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Slava Ukraini.
Slava Ukraini.
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Not seeking any participation. (but no problem if there is) Will post everything here regarding the invasion of Ukraine.
Slava Ukraini.
Yeah there are few Putin trolls. I almost got banned cuz of them early MarchIs anyone in this forum pro-Russia or not pro-Ukraine in this conflict? I don't care about the war personally, I'm just curious if there is anyone with an "odd" opinion in here regarding this.
I'm also curious how many IDGAF about the subject as well.
Seriously? I've never seen a pro-Putin position taken here, obviously I'm willing to stand corrected, can you link the threads?Yeah there are few Putin trolls. I almost got banned cuz of them early March
All Ukrainians are Nazis bs is long thrown into the bin. Please leave this thread before I call you worse names.**trigger warning, this comment contains stuff about Ukrainian white supremacy. If you don't want to hear it, stop reading now**
I'm putting this here because this issue is one of the key points that Putin was supposedly trying to address when Russia invaded in Feb. So for that reason I feel like it's relevant to the RU/UA war thread. I'm aware of the OP's bias about all this and I know they will react badly but I don't care. FYI I'm not on any side of this, I hate war and I don't support either of these countries or their leaders over the other. I'm mentioning it also because there seems to be a sudden huge denial of this particular subject going on, and there have been many members on this site who deny this also, or have no clue so they take whatever popular position is pushed on them.
My guess is that by acknowledging the reality of Neo Nazi's in Ukraine, it comes across as insensitive to Ukrainian suffering, or that this somehow lends some sort of justification to Putin's regime, but I want to stress that I do not think so. It's simply a fact, and we can't all go and sweep known facts under the rug or deny them just because we are trying to show solidarity. My sympathies go out to all the people suffering because of this horrible war.
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So, my buddy gave me his password for the Disney channel. I just watched The Mandolorian and thought it was good, I can't seem to understand why everyone thinks Disney ruined Star Wars but there you go. I'm happy to hear opinions about this.
...Anyway.
Last night I just watched the white supremacy episode of Trafficked by Mariana van Zeller, where they go into Ukrainian Nazification with some detail. If anyone wants to learn more about the whole Ukraine Neo Nazi thing, they should give it a watch. Very interesting. I think it was released in January right before the war started.
It talks about Ukraine's reputation as a safe haven and 'global hub' for white supremacy, how racists from all over the world including the US travel there and are trained in combat, and how their government gave weapons and funding to a far-right fascist Neo Nazi paramilitary, and legitimised them.
I find it strange that Ukraine has been well known for quite some time as a country with a large Neo Nazi problem in comparison to other nations, but this fact has been suddenly hush-hushed since the war with Russia started. I'm not saying the majority of Ukraine is racist or anything, I'm sure most Ukrainians probably dislike those people who give Ukraine a bad name and ruin basically every soccer match- but the number of white supremacists and Neo Nazi's there is probably the highest in the world, and the level of power they have been allowed to wield is on par with the military of a small nation. In fact, that was all I knew about Ukraine before the war started, because I watched Ross Kemp's Ukrainian soccer Nazi's special and went to school with a guy who ended up becoming a skinhead and moving to Ukraine.
Yeah, so watch Trafficked with Mariana van Zeller. It's a good show!
Even if this is true, it still doesn't justify Putin's bullshit. Gonna invade the USA to "denazify" it. Lol I'd (almost) like to see him try. This Is no moral war on his part. He's only picking on Ukraine because he thought he could get away with it.**trigger warning, this comment contains stuff about Ukrainian white supremacy. If you don't want to hear it, stop reading now**
I'm putting this here because this issue is one of the key points that Putin was supposedly trying to address when Russia invaded in Feb. So for that reason I feel like it's relevant to the RU/UA war thread. I'm aware of the OP's bias about all this and I know they will react badly but I don't care. FYI I'm not on any side of this, I hate war and I don't support either of these countries or their leaders over the other. I'm mentioning it also because there seems to be a sudden huge denial of this particular subject going on, and there have been many members on this site who deny this also, or have no clue so they take whatever popular position is pushed on them.
My guess is that by acknowledging the reality of Neo Nazi's in Ukraine, it comes across as insensitive to Ukrainian suffering, or that this somehow lends some sort of justification to Putin's regime, but I want to stress that I do not think so. It's simply a fact, and we can't all go and sweep known facts under the rug or deny them just because we are trying to show solidarity. My sympathies go out to all the people suffering because of this horrible war.
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So, my buddy gave me his password for the Disney channel. I just watched The Mandolorian and thought it was good, I can't seem to understand why everyone thinks Disney ruined Star Wars but there you go. I'm happy to hear opinions about this.
...Anyway.
Last night I just watched the white supremacy episode of Trafficked by Mariana van Zeller, where they go into Ukrainian Nazification with some detail. If anyone wants to learn more about the whole Ukraine Neo Nazi thing, they should give it a watch. Very interesting. I think it was released in January right before the war started.
It talks about Ukraine's reputation as a safe haven and 'global hub' for white supremacy, how racists from all over the world including the US travel there and are trained in combat, and how the Ukrainian government gave weapons and funding to a far-right fascist Neo Nazi paramilitary, and legitimised them.
I find it strange that Ukraine has been well known for quite some time as a country with a large Neo Nazi problem in comparison to other nations, but this fact has been suddenly hush-hushed since the war with Russia started. I'm not saying the majority of Ukraine is racist or anything, I'm sure most Ukrainians probably dislike those people who give Ukraine a bad name and ruin basically every soccer match- but the number of white supremacists and Neo Nazi's there is probably the highest in the world, and the level of power they have been allowed to wield is on par with the military of a small nation. In fact, that was all I knew about Ukraine before the war started, because I watched Ross Kemp's Ukrainian soccer Nazi's special and went to school with a guy who ended up becoming a skinhead and moving to Ukraine.
Yeah, so watch Trafficked with Mariana van Zeller. It's a good show!
Yeah. I mean, it's not like Ukraine has tons of oil and poppy fields like Afghanistan or something.it still doesn't justify Putin's bullshit
eff off from my thread, last warningYeah. I mean, it's not like Ukraine has tons of oil and poppy fields like Afghanistan or something.
Did you watch the episode? Season 2 episode 6 I think.
Why? I haven't done anything wrong. I was just replying to someone tagging me. Plus I happen to agree with him.eff off from my thread, last warning
Eff off. You are not wanted here you freaking KKK supporter. Root for UA even more if they are Nazi, since you are an American Nazi it turns out, reading your sig below.Why? I haven't done anything wrong. I was just replying to someone tagging me. Plus I happen to agree with him.
FYI you don't get to decide who can and can't post in this thread, it's a public forum. And stop sending me DM's, I'm not reading them.
You can't keep telling people who can post and where, this is a public forum, once you've started a thread anyone can post in it.Eff off. You are not wanted here you freaking KKK supporter. Root for UA even more if they are Nazi, since you are an American Nazi it turns out, reading your sig below.
Do you remember @Snake of Eden ? he had a thread exclusively for himself, no one else posted in it. Sure I said I welcome contributions but the far right nut cases are pain in the ass.You can't keep telling people who can post and where, this is a public forum, once you've started a thread anyone can post in it.
Yeah nobody posted in it because literally nobody read that shit, that didn't mean he had the right to tell people they couldn't if they wanted to.Do you remember @Snake of Eden ? he had a thread exclusively for himself, no one else posted in it. Sure I said I welcome contributions but the far right nut cases are pain in the ass.
I wonder if the Crimea annexation didn't ruin everything for him as it made the diplomatic road impossible forever. Was it really inevitable that Russia would be isolated entirely? It just seems like their methods are stuck in the 20th century with no adaptation.I want to side with Russia to be the contrarian I'm always trying to be but overall its reasons to invade don't seem enough to warrant the magnitude of the move. I get it that pro-russians were being murdered in the zones in dispute and the democratic process to decide separation had become impossible but it still seems lacking as an excuse.
I can't understand how Putin says that he is trying to 'de-Nazify' Ukraine with a straight face. Absolutely ridiculous. I don't account that as an excuse, it's just a brain fart said with a serious countenance. Ridiculous.