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"That's what happens when someone who loves you betrays you. Right, so imagine that like the world is complicated beyond comprehension. You only see a very little bit of it and the way you structure your understanding is you make assumptions about things, and they're simplifying assumptions. So if you trust someone you reduce their complexity massively, right. Because like let's say we were married. Then there's a whole bunch of ways that you're going to act that are going to be simpler. Okay, so then I can tolerate being around you in some sense because you're not everything at once. Now those simplifying structures are hierarchically assembled and some of them are far more important than others. Trust is one of them, especially trust in loved ones, family members, which is why betrayal by a family member is really catastrophic because it, you know, it destabilizes your past, right - all the memories you have, it destabilizes your present, it destabilizes your future. It shakes your faith in human beings including yourself. And everything collapses. And that's an ego death. And so, now underneath the ego death, as far as Jung was concerned, was another structure that he called the "self". And the "self" is the thing that remains constant across ego deaths, but it's, it's...deeper and less personal, it's archetypal. And it's the thing that the ego collapses into when it collapses and then that rebuilds the ego. Something like that, across time. Now there's variants of that because you can have a voluntary or involuntary ego death, and a voluntary ego death is when you learn a bunch and you're willing to let go. So that would be your own emulation, it's like you're a Phoenix and your lighting yourself on fire. That's a much better idea even though it can still be really harsh. The involuntary ego deaths, they're really hard on people. People will do almost anything to stop that from happening, which is partly why they fight to maintain their group fostered axiomatic simplifications. It's not surprising because it's very, you lose your like...that ego death is a journey into the underworld or it's a collapse into chaos. And that's not so bad if you do it purposefully,..."

"In Dante's Inferno when he outlined the levels of Hell,... ... something absolutely the worst at the bottom Dante believed that it was betrayal and I believe he was right..."

"I thought I was at home but I'm not, I'm in a house and it's full of strangers and I don't know what I'm going to do tomorrow or next week or next year. It's like all of that certainty, that inhabitable certainty collapses right back into the potential from which it emerged and that's a terrifying thing."

"No matter how carefully you construct a little habitable area that's around you there's always something you didn't take into account and there's always something that can pop up its head and do you in and make you aware of your mortality and age you for that matter or even kill you and that's the permanent situation of life."

-Jordan Peterson (I don't follow the guy, don't know him, but this was mucho relateable)
((transcribed from youtube videos))

Ego functions: perception of the external world, self-awareness, problem solving, control of motor functions, adaptation to reality, memory, reconciliation of conflicting impulses and ideas, and regulation of affect.
 
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Very informative and well written
 
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Thanks for this. It really resonates with me at the moment, recently I confronted a lot of stuff on a low low dose of mushrooms, and this was all basically the theme.
 
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I'm so glad someone finds it helpful
 
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