Quantum Immortality (Quantum Suicide)

[SuperioS]

I came up with a theory a few months ago and yesterday I saw that this theory I'd come up with already existed and had a name.

For those who don't know what I'm talking about, quantum immortality (quantum suicide) is the theory that when you die (for example, from a car crash or in our case suicide), at that point the universe splits in 2 separate universes and you die and live at the same moment and your consciousness shifts from the universe where you died to the other universe where you lived.

imagine this, you and your family just went on a road trip to wherever. but your dad is so tired that he crashes the car. boom, at this point the universe splits in tow and in one you died and the other one you lived but you entire family just died. perfect, you think to yourself, and you go home alone because no one's there to go with you. then you don't see another reason to keep on going because anyone in your family just died horribly. so you get the gun out of your dads drawer and shoot. boom again the universe splits into 2. in one you just died, congratulations, but your consciousness shifts from that point in to the second one because in that universe the gun had a loading hammering. God damn it you think, so you go get a chair and some rope. you stood there and blah blah blah you know the rest and then the universe splits in to. you survive and live and you always survive at the end. And that thought is so scary

so, is it real or not? the short awnser is we have no idea because you can't really test it. imagine we get a guy to test it. get him a gun and tell to shoot himself. he did it and he died. so it's not true?... that's the problem because he could die in our universe but his consciousness shifts into another universe that's the problem.
you could've already done it but maybe you're just unlucky... who knows

I do not want to insult anyone with this post this is just my thought on this theory and nothing I said could be correct ot incorrect.

 

[Darkover]

Consciousness depend on the brain, and if the brain ceases to function, there's no reason to think it would continue in another universe.
life doesn't continue on after death when we die that the end of that lifetime

 

[SuperioS]

Consciousness depend on the brain

How would one know? I can only speak from my own experience, from how many times I've tried and failed.

I mean, I don't really know if the theory is correct, but it's just a thought experiment.

 

[사람이 없어]

It would be funny if this is a game, and upon dying you get a table of choices you made and the alternatives you could've made and their outcomes thereafter. Like a visual novel of sorts.

 

[SuperioS]

It would be funny if this is a game, and upon dying you get a table of choices you made and the alternatives you could've made and their outcomes thereafter. Like a visual novel of sorts.

Then imagine playing through this and if you done with everything then you just die or whatever

That'd be so great

 

[Darkover]

How would one know? I

Consciousness is tied to the physical brain, and once the brain stops functioning, there's no reason to think it would "jump" to another universe. The Many-Worlds Interpretation might suggest that alternate versions of you exist in different timelines, but that doesn't mean your consciousness moves between them—it's just that in some universes, different versions of you already exist, making different choices.


Quantum immortality assumes that "you" are somehow separate from your brain, which isn't supported by neuroscience. When your brain dies, your conscious experience ends—just like before you were born. So, even if infinite versions of you exist in parallel universes, that doesn't mean you get to experience them all.


It's an interesting idea, but like i said, when we die, that's the end of our lifetime.

 

[SovietSuicide]

Consciousness is tied to the physical brain, and once the brain stops functioning, there's no reason to think it would "jump" to another universe. The Many-Worlds Interpretation might suggest that alternate versions of you exist in different timelines, but that doesn't mean your consciousness moves between them—it's just that in some universes, different versions of you already exist, making different choices.


Quantum immortality assumes that "you" are somehow separate from your brain, which isn't supported by neuroscience. When your brain dies, your conscious experience ends—just like before you were born. So, even if infinite versions of you exist in parallel universes, that doesn't mean you get to experience them all.


It's an interesting idea, but like i said, when we die, that's the end of our lifetime.

If you is entirely comprised of the atomic structure of your brain then what is more likely?

A) The universe conspired to construct your brain in a vacuum and your brain is hallucinating

B) The universe conspired to construct all of known space-time, an infinitely more complex feat (to the power of a number so high I probably couldn't even write it here)

Boltzmann brain

 

[sskyle1999]

Consciousness depend on the brain, and if the brain ceases to function, there's no reason to think it would continue in another universe.
life doesn't continue on after death when we die that the end of that lifetime

The idea that conciousness depends on the brain is completely hogwash, quantum physics research itself says otherwise even einstein himself said that consciousness had to be behind the operations of the universe and today all physicists researching the virtual reality theory have concluded that materialism is definitely wrong. U can look up out of body experiences and the declassified research that was done by the damn CIA on the matter, i mean i thought these ideas abt materialism have become really old school a long time ago

 

[Darkover]

The idea that conciousness depends on the brain is completely hogwash, quantum physics research itself says otherwise even einstein himself said that consciousness had to be behind the operations of the universe and today all physicists researching the virtual reality theory have concluded that materialism is definitely wrong. U can look up out of body experiences and the declassified research that was done by the damn CIA on the matter, i mean i thought these ideas abt materialism have become really old school a long time ago

The idea that consciousness does not depend on the brain is not supported by scientific evidence. All empirical findings point to consciousness being directly tied to brain function. Brain injuries, strokes, anesthesia, and degenerative diseases all alter or erase consciousness. If consciousness were independent, we wouldn't expect such direct correlations. Neuroscience can link specific thoughts, emotions, and experiences to brain activity using fMRI and EEG scans.


Quantum physics does not prove that consciousness exists outside the brain. The observer effect in quantum mechanics is often misunderstood—it doesn't mean consciousness creates reality. In quantum experiments, "observation" refers to measurement by any physical system, not necessarily a conscious mind. Prominent physicists, like Sean Carroll and Steven Weinberg, reject claims that quantum mechanics implies a non-material consciousness.

Einstein never argued that consciousness is behind the universe. He spoke about a sense of awe and mystery in nature, but he was a materialist who rejected mystical or supernatural explanations. The famous "God does not play dice" quote was about quantum mechanics' probabilistic nature, not about consciousness creating reality.

Some physicists, like Nick Bostrom and Tom Campbell, propose the simulation hypothesis, but this is not mainstream science—it's a philosophical speculation, not an empirical fact. Even if we lived in a simulated universe, that wouldn't disprove materialism—it would just mean the "material" world is digital rather than physical. Consciousness could still be a product of computations within that simulation.

Out-of-body experiences and near-death experiences can be induced through brain stimulation, oxygen deprivation, or drugs like ketamine. That suggests they are brain-generated, not proof of independent consciousness. The CIA's "Stargate Project" investigated psychic phenomena, but after decades of research, they failed to produce any scientifically valid results and shut the program down. Declassification does not mean endorsement—it just means the research was attempted.

There is no solid scientific evidence that consciousness exists separately from the brain. While quantum physics, virtual reality theories, and near-death experiences are fascinating topics, none of them conclusively prove materialism is wrong. Consciousness remains best explained as an emergent property of brain activity, based on current evidence.

 

[sskyle1999]

The idea that consciousness does not depend on the brain is not supported by scientific evidence. All empirical findings point to consciousness being directly tied to brain function. Brain injuries, strokes, anesthesia, and degenerative diseases all alter or erase consciousness. If consciousness were independent, we wouldn't expect such direct correlations. Neuroscience can link specific thoughts, emotions, and experiences to brain activity using fMRI and EEG scans.


Quantum physics does not prove that consciousness exists outside the brain. The observer effect in quantum mechanics is often misunderstood—it doesn't mean consciousness creates reality. In quantum experiments, "observation" refers to measurement by any physical system, not necessarily a conscious mind. Prominent physicists, like Sean Carroll and Steven Weinberg, reject claims that quantum mechanics implies a non-material consciousness.

Einstein never argued that consciousness is behind the universe. He spoke about a sense of awe and mystery in nature, but he was a materialist who rejected mystical or supernatural explanations. The famous "God does not play dice" quote was about quantum mechanics' probabilistic nature, not about consciousness creating reality.

Some physicists, like Nick Bostrom and Tom Campbell, propose the simulation hypothesis, but this is not mainstream science—it's a philosophical speculation, not an empirical fact. Even if we lived in a simulated universe, that wouldn't disprove materialism—it would just mean the "material" world is digital rather than physical. Consciousness could still be a product of computations within that simulation.

Out-of-body experiences and near-death experiences can be induced through brain stimulation, oxygen deprivation, or drugs like ketamine. That suggests they are brain-generated, not proof of independent consciousness. The CIA's "Stargate Project" investigated psychic phenomena, but after decades of research, they failed to produce any scientifically valid results and shut the program down. Declassification does not mean endorsement—it just means the research was attempted.

There is no solid scientific evidence that consciousness exists separately from the brain. While quantum physics, virtual reality theories, and near-death experiences are fascinating topics, none of them conclusively prove materialism is wrong. Consciousness remains best explained as an emergent property of brain activity, based on current evidence.

Lol if a knocked out brain and a shut off nervous system are "responsible" for producing out of body experiences then i don't know how the hell would that work. By the way tom Campbell's research is done in a lab with people that developed the ability to go out of body and the guy who taught him how to do it was Robert monroe who was hired by the CIA who used his research and made many reports on it where some have been declassified nd just to be clear it isn't the CIA'S job to prove anything to the public but on the contrary there job is to keep things as intelligence secrets nd the idea here is that they are all about practicality so if they did something it means it's no joke nd they're not playing around they did that research for a reason nd it did bring them results, there is a declassified report that talks abt the monroe gateway process were they concluded that conciousness is fundamental so i don't know wht kind of proof materialist would like but i think they should be reasonable enough not to believe that the central intelligence agency engages in woo woo stuff for no reason.

 

[needthebus]

How would one know? I can only speak from my own experience, from how many times I've tried and failed.

I mean, I don't really know if the theory is correct, but it's just a thought experiment.

I believe it's real

After a certain # of improbable events, you may start to think it's true.

Unfortunately, it's not experimentally testable by others.

If scientist A tries to CTB 100 times, and keeps failing, and asks scientist B to try to ctb to prove quantum immortality, likely scientist A perceives scientist B to be dead whereas scientist A will perceive himself alive. Quantum immortality posits an infinite # of parellel realities, not just a split into 2

 

[Haematemesis]

brain works, alive and conscious
brain doesn't work, dead and unconscious

simple

 

[Shadow_]

There is no way to test this. There is no way of knowing. I don't believe in God, or the multiverse, as it is all unprovable and speculation, however, it could very well be that there is a spirit, something immeasurable, that goes to heaven, or hell, or another reality. Couldn't tell ya. Don't really see the point in contemplating it either.

 

[genie]

It's an interesting theory and may explain why my attempts to CTB in the past never succeeded, but it is just a theory. More likely that billions of years of evolution have made dying very hard to accomplish. Also remember the multiverse is still a theory. It's possible that this is the only universe.