
-- All times in PDT (UTC-7) --
10:00 975mg Tylenol
10:15 30mg Meto
10:17 130BPM
10:18 O2 90
10:20 BP 131/96
10:25 Locked door to spot
10:35 Opening SN (DMC, came in a bag inside a bag, ordered on sept 3rd, received 14th Sept)
10:37 Weighing things out
10:40 Distributions made for each cup (3 prepared)
10:46 Measuring water
10:49 Dissolving SN
10:52 Bringing glasses to spot
10:54 Putting on BP cuff
10:58 BP 146/96, Pulse 134, O2 97%
11:00 1st cup SN
11:01 O2 97, pulse 162, BP 144/80
11:02 "Chemical tasting burps"
11:03 Mentally ok, slight nausea, coughing
11:04 Puked x 1 + more burping
11:05 O2 90, retching, puke x 3
11:06 Burping, spitting
11:07 Another puke, doesn't think they can take 2nd cup
11:08 Going to try second cup
11:09 Lightheaded, fast heart rate
11:10 Retching, more spitting, possible puke
11:11 "Second cup not possible, going to lay down"
11:12 Faster breathing
11:13 Labored breath sounds
11:14 Intense breath sounds
11:15 Falling noise, likely off of bed
11:17 Silence
11:18 Low moaning, pretty quiet, likely losing consciousness
11:19 Small background noise, choppy breath sounds
11:20 Choppy breath
11:21 Spaced out, choppy breath sounds
11:22 Slight groaning breath, gasping inhales
11:23 Gasping inhales continue, choppy pattern
11:24 No words, longer breath sounds
11:25 More spaced out, slower gasping sounding breaths
11:26 Slower gasping breath sounds
11:27 Tiny groaning breath noise, small background noise
11:28 Big hoarse breath (last?)
11:30 - 12:20 Silence.
Thank you to the person (you know who you are) for doing this for my friend and thank you all on here for being amazing in all ways. The user who accompanied Plato was reassured by how they were feeling, happy yet nervous. They were very lucky to have Plato trust them in those final moments. They shared genuine laughs and probably would have been great friends in real life, but they value them just the same, and have found solace in the fact that they are at peace, after multiple failed attempts. They are free now.
Plato truly cherished this community. While I wish I could say I look forward to reuniting with them on "the other side," we both believed in non-existence after death. One of the things that brought us closer was our shared, science-based perspective on life and death. They offered me tremendous comfort, even though they thought they weren't particularly good at consoling others or knowing what to say; I always found their presence incredibly reassuring. I will greatly miss our daily conversations now they are gone; I always looked forward to every morning having something in my inbox from them. That, I will miss. I have peace knowing they aren't suffering anymore though.
Finally, Plato wanted to leave us with two songs which I am linking below:
May this information serve as a helpful, educational resource for others. I take lots of comfort in knowing they found the serenity they sought.