PSA - Do not test-ingest SN

[Dante_]

As users are aware, this platform advocates for personal bodily autonomy and supports individuals' rational choices regarding how they wish to live or die.
However, there have been recent posts from users who have been "testing" their sodium nitrite (SN) supply—not for the purpose of an actual attempt, but to observe how SN affects them at low doses.

Do not do this!.

SN can be lethal in quantities as low as 1 gram, and there are documented cases of individuals who have unintentionally ended their lives prematurely as a result of their decision to test or experiment with it.
There are already numerous threads that describe in detail what to expect when taking SN. We strongly encourage you to refer to those for research purposes rather than conducting personal experiments.
Here are some examples of users who tested SN:

- Ice Tea 15 consumed a specific amount mixed with cola and still ended up in the hospital.

- Grosz, another user took a small dose and experienced severe symptoms.

- Sadworld impulsively tasted "a tiny sip" of SN, reported experiencing symptoms, and was never heard from again.

All subsequent examples (including a few others), including a medical case of a fatality from a low dose, will be linked below.

If you identify as an impulsive person, it is highly recommended that you store your SN in a location that is not easily accessible.
Some individuals choose to keep their SN :
- At second location they must travel to
- Inside two or three locked containers
- In a physically high or hard-to-reach place

These strategies are intended to give you time to calm down or reconsider your decision before gaining access to your supply.

While the choice ultimately belongs to you, it is critically important to keep yourself safe until you are capable of making fully rational decisions and to avoid accidents or outcomes that cannot be undone. Please do not take this message for granted, as this is not the first time this has been discussed. Going forward, I hope threads like this become less common where users are warned not to but ingest it anyway. All in all, the consequences are always best avoided by NOT engaging your own curiosity.

If you have tested/ingested SN and are currently experiencing symptoms, please contact emergency medical services immediately. It is imperative that you do so for your own safety and, most important of all, your well-being.

1. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-feeling.153022/#post-2366248
2. https://sanctionedsuicide.site/threads/testing-sn-how-to-get-to-hospital-fast.74903/
3. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/my-experience-with-sodium-nitrite.102940/
4. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/search/2009605/?c[users]=Sadworld&o=relevance
5. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/tried-sn-still-here.29439/
6. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/i-tested-and-tried-sn.120208/
7. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/i-finally-attempted-and-it-worked.151285/
8. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/just-had-a-tiny-sip-of-sn-thoughts.201433/
9. Medical article : https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2271282/

There is, of course, also the option of disposing of your SN entirely if you find that you cannot trust yourself with it. However, it is understood that for some individuals, simply possessing their chosen method provides a sense of control.

 

[Amarajoy]

"Grosz, another user took a small dose and experienced severe symptoms."

Reading this is giving me anxiety. I'm already anxious about taking sn abd I won't be taking a small dose. If people are getting severe symptoms at small dose it must be excruciating at higher dose. What are these severe symptoms?

 

[Forever Sleep]

I'm glad a thread like this has been reintroduced to the stickies. While I obviously also respect autonomy, I always wince at the SN trial run posts.

In a way, to an already suicidal person, I think accidental death wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen. I'd be more nervous about panicking and ringing emergency services which would then flag their attention. Plus, any negative health consequences. People do often seem to recover well but it just seems like such a risk to me. Seeing as this is a substance that affects oxygen supply to major organs- it seems better not to mess about with it until we're sure.

I guess, I can understand wanting to have some guage on the taste and the effects. I wonder how close say a 2g test is to a 25g attempt though anyway.

Thanks for posting this.

 

[TurboCharcha]

I agree. There's no reason to do this. Besides, if you can get hold of SN you can get nitrite testing kits to test it.

 

[RadiantNumber]

This is why this method scares me

 

[Dante_]

This is why this method scares me

This thread is primarily about posts regardless users who've ingested small amounts of SN as a trial run. While I understand your fear, I hope this thread could at least prove useful from a standpoint of understanding the risks of doing this and avoiding it altogether.

 

[gothbird]

Thank you for taking the time to write this, Dante! It really means a lot, especially in a space like this where people walk the line between planning and impulse. It's easy to forget how dangerous curiosity can be with something like SN.

 

[Michi_Violeta]

I'm glad a thread like this has been reintroduced to the stickies. While I obviously also respect autonomy, I always wince at the SN trial run posts.

In a way, to an already suicidal person, I think accidental death wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen. I'd be more nervous about panicking and ringing emergency services which would then flag their attention. Plus, any negative health consequences. People do often seem to recover well but it just seems like such a risk to me. Seeing as this is a substance that affects oxygen supply to major organs- it seems better not to mess about with it until we're sure.

I guess, I can understand wanting to have some guage on the taste and the effects. I wonder how close say a 2g test is to a 25g attempt though anyway.

Thanks for posting this.

That's the thing: a 2g test would still be very risky and potentially lethal, but much slower and certainly uncomfortable. We're dealing with a very strong chemical that has an effect even in minuscule quantities and that's why using it for suicidal gestures/partial attempts/trial runs isn't advised.

One of those things that when its time to do you just have to full send it, it seems

It's exactly like that. Anything less than a complete protocol with a full dose and proper accompanying drugs will be a very uncomfortable and could lead to landing on an ER or dying when you're not fully convinced yet.

 

[slightoverlooked]

i was just thinking about doing this and 2 minutes later i saw this thread…thank you ig

 

[encore]

amazing advice on keeping something like SN in a separate location when you have the possibility to. my one worry with purchasing a ctb method is using it impulsively, and this might be the solution i was looking for

 

[NearlyIrrelevantCake]

If you worry you'll impulsively ingest SN, I suggest looking into a K-Safe. It's a small locking box that will only unlock after a certain time has passed--you can set it for hours later, days, etc. They're cheap, maybe $20 or $30.

 

[eternallyluna]

"Grosz, another user took a small dose and experienced severe symptoms."

Reading this is giving me anxiety. I'm already anxious about taking sn abd I won't be taking a small dose. If people are getting severe symptoms at small dose it must be excruciating at higher dose. What are these severe symptoms?

I found the thread where Grosz recounts their experience: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/my-experience-with-sodium-nitrite.102940/

Grosz described it as "not that terrible"

Hopefully things brings you some comfort. I would also recommend reading through all of the links in this post, as I did so and it brought me comfort.

Good luck and I hope this helps you feel better!

 

[Michi_Violeta]

"Grosz, another user took a small dose and experienced severe symptoms."

Reading this is giving me anxiety. I'm already anxious about taking sn abd I won't be taking a small dose. If people are getting severe symptoms at small dose it must be excruciating at higher dose. What are these severe symptoms?

There's a big difference between taking a small dose and the one recommended for an effective SN protocol. With a small dose you get the symptoms, but they will last longer before progressing to actual death: it's a risk, they may pass like in my case or may lead to an accidental death. Look at it this way, you're not taking enough SN to cause a rapid and effective death, but you're still taking enough SN to feel the discomfort that you wouldn't feel with a higher dose because you'd be dead already. That's what makes it uncomfortable, though not necessarily excruciating: you're faux-poisoning yourself, you get to feel the poison but not its end result.

 

[fadinggirl]

This is why this method scares me

because a small amount can be lethal? isnt that why its desirable?

 

[Sk3le]

Do the Blood test if you wanna test

 

[Amarajoy]

There's a big difference between taking a small dose and the one recommended for an effective SN protocol. With a small dose you get the symptoms, but they will last longer before progressing to actual death: it's a risk, they may pass like in my case or may lead to an accidental death. Look at it this way, you're not taking enough SN to cause a rapid and effective death, but you're still taking enough SN to feel the discomfort that you wouldn't feel with a higher dose because you'd be dead already. That's what makes it uncomfortable, though not necessarily excruciating: you're faux-poisoning yourself, you get to feel the poison but not its end result.

Thank you for this.

I found the thread where Grosz recounts their experience: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/my-experience-with-sodium-nitrite.102940/

Grosz described it as "not that terrible"

Hopefully things brings you some comfort. I would also recommend reading through all of the links in this post, as I did so and it brought me comfort.

Good luck and I hope this helps you feel better!

Thank you

 

[RadiantNumber]

because a small amount can be lethal? isnt that why its desirable?

Yes but I am talking about what effects they have after taking this small doses

 

[gothbird]

If you're looking to conduct a dry run of the SN protocol without using SN itself, here is a little thing I put together for myself. I thought I'd share. A test run can help mentally and physically prepare, reduce anxiety, and ensure confidence without any risk. Below is a simulated protocol using safe, household alternatives that replicate the experience as closely as possible. I am going to do in the next few days in my lead up to passing.

1. Fasting (Optional in the test but a must on the day):
Begin with a 12–15 hour fast (or whatever you're doing), just as you would with the actual protocol. This gives you a realistic baseline for how your body might feel both physically and emotionally in a real attempt.

2. Antacid:
Take your chosen antacid as you would during the real protocol. If using a PPI, take it the night before and again the morning. This helps you understand its timing and effect on your stomach.

3. Antiemetic (AE):
Take the antiemetic you plan to use on the day. For example:

• 10–20mg metoclopramide.

This will allow you to observe whether you experience side effects like dizziness, sedation, or tummy changes. Some people find metoclopramide stimulating or uncomfortable; it's worth knowing that ahead of time so you don't freak out.

4. Alternative SN solution:
Mix a small glass of warm saline water to mimic the appearance, taste, and volume of SN:

• 50ml of warm water
• 1.5–2 teaspoons of non-iodised salt
• Optional: add a drop of iron supplement or a dash of bicarb for that slight metally taste.

It won't be exact, but it will be close enough to reproduce a similar taste, thickness, and saltiness of SN solution. Though, I've heard literally nothing can prepare you for how salty SN is haha.

Do not drink this entire mixture in one go if you're unsure how you'll tolerate it, sip cautiously. It's not the SN. The goal here is not to make yourself ill, only to familiarise yourself with the sensation.

5. Sedative / Painkiller (Optional in the test but once again good to see how you feel):
If you plan to take something like zopiclone, diazepam, or a painkiller as part of your protocol, you may test this too at a reduced dose to see how your cognition and mood are affected. Make sure to do this only in a safe space and if it's medically appropriate.

6. Simulate timing and environment:
Once you've taken the fake SN, go through the motions.

• Set a timer for 15–20 minutes.
• Lie down in the position you plan to use.
• Observe your own emotions, physical sensations, and environment.
• Take note of what felt rushed, uncomfortable, or uncertain.

7. Write down your thoughts:

• Did I forget anything?
• Did the environment feel right?
• Was I calm, nervous, detached?
• Did the physical sensations cause panic or nausea?

Then clean up. Wash your glass, dispose of the saltwater, and restore any medications. This part may seem minor, but it helps me with calming down. Good luck friends!

 

[EmptyBottle]

some scholarly article mentioned someone died after 0.7g of SN, though someone (with fast enough treatment) survived 21g. No idea whether a semi risky (but less than lethal dose) would just cause lowered body temperature and reduced consciousness though.

Edit: non lethal doses can still cause severe symptoms (according to OP's info):

- Grosz, another user took a small dose and experienced severe symptoms.

 

[icetea15]

- Ice Tea 15 consumed a specific amount mixed with cola and still ended up in the hospital.

Hey, thanks a lot for your important post, which also serves as a "warning" to others. And thanks for linking to my thread as well, where I shared my experience with exactly 2g SN. :)

 

[Dante_]

Hey, thanks a lot for your important post, which also serves as a "warning" to others. And thanks for linking to my thread as well, where I shared my experience with exactly 2g SN. :)

Ice tea? Wow, I'm surprised to see you around here. Couldn't believe it when I saw the notification the first time

 

[icetea15]

Yeah, I know – I've been away for quite a while, and a lot has happened since then. Clinical Ketamine infusions have changed my life in many ways :D
I haven't been around much, but I still hope my thread is more or less in line with our current understanding and still provides some value.

 

[opheliaoveragain]

@Dante_ fuckin ace job with this post. it's been needed.

 

[Dante_]

@Dante_ fuckin ace job with this post. it's been needed.

Appreciate it Ophelia

 

[SuckyCuckyDuck]

SN can be lethal in quantities as low as 1 gram, and there are documented cases of individuals who have unintentionally ended their lives prematurely as a result of their decision to test or experiment with it.

Another reason I'm glad I have a considerable amount of this thing. No way I'll see this crappy existence ever again if I decide to quit.

 

[pixi]

sadworld's story has stuck with me since I found out about it and was the first person to come to mind as soon as I read the title. it was so sad seeing them panic the whole time. I hope they knew how many people really cared, and still do care

 

[Apokryphiel]

Do not drink this entire mixture in one go if you're unsure how you'll tolerate it

Guess I should've finished reading before testing that out huh. I had to clean up quite the puddle from my floor. I hope I'll be able to stomach it when my time really does come.

 

[cotton]

No shit

 

[Valhala]

I found the thread where Grosz recounts their experience: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/my-experience-with-sodium-nitrite.102940/

Grosz described it as "not that terrible"

Hopefully things brings you some comfort. I would also recommend reading through all of the links in this post, as I did so and it brought me comfort.

Good luck and I hope this helps you feel better!

This post is just one more. in a series of evidence that individuals who claim to have swallowed 20 g of SN and survived without any medical help are telling the most common lie. If someone with only 2 g of SN and after induced vomiting had these symptoms, it is absolutely impossible for someone to consume and survive a 10 X larger dose (20 g of SN).

 

[ScarletTanager]

If you're looking to conduct a dry run of the SN protocol without using SN itself, here is a little thing I put together for myself. I thought I'd share. A test run can help mentally and physically prepare, reduce anxiety, and ensure confidence without any risk. Below is a simulated protocol using safe, household alternatives that replicate the experience as closely as possible. I am going to do in the next few days in my lead up to passing.

1. Fasting (Optional in the test but a must on the day):
Begin with a 12–15 hour fast (or whatever you're doing), just as you would with the actual protocol. This gives you a realistic baseline for how your body might feel both physically and emotionally in a real attempt.

2. Antacid:
Take your chosen antacid as you would during the real protocol. If using a PPI, take it the night before and again the morning. This helps you understand its timing and effect on your stomach.

3. Antiemetic (AE):
Take the antiemetic you plan to use on the day. For example:

• 10–20mg metoclopramide.

This will allow you to observe whether you experience side effects like dizziness, sedation, or tummy changes. Some people find metoclopramide stimulating or uncomfortable; it's worth knowing that ahead of time so you don't freak out.

4. Alternative SN solution:
Mix a small glass of warm saline water to mimic the appearance, taste, and volume of SN:

• 50ml of warm water
• 1.5–2 teaspoons of non-iodised salt
• Optional: add a drop of iron supplement or a dash of bicarb for that slight metally taste.

It won't be exact, but it will be close enough to reproduce a similar taste, thickness, and saltiness of SN solution. Though, I've heard literally nothing can prepare you for how salty SN is haha.

Do not drink this entire mixture in one go if you're unsure how you'll tolerate it, sip cautiously. It's not the SN. The goal here is not to make yourself ill, only to familiarise yourself with the sensation.

5. Sedative / Painkiller (Optional in the test but once again good to see how you feel):
If you plan to take something like zopiclone, diazepam, or a painkiller as part of your protocol, you may test this too at a reduced dose to see how your cognition and mood are affected. Make sure to do this only in a safe space and if it's medically appropriate.

6. Simulate timing and environment:
Once you've taken the fake SN, go through the motions.

• Set a timer for 15–20 minutes.
• Lie down in the position you plan to use.
• Observe your own emotions, physical sensations, and environment.
• Take note of what felt rushed, uncomfortable, or uncertain.

7. Write down your thoughts:

• Did I forget anything?
• Did the environment feel right?
• Was I calm, nervous, detached?
• Did the physical sensations cause panic or nausea?

Then clean up. Wash your glass, dispose of the saltwater, and restore any medications. This part may seem minor, but it helps me with calming down. Good luck friends!

But the physical sensation will not be the same. Overdosing on regular table salt gives different physiological side effects than NaNO2 poisoning. The two are not comparable and rather than running through such a test it seems like 0.5 g sodium nitrite would make more sense. Too much table salt might make someone twitchy and have very unnatural and pinch sensations, so it is not the same. Maybe for a salty taste, but still kind of a weird thing to do.