robin williams and chester: i think i finally got a good understanding of how hanging works

[SufferingInDenmark]

i was confused for a very long time about the mechanism behind hangings. the thing that actually kills you.
but my understanding now is that what kills you is simply the lack of oxygen...
correct?

and i've learnt i should avoid the method of jumping from somewhere high with a noose around your neck,
as there apparently will be a lot of pain and other disadvantages.

i watched a lot of hanging videos available on here.
they don't all do it the exact same way.
some tie the rope in a way where it will keep strangling you,
and others just make a "circle" that doesn't tighten on your neck.

but they all did seem to die, except the ones that got SI or got found by someone just in time.

the ones i watched were full suspension hanging, from a ceiling fan or whatever similar thing...

i didn't watch any partial hanging videos.
correct me if i'm wrong on my definition of "partial hanging":
it's where you have the rope around your neck, and then you could for example tie it to a bunk bed,
and then you just lean down so it tightens around your neck,
and then it takes some seconds to knock you unconscious, DO I HAVE THAT RIGHT?

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i think that piece of shit kidnapper used that method in prison.
Ariel castro i think was his name.

 

[deadbidaylight]

You are correct. Partial hanging is when you are able to touch the ground. Full suspension speaks for itself. You die due to lack of oxygenated blood to the brain. Or suffocating if it's not done properly which is much more painful and distressing but still otherwise lethal.

Rest in peace, Chester

 

[SufferingInDenmark]

You are correct. Partial hanging is when you are able to touch the ground. Full suspension speaks for itself. You die due to lack of oxygenated blood to the brain. Or suffocating if it's not done properly which is much more painful and distressing but still otherwise lethal.

Rest in peace, Chester

that's fucking crazy tho, i would imagine the survival instinct would be off the chart.
so you literally just sit down until it tightens and then you wait to pass out.
and then it's game over after that.

did you ever personally see any sucessful partial hanging videos?
didn't one of Chester's friends do the exact same thing?
the guy who had the fitness bands around his neck, and he had connected them to the door.
like, he threw one part of the fitness bands over the door, then closed the door,
and put the other side of it around his neck.

 

[deadbidaylight]

that's fucking crazy tho, i would imagine the survival instinct would be off the chart.
so you literally just sit down until it tightens and then you wait to pass out.
and then it's game over after that.

did you ever personally see any sucessful partial hanging videos?
didn't one of Chester's friends do the exact same thing?
the guy who had the fitness bands around his neck, and he had connected them to the door.
like, he threw one part of the fitness bands over the door, then closed the door,
and put the other side of it around his neck.

Yes, Chris Cornell. He was the lead singer for Soundgarden and Audioslave. Chester actually CTB on Chris's birthday. He also sang Hallelujah at Chris's funeral and was his son's godfather. They were very close.

I've never seen any successful partial hanging videos before. I can't watch hanging videos anymore. They're too eerie and make me feel sick.

 

[Lo$t95]

i was confused for a very long time about the mechanism behind hangings. the thing that actually kills you.
but my understanding now is that what kills you is simply the lack of oxygen...
correct?

and i've learnt i should avoid the method of jumping from somewhere high with a noose around your neck,
as there apparently will be a lot of pain and other disadvantages.

i watched a lot of hanging videos available on here.
they don't all do it the exact same way.
some tie the rope in a way where it will keep strangling you,
and others just make a "circle" that doesn't tighten on your neck.

but they all did seem to die, except the ones that got SI or got found by someone just in time.

the ones i watched were full suspension hanging, from a ceiling fan or whatever similar thing...

i didn't watch any partial hanging videos.
correct me if i'm wrong on my definition of "partial hanging":
it's where you have the rope around your neck, and then you could for example tie it to a bunk bed,
and then you just lean down so it tightens around your neck,
and then it takes some seconds to knock you unconscious, DO I HAVE THAT RIGHT?

------------------

i think that piece of shit kidnapper used that method in prison.
Ariel castro i think was his name.

Cutting off the oxygen supply to your brain by compressing the carotid arteries in your neck. You lose consciousness in about 20 seconds if done right and then 25-30 minutes later you have CTB for good. I say "you" as a hypothetical - this is my method so thought I would clarify a bit. You don't "strangle" yourself as that is much more painful.

Hope that answers your question.

 

[Halfhourdays]

Cutting off the oxygen supply to your brain by compressing the carotid arteries in your neck. You lose consciousness in about 20 seconds if done right and then 25-30 minutes later you have CTB for good. I say "you" as a hypothetical - this is my method so thought I would clarify a bit. You don't "strangle" yourself as that is much more painful.

Hope that answers your question.

So you can breath and swallow during a partial hanging?

 

[deadbidaylight]

So you can breath and swallow during a partial hanging?

If done correctly, yes.

 

[Lo$t95]

So you can breath and swallow during a partial hanging?

I am only familiar with full suspension but I doubt that you can in partial because the rope needs to be tight not loose… if you can breathe you will be extending the process.

If I am wrong feel free to correct me.

If done correctly, yes.

Ok well this is the answer then ^

 

[SufferingInDenmark]

If done correctly, yes.

wait what? i'm even more confused now...
can someone explain this to me as if i was 8 years old?
i don't understand any science words,
and english isn't my first language.

so you can breathe and swallow during a partial hanging. that confuses me.
then how do you die if you're able to breathe?

i know someone already posted the answer in here, but just dumb it down for me.
no science words or anything like that

 

[locked*n*loaded]

You'll suffer if you cut-off your windpipe (trachea). Ideally, you only want to cut-off blood supply.

 

[SufferingInDenmark]

You'll suffer if you cut-off your windpipe (trachea). Ideally, you only want to cut-off blood supply.

so how do you manage to only cut off blood supply and not block your windpipe?

 

[ventingfrustrations]

yeah my first true attempt was with hanging it's what made me discover choking self harm 5 days clean but this weekend I'm thinking about doing it
Self harm not suicide

 

[Freebandzgang]

so how do you manage to only cut off blood supply and not block your windpipe?

For partial, you just need enough pressure to be able to pass out. This is not that much pressure if applied in the right location. You can easily breathe, swallow, talk, etc while falling unconscious. The main part is that once you are passed out you must sustain pressure for long enough to die.

 

[SufferingInDenmark]

For partial, you just need enough pressure to be able to pass out. This is not that much pressure if applied in the right location. You can easily breathe, swallow, talk, etc while falling unconscious. The main part is that once you are passed out you must sustain pressure for long enough to die.

my worry is that the rope would slip away from my carotid artery, since the carotid artery is a relatively small spot

 

[Freebandzgang]

my worry is that the rope would slip away from my carotid artery, since the carotid artery is a relatively small spot

The carotid artery runs down the whole neck. if you have a proper knot around your neck it wont slip away because it will tighten around your neck and squeeze it.The only things that matter are if you are able to make yourself pass out, and the position you are in after you are unconscious. You need to be able to have enough pressure on the neck to keep compressing the arteries.

 

[SufferingInDenmark]

The carotid artery runs down the whole neck. if you have a proper knot around your neck it wont slip away because it will tighten around your neck and squeeze it.The only things that matter are if you are able to make yourself pass out, and the position you are in after you are unconscious. You need to be able to have enough pressure on the neck to keep compressing the arteries.

it runs down the whole neck?
so that means it would still work if the rope was above my adams apple,
just as much as it would work if the rope was beneath my adams apple?

i saw somebody mentioning putting soap on the rope for other purposes, so i imagine it slipping would be a high possibility

 

[deadbidaylight]

it runs down the whole neck?
so that means it would still work if the rope was above my adams apple,
just as much as it would work if the rope was beneath my adams apple?

i saw somebody mentioning putting soap on the rope for other purposes, so i imagine it slipping would be a high possibility

Yes you can still compress your carotids whether the rope is above or below your Adams apple. Problem is if it's below, you're likely going to crush your windpipe= suffocation and prolonged unnecessary torture.

You could lubricate the rope with soap if you wanted to but i don't think it's necessary at all.

 

[Namelesa]

that's fucking crazy tho, i would imagine the survival instinct would be off the chart.
so you literally just sit down until it tightens and then you wait to pass out.
and then it's game over after that.

did you ever personally see any sucessful partial hanging videos?
didn't one of Chester's friends do the exact same thing?
the guy who had the fitness bands around his neck, and he had connected them to the door.
like, he threw one part of the fitness bands over the door, then closed the door,
and put the other side of it around his neck.

here are videos of successful attempts with partial hanging:

Collection of videos of successful partial suspension hanging attempts

I believe that people that come to the conclusion of hanging themselves full suspension have a phase in which they are into partial suspension, desperately trying to get it to work. So I decided to create a collection of successful partial suspension hanging attempts in video format, for...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[Freebandzgang]

so that means it would still work if the rope was above my adams apple,
just as much as it would work if the rope was beneath my adams apple?

Yes for partial it would work anywhere along the neck, there are spots that would be more comfortable for you and make you fall unconscious easier but it doesnt matter. Some people like it high up or lower down. When ive attempted i put it pretty high on my neck and right when i apply pressure (not that much) i immediately start feeling dizzy. No pain at all.

 

[SufferingInDenmark]

Yes you can still compress your carotids whether the rope is above or below your Adams apple. Problem is if it's below, you're likely going to crush your windpipe= suffocation and prolonged unnecessary torture.

You could lubricate the rope with soap if you wanted to but i don't think it's necessary at all.

so above the adams apple is best, youre saying, right?

i read a pretty long guide on it... but i mean, if somebody can succeed with it, with a dam fitness band, then it shouldn't be too difficult

Yes for partial it would work anywhere along the neck, there are spots that would be more comfortable for you and make you fall unconscious easier but it doesnt matter. Some people like it high up or lower down. When ive attempted i put it pretty high on my neck and right when i apply pressure (not that much) i immediately start feeling dizzy. No pain at all.

were you practicing those times? or did survival instinct kick in?
and did you have any feelings or things that happened besides dizziness?

 

[locked*n*loaded]

so how do you manage to only cut off blood supply and not block your windpipe?

First, I am NO expert. People put "something" in between the rope and the blood vessels so that the pressure only exerts there and not on the trachea.

 

[deadbidaylight]

so above the adams apple is best, youre saying, right?

i read a pretty long guide on it... but i mean, if somebody can succeed with it, with a dam fitness band, then it shouldn't be too difficult

were you practicing those times? or did survival instinct kick in?
and did you have any feelings or things that happened besides dizziness?

I think the amount of protocol on here and different peoples opinions make hanging out to be much harder than it really is. People have hung themselves with anything they can find. They've hung themselves without ever researching a second of it. People have hung themselves in the weirdest spots and they've all succeeded. There's a reason why it's such a popular and successful method. It's really not hard to do. I think a lot of us on here overthink it.

First, I am NO expert. People put "something" in between the rope and the blood vessels so that the pressure only exerts there and not on the trachea.

Yes I think I've seen people pad either side of the ligature to only compress the carotids. But it's not needed unless you want to obviously.

 

[Lo$t95]

so above the adams apple is best, youre saying, right?

i read a pretty long guide on it... but i mean, if somebody can succeed with it, with a dam fitness band, then it shouldn't be too difficult

were you practicing those times? or did survival instinct kick in?
and did you have any feelings or things that happened besides dizziness?

Look at the location of the external carotid artery and notice how they are more exposed than the rest of it which is protected by cartilage in the neck.

 

[SufferingInDenmark]

I think the amount of protocol on here and different peoples opinions make hanging out to be much harder than it really is. People have hung themselves with anything they can find. They've hung themselves without ever researching a second of it. People have hung themselves in the weirdest spots and they've all succeeded. There's a reason why it's such a popular and successful method. It's really not hard to do. I think a lot of us on here overthink it.

Yes I think I've seen people pad either side of the ligature to only compress the carotids. But it's not needed unless you want to obviously.

right. that's true.
i just don't wanna fail and end up a vegetable, in the worst case

Look at the location of the external carotid artery and notice how they are more exposed than the rest of it which is protected by cartilage in the neck. View attachment 162677

i see that. wow. that actually makes me feel a bit happier to see that.
so i know if ever i attempted it, there would be a higher chance of success.
but i only feel the blood pumping in the area near my adams apple...

so i get paranoid that that exact spot is the only spot that will work

 

[Lo$t95]

right. that's true.
i just don't wanna fail and end up a vegetable, in the worst case

i see that. wow. that actually makes me feel a bit happier to see that.
so i know if ever i attempted it, there would be a higher chance of success.
but i only feel the blood pumping in the area near my adams apple...

so i get paranoid that that exact spot is the only spot that will work

You and me both I am also scared shitless of it. That's why I was one of the obsessive research every specific detail people - AKA "overthinking it" as described above.

It's natural to be scared, CTB preparation is not easy mentally especially when you are still figuring out your method.

 

[SufferingInDenmark]

You and me both I am also scared shitless of it. That's why I was one of the obsessive research every specific detail people - AKA "overthinking it" as described above.

It's natural to be scared, CTB preparation is not easy mentally especially when you are still figuring out your method.

right. but tell me, is it normal to only feel the blood pumping in your carotid artery right around the adams apple area?
because with me, when i put a finger on that exact spot, i can easily feel the blood pumping.
but lower than that, and above that (way up high) i don't feel the blood pumping as much as around the adams apple

 

[Freebandzgang]

were you practicing those times? or did survival instinct kick in?
and did you have any feelings or things that happened besides dizziness?

I was trying for real. As i started to loose my vision my si kicked in and made me stand up, i didnt choose to :(

 

[Lo$t95]

right. but tell me, is it normal to only feel the blood pumping in your carotid artery right around the adams apple area?
because with me, when i put a finger on that exact spot, i can easily feel the blood pumping.
but lower than that, and above that (way up high) i don't feel the blood pumping as much as around the adams apple

Everyone's neck is different man/woman weight difference / body type etc so it's not something I can answer for you. Your body is your own so it's unique to you the exact spot that is exposed.

 

[Halfhourdays]

 

[Freebandzgang]

right. but tell me, is it normal to only feel the blood pumping in your carotid artery right around the adams apple area?
because with me, when i put a finger on that exact spot, i can easily feel the blood pumping.
but lower than that, and above that (way up high) i don't feel the blood pumping as much as around the adams apple

I can pretty clearly feel it at the top of my neck when looking up. Its different for different people