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curiousbeing

I tried my best
Dec 18, 2022
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Yeah, I tried. They said ctb is wrong and I should get a life. Ok. I got a job. They say "we dont have salary to give you, so you will get something like $50 a month". It is a teaching job. I teach English. I said ok. Better than unemployment, and also according to pro life bullshit, "good things come to those who wait and not give up". Ok. I teach using traditional ways - focusing on grammar and vocabulary - they blame me for "boring" lessons. Ok. I add new elements to my class, like listening to music, reading, talking about English culture, me downloading videos from youtube and watching them together at class (just in case there is no wifi suddenly and I cant access YouTube), and everyone ENJOYS - staff blames me that "I turn classes into games. Classes are supposed to be very traditional". Of course, months have already passed and noone paid me one dollar. They simply avoid me and pray to God I won't raise subject of getting my 50$ salary. So far, I also stay silent - just to see how pathetic they can be to not pay my $50 a month salary (I teach almost all days a week, each class almost 120 minutes, I even bring my own laptop to work - no teacher here does this).

I feel angry and suicidal. According to pro-life BS, I should ask for help when I feel suicidal. I openly let some people know I feel angry and suicidal. They acknowledge and tell me "Yes its hard. Please stop complaining. Just find a way to adapt". That is it. If I kindly ask for help because their useless advice didnt help me, they dont take me seriously and tell me to shut up. If I get really angry, they become dramatic and tell me that I dont have suicidal thoughts, I just use topic of suicide to blackmail them, to manipulate them to do whatever I want. Wow. So much for getting help. So much for reaching out.

I went to doctor too. One of them said "look you dont have suicidal thoughts. You just want to be married". Another one was more cautious, she gave me some medications, because she already saw one of her patients kill himself. At least, she tried to help me in a genuine way, so I will always remember this doctor. But my life ... getting angry every day... medications helped me, but after stopping them I just get angry every day, so their calming effect eventually disappears. No matter what I do, people blame me. If I listen to their problems after they blame me for "you always complain but never listen to others", they blame me for "we started talking and now we feel very bad, because we remembered every bad thing that happened in our lives. You dont listen to us, you make us remember every shit we had". I mean no matter what I do, someone is going to be angry at me! Of course, not all people are like this, but unfortunately they are majority



Fast forward to today


These days, weather temperature is 19 Celsius at midday, 10-12 Celsius at night (I dont know temperature at sea). But after a few days, air temperature will at least drop for a few days: daytime temperature: 10C, nighttime 5C.



So... My method was to choke myself by swallowing napkins and blocking airways by plastic bag method at the same time while I am inside cold sea water. Like... Hold some napkins inside mouth, cover mouth and nose with plastic bag/duct tape, and then when I have courage, swallow napkins. This way, even after swallowing them still allows some air to pass through throat (partial obstruction), covered mouth/nose will still not allow any air to enter my throat! And even if I end up saving myself, I may lose consciousness and fall down into sea, thus drowned. Or, even if I remove duct tapes, don't swallow anything and run away from sea and go to land, hypothermia will kill me, because unlike today's 19C air temperature, air temperature will be 5C that day. Cold air will prevent me from getting warmer

I know that even if air temperature is 5C, water temperature will probably be higher, like 8C. But looking at this graph, in the worst case, I will need about 3 hours to hypothermia kill me. Inside wilderness, at night, nearest hospital far away, I am sure I won't be found at least until its morning the next day

I know this can't just fail. Heck, I even think that I should bring with myself some large knife, and hit my throat as hard as I can, inside sea. By collapsing into sea, sea will make it much harder for others to find me + sea will have its own hypothermia effect. I am sure I will sever at least jugular veins around carotid artery, if not carotid artery itself. I heard that deeper veins around carotid artery are also very important. Although ctb not as quick as carotid artery cut, severing them will still be very dangerous.

If I hit them and end up paralyzing my nerves/blind myself due to some important nerve getting cut, I will still fall into sea and bleed heavily

I just cant anymore. Please, wish me luck. Please. If I stay alive and once again do nothing, my life will only get worse.

I am in my 20s, but my cholesterol level is already 140. Yes, 140. Normal range must be up to 100. Dangerous range starts from 190. Even if I live, probably after ten days, with such anger triggering bad chemicals, my levels will rise to dangerous one and I will have a stroke!
Please, support me with words, with your emotional support I can finally get over my guilt and ctb. Living like this will be very dangerous for me.
 
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Nov 17, 2024
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you ask to wish you luck and i do i wish for exactly what you want. This method is no good with too many factors that lead to pain, i wish that be the absolute last thing for you to experience. So i suggest a partial hanging, i understand you just want to go but please see this as another option when you finally decide to leave. Godspeed brother.
 
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curiousbeing

I tried my best
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you ask to wish you luck and i do i wish for exactly what you want. This method is no good with too many factors that lead to pain, i wish that be the absolute last thing for you to experience. So i suggest a partial hanging, i understand you just want to go but please see this as another option when you finally decide to leave. Godspeed brother.
Unfortunately I cant do it. I will be found. Thanks for your reply. I know my current method is very painful but if I finally do it, it will be effective. I suffer from OCD so I think what if it will fail, what if I didnt wash my hands, what if I didnt lock door after leaving house, what if I will fail, severe self doubt. This self doubt prevents me. I wrongly think I will somehow survive but I just keep thinking its real, I hate OCD
I go to doctor, they ignore me. I buy phone, after calling them 4 times, they still dont register my phone in official documents. I talk with people, they blame me for not going to doctor. I again go to doctor, they blame me for being dramatic (I am always kind, introvert, quiet person)
I posted water temperature chart in both C and F, so everyone can understand it in their own temperature unit
 
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Unfortunately I cant do it. I will be found. Thanks for your reply. I know my current method is very painful but if I finally do it, it will be effective. I suffer from OCD so I think what if it will fail, what if I didnt wash my hands, what if I didnt lock door after leaving house, what if I will fail, severe self doubt. This self doubt prevents me. I wrongly think I will somehow survive but I just keep thinking its real, I hate OCD
alright i understand, then at least explore the option for methods including the use of a plastic bag with baking soda mixture to remove air. this way within less than seconds you take all air out suffocate and shock your body with the cold most likely causing you to black out. this way your not just drowning + suffocating for a minute or more.
 
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ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
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"Get a life". That's exactly what I want to avoid. I don't want a life, I want the cessation of my life. I don't want to adapt either (though I can't adapt anyway). I have no interest in staying alive so anti suicide platitudes are meaningless to me. Sorry but I'm not interested in pointlessly going through struggle and hardship
 
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"Get a life". That's exactly what I want to avoid. I don't want a life, I want the cessation of my life. I don't want to adapt either (though I can't adapt anyway). I have no interest in staying alive so anti suicide platitudes are meaningless to me. Sorry but I'm not interested in pointlessly going through struggle and hardship
I've been going through the motions so much im losing track of what i want, a guy talked to me about it that i have desires and they are never ending no matter what i do. So i told him that it only reaffirms my want for cbt and i want to once i have fulfilled a small desire could be anything but i dont want my mother to suffer. because from her eyes there's no reason to but she'll end up blaming herself. I can't push myself to when she will suffer in the end.
 
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curiousbeing

I tried my best
Dec 18, 2022
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alright i understand, then at least explore the option for methods including the use of a plastic bag with baking soda mixture to remove air. this way within less than seconds you take all air out suffocate and shock your body with the cold most likely causing you to black out. this way your not just drowning + suffocating for a minute or more.
I didn't know about this at all! Thanks so much. Every day I learn something new regarding ctb. Yes, hypothermia is good in one aspect that it may help me lose consciousness immediately or very fast. Like... If I see that hypothermia is very rapid, I can quickly cover my mouth and nose and then collapse out of hypothermia and not feel suffocation. Provided that this happens and I get timing right. This is a hypothetical situation; yes. But it can turn out to be real when I ctb. I try to keep in my mind all possibilities as far as I am aware. I don't know what I don't know, but I am trying

Honestly though, cutting feels terrible but in my opinion in practice, it is going to be better than suffocation for me. So I consider it too. Why? According to google, if there is sudden and intense pain, body may experience some mental shock and not feel pain so much. Much better than horrible suffocation.
"Get a life". That's exactly what I want to avoid. I don't want a life, I want the cessation of my life. I don't want to adapt either (though I can't adapt anyway). I have no interest in staying alive so anti suicide platitudes are meaningless to me. Sorry but I'm not interested in pointlessly going through struggle and hardship
yes. Exactly. I heard it too. "Get a life". I tried. So much for getting a life. All drama. Good people do exist, beautiful things exist, I like technology, they are reasons for me to live. But that is it. There is nothing else. JUst pain, suffering
I've been going through the motions so much im losing track of what i want, a guy talked to me about it that i have desires and they are never ending no matter what i do. So i told him that it only reaffirms my want for cbt and i want to once i have fulfilled a small desire could be anything but i dont want my mother to suffer. because from her eyes there's no reason to but she'll end up blaming herself. I can't push myself to when she will suffer in the end.
EXACTLY why I can't ctb. Exactly why. You put it very good!!!!
 
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I didn't know about this at all! Thanks so much. Every day I learn something new regarding ctb. Yes, hypothermia is good in one aspect that it may help me lose consciousness immediately or very fast. Like... If I see that hypothermia is very rapid, I can quickly cover my mouth and nose and then collapse out of hypothermia and not feel suffocation. Provided that this happens and I get timing right. This is a hypothetical situation; yes. But it can turn out to be real when I ctb. I try to keep in my mind all possibilities as far as I am aware. I don't know what I don't know, but I am trying

Honestly though, cutting feels terrible but in my opinion in practice, it is going to be better than suffocation for me. So I consider it too. Why? According to google, if there is sudden and intense pain, body may experience some mental shock and not feel pain so much. Much better than horrible suffocation.

yes. Exactly. I heard it too. "Get a life". I tried. So much for getting a life. All drama. Good people do exist, beautiful things exist, I like technology, they are reasons for me to live. But that is it. There is nothing else. JUst pain, suffering

EXACTLY why I can't ctb. Exactly why. You put it very good!!!!
honestly you mention cutting which i thought about it and you could just chug pain killers/ numbing pills etc. so that you dont have to feel anything and when you add it to the fact that your jumping into super cold water you wont feel anything.
 
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I tried my best
Dec 18, 2022
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honestly you mention cutting which i thought about it and you could just chug pain killers/ numbing pills etc. so that you dont have to feel anything and when you add it to the fact that your jumping into super cold water you wont feel anything.
i thank you from bottom of my heart. Not because I feel emotional now, but because your messages affirm what I think, you don't fuel my self doubt by telling me what if I will fail. You also correctly understand that I just can't fail this and it's actually wrong and cruel to tell me otherwise and trigger my ocd, self doubt, thus making me live more

I have pain killers, thanks for making me remember them. Thank you so much. I need this validation from other people so much to calm my ocd self doubting crazy mind
honestly you mention cutting which i thought about it and you could just chug pain killers/ numbing pills etc. so that you dont have to feel anything and when you add it to the fact that your jumping into super cold water you wont feel anything.
I actually googled that does super cold water numb pain or am I just too optimistic? Google says yes. It numbs tooth pain in people. I didn't even imagine in my wildest dreams that cold water can actually numb pain too. your message helped me learn about it. thanks again
honestly you mention cutting which i thought about it and you could just chug pain killers/ numbing pills etc. so that you dont have to feel anything and when you add it to the fact that your jumping into super cold water you wont feel anything.
And also, infection will happen where seawater is in contact with wound. I totally forgot this
 
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