Pro-Lifers don't understand

[TragedyBornCrimson]

I look online and see so much hate for this website, so much public outcry and blatant hate. To the pro lifers want the creators of this website gone, how ironic. I am tired of these self-righteous jerks pretending to care about the situations we are in. If people truly cared and if this world wasn't that bad this website wouldn't need to exist in the first place. The truth is what drives many people to ctb are these:

-Traumatized by people/events
-Unable to fit into the rules of society
-The constant feeling of being inadequate
- Misanthrope developed through just watching people everyday
-A genuine search for the truth and peace
-Tired of existence all together
etc..
Forgive my awful grammar
The very people that pro lifers are trying to help by taking these places and sources down are the same people that mostly don't care in day to day interactions. They don't understand that forcing people to exist that will never fit in to begin with is evil. I see people laughing at the suffering of the homeless or people that have failed to make a life for themselves, or are in unfortunate circumstances. I see people hate on other races or people with different physical features people who don't fit the status quo. Pro-lifers are hypocrites to the extreme degree. While we live people make fun of our suffering or use our suffering to make themselves feel better. Without us regular people breeding how would people like Andrew Tate or P diddy get women to mess with? Who would the rich have to do their bidding? Who would the Billionaires have to control and do their bidding? WINNERS want losers to stay alive because without losers who would the winners be. This dynamic exists within families as well, we all have people in our families who are laughed and scoffed at. The truth is pro-lifers are only looking at themselves and they fail to see what causes people to reach the conclusion of CTB. The only pro-lifers I have sympathy for is those that actually care. Those who have bleeding hearts and actually understand the suffering but idealistically look to hope and push others to see hope. Those people are rare and usually end up suicidal when they realize the majority of the human race only exists to satisfy themselves. It's ironic that the souls that would probably do the most good in the world want to leave it the most.
Either way pro-lifers won't sway my opinion, they want to remove choice and then leave us high and dry. That's what happens with abortion as well, people care about unborn babies and then they end up arrested and hated as adults. This virtue signaling needs to stop and people need to analyze their own minds which will never happen.

 

[AnderDethsky]

Great written, expressive, emotionally intense (in a good way), and meaningful release of what's on your and not only your mind. Thank you.

To be honest, until I read your list of reasons for suicide, I was not serious about how brazenly the pro-lifers are able to distort reality, going to any means just to convince us of the value of life and discredit the rejection of it.

We can even look at Wikipedia, which, in the opinion of a large society, are the reasons for suicide, among which you will surely find: Adultery, Job loss, Betrayal of a friend, Mental disorders — I began to guess what exactly is confusing me here: There will definitely be those who have found the strength to continue living with it above. What makes someone choose no longer live is definitely It's too complicated to be something ordinary and understandable for masses.

Of course, what is on this list can be additional suicide fuel, but what actually leads people to this will turn out to be much less superficial, and closer to what you described.

This can be expressed as:
"People do not commit suicide from poverty/disability, but from inability to fit into the rules of society to which this leads them.
People do not commit suicide not from loneliness/ugliness/love failures, but from the feeling of inferiority that arises from this."

It's easy enough to say something like "this dude committed suicide because of money," because you can easily draw some conclusions from this, blame the capitalist system for everything for example, or you can simply challenge the correctness of his action by simply describing him as a "weakling."

But how can one challenge, for example, the already deeper, existential "inability to fit into the rules of society"? After all, this is more than just some specific situation that a person could not survive. After all, this is something that society is afraid to mention, because if you think about it enough, you can inadvertently go beyond the one-sided postulate about the super-value of the life of each of us.

 

[Worndown]

Real pro-lifers live in a different world. They do not know what they are talking about. They are also evangelical in their pursuit. They are foolish.

 

[yaa]

I look online and see so much hate for this website, so much public outcry and blatant hate. To the pro lifers want the creators of this website gone, how ironic. I am tired of these self-righteous jerks pretending to care about the situations we are in. If people truly cared and if this world wasn't that bad this website wouldn't need to exist in the first place. The truth is what drives many people to ctb are these:

-Traumatized by people/events
-Unable to fit into the rules of society
-The constant feeling of being inadequate
- Misanthrope developed through just watching people everyday
-A genuine search for the truth and peace
-Tired of existence all together
etc..
Forgive my awful grammar
The very people that pro lifers are trying to help by taking these places and sources down are the same people that mostly don't care in day to day interactions. They don't understand that forcing people to exist that will never fit in to begin with is evil. I see people laughing at the suffering of the homeless or people that have failed to make a life for themselves, or are in unfortunate circumstances. I see people hate on other races or people with different physical features people who don't fit the status quo. Pro-lifers are hypocrites to the extreme degree. While we live people make fun of our suffering or use our suffering to make themselves feel better. Without us regular people breeding how would people like Andrew Tate or P diddy get women to mess with? Who would the rich have to do their bidding? Who would the Billionaires have to control and do their bidding? WINNERS want losers to stay alive because without losers who would the winners be. This dynamic exists within families as well, we all have people in our families who are laughed and scoffed at. The truth is pro-lifers are only looking at themselves and they fail to see what causes people to reach the conclusion of CTB. The only pro-lifers I have sympathy for is those that actually care. Those who have bleeding hearts and actually understand the suffering but idealistically look to hope and push others to see hope. Those people are rare and usually end up suicidal when they realize the majority of the human race only exists to satisfy themselves. It's ironic that the souls that would probably do the most good in the world want to leave it the most.
Either way pro-lifers won't sway my opinion, they want to remove choice and then leave us high and dry. That's what happens with abortion as well, people care about unborn babies and then they end up arrested and hated as adults. This virtue signaling needs to stop and people need to analyze their own minds which will never happen.

This was a lovely read I agree with every damn word you said, if you ever needed someone to vent to or talk with I'd love to listen, lmk if you have discord
Everything you said fit perfect to a T , made me cry thinking about how people have to try and find sites like this so they don't feel alone and they're trying to find easy methods to leave peacefully because the pro lifers that care so much about us force us to stay and don't get euthanisa . So they can put their dog down, any other animals down peacefully but when it's human it's a no? Fucking insane fuckers. Pisses me off that these submissive Stockholm syndrome fuckers that love their abusers (peasants to those they keep in power for no reason) try to force that shit down our throat too. Just because they have low standards and love this shit hole doesn't mean we are the same. If they love this life so much I wish they'd mind their fucking business' and let us talk and do what we please in our spaces because for FUCK SAKES the whole world is there echo chamber. Humans try so hard to make reality look like it's not as sadistic as it is but I see through their lies. I see all the suffering and hear all the lost screams of the innocent. Like I always get gaslighted shit I'm not allowed to dare say I hate it here , they're fucking nuts they just say that's life get over it. Stop being so negative. Gee others have it worse then you lighten up it could be worse. I'm supposed to use others having it worse then me to feel better? What fuckin place is dis

 

[ForestGhost]

This was a lovely read I agree with every damn word you said, if you ever needed someone to vent to or talk with I'd love to listen, lmk if you have discord
Everything you said fit perfect to a T , made me cry thinking about how people have to try and find sites like this so they don't feel alone and they're trying to find easy methods to leave peacefully because the pro lifers that care so much about us force us to stay and don't get euthanisa . So they can put their dog down, any other animals down peacefully but when it's human it's a no? Fucking insane fuckers. Pisses me off that these submissive Stockholm syndrome that love their abusers (peasants to those they keep in power for no reason) folk try to force that shit down our throat too. Just because they have low standards and low this shit hole doesn't mean we are the same. If they love this life so much I wish they'd mind their fucking business' and let us talk and do what we please in our spaces because for FUCK SAKES the whole world is there echo chamber. Humans try so hard to make reality look like it's not as sadistic as it is but I see through their lies. I see all the suffering and hear all the lost screams of the innocent. Like I always get gaslighted shit I'm not allowed to dare say I hate it here , they're fucking nuts they just say that's life get over it. Stop being so negative. Gee others have it worse then you lighten up it could be worse. I'm supposed to use others having it worse then me to feel better? What fuckin place is dis

I agree with your sentiments and the OP's, but just wanted to let you know (based on your first sentence) that TragedyBornCrimson CTBed yesterday.

 

[Judah]

Pro-lifers want you alive but will do everything possible to make you want to stop being alive.

 

[Yume Nikki]

We live in a world where if you're born unattractive, poor, disabled physically or mentally, part of a marginalized group, or with lack of parental support, your fucked either way. It'll be insanely difficult to fit into society's standards of what a normal life looks life because most of the time, those people never get to experience those things due to their circumstances, and we're all just expected to shrug it off as if nothing is happening to them. You're either born lucky or unlucky, no other way to look at it. Nature is just as cruel to humans as it is to animals.

 

[Overwhelmed52]

This was a beautifully written post and explained things so well.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

This was a beautifully written post and explained things so well.

This ^