Venting School is useless

[OhWellDerp321]

Modern day education is so useless and doesn't even prepare you for adult life.
Its probably hurts your development for adult life.

Everything from elementary school (and maybe a bit of highschool) onwards is useless. Here are a few examples:

SUBJECTS:

Math:
In school you learn y=mx+b. When the fuck have I needed to find x in real life?
In the real world, unless you are working in engineering, the only math you need is mental math. Which in North America, people completely suck at. Why? Because school doesn't emphasize the importance of it.

Gym:
In school gym is mandatory in most cases.
In the real world, you can stuff your fat ass with 50 big macs and no one will give a shit.

Second language:
In school, a second language is mandatory. But only up to a certain grade.
So whats the point? By the time I left high school, I already forgot literally everything about that language. Can't even remember how to say a full sentence.
And even if you did keep it up for a bit, its not like you can get a job with it. It order to get a job, you basically have to speak it as your native tounge or as a secondary language at home.

Science:
In your adult life, when the heck have I needed to pull out a microscope to examine a cell?

Music:
If you ain't a musician, Spotify is the only thing you will come to music as an adult.

History:
Your employer ain't gonna give a crap if you know who the 16th President of the United States is.


SCHOOL VS WORKPLACE:

Failing:
In school, you can fail and repeat grades as many times as you want.
In the workplace, you get fired for underperforming, you are done. Forget the company ever hiring you again.

Homework:
In school, you take projects homes to work on and can spend as much time as you would like on it.
In the workplace, LOL. Good luck if you can't complete your work load at work. You think your company is going to let you move their entire desktop pc for you to work on it at home? You think they will pay you extra hours to work more because you suck at your job and can't complete it on time?

Career Paths:
School makes it compulsory for you to take subjects in each catagory until the end of high school. Even in college they often make you take stupid compulsory classes like history course which have 0 useful knowledge for your workplace.
High school gives the false perception that "you have to take all these course because you don't know what your interests are because you are still young". When it reality, its total bs. In your final year of high school, you should know what you want to do. If you don't, its not like you can all of the sudden switch from being good at art, to becoming an expert at math. By this time, your brain has already developed to be good at a certain thing. You can't just switch how your brain works in one day and become good at something else.
Also, don't think if you fail at your career path as an adult you can just "switch career paths" because you took all those different subjects. That's not how it works. By the time you are in your adult years, you would have forgotten all of those subjects. You have financial commitments. You can't just drop everything and go back to school for 4 years.

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It's sad. I wish I knew earlier that school was a complete waste of time. Would have dropped out of college.
Nothing ever taught me how to apply for a mortgage, start a business, or how to buy a car. Actual useful stuff that school never taught.

 

[yaa]

Modern day education is so useless and doesn't even prepare you for adult life.
Its probably hurts your development for adult life.

Everything from elementary school (and maybe a bit of highschool) onwards is useless. Here are a few examples:

SUBJECTS:

Math:
In school you learn y=mx+b. When the fuck have I needed to find x in real life?
In the real world, unless you are working in engineering, the only math you need is mental math. Which in North America, people completely suck at. Why? Because school doesn't emphasize the importance of it.

Gym:
In school gym is mandatory in most cases.
In the real world, you can stuff your fat ass with 50 big macs and no one will give a shit.

Second language:
In school, a second language is mandatory. But only up to a certain grade.
So whats the point? By the time I left high school, I already forgot literally everything about that language. Can't even remember how to say a full sentence.
And even if you did keep it up for a bit, its not like you can get a job with it. It order to get a job, you basically have to speak it as your native tounge or as a secondary language at home.

Science:
In your adult life, when the heck have I needed to pull out a microscope to examine a cell?

Music:
If you ain't a musician, Spotify is the only thing you will come to music as an adult.

History:
Your employer ain't gonna give a crap if you know who the 16th President of the United States is.


SCHOOL VS WORKPLACE:

Failing:
In school, you can fail and repeat grades as many times as you want.
In the workplace, you get fired for underperforming, you are done. Forget the company ever hiring you again.

Homework:
In school, you take projects homes to work on and can spend as much time as you would like on it.
In the workplace, LOL. Good luck if you can't complete your work load at work. You think your company is going to let you move their entire desktop pc for you to work on it at home? You think they will pay you extra hours to work more because you suck at your job and can't complete it on time?

Career Paths:
School makes it compulsory for you to take subjects in each catagory until the end of high school. Even in college they often make you take stupid compulsory classes like history course which have 0 useful knowledge for your workplace.
High school gives the false perception that "you have to take all these course because you don't know what your interests are because you are still young". When it reality, its total bs. In your final year of high school, you should know what you want to do. If you don't, its not like you can all of the sudden switch from being good at art, to becoming an expert at math. By this time, your brain has already developed to be good at a certain thing. You can't just switch how your brain works in one day and become good at something else.
Also, don't think if you fail at your career path as an adult you can just "switch career paths" because you took all those different subjects. That's not how it works. By the time you are in your adult years, you would have forgotten all of those subjects. You have financial commitments. You can't just drop everything and go back to school for 4 years.

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It's sad. I wish I knew earlier that school was a complete waste of time. Would have dropped out of college.
Nothing ever taught me how to apply for a mortgage, start a business, or how to buy a car. Actual useful stuff that school never taught.

I cheated my way through I wish I could've dropped out too.. it's almost seen as a joke like.. it's unfortunate how many folk are delusional sending their kids to indoctrination center ..parents should know they aint learn shit about survival or about the real world from going to school.. and since it's mandatory by some ape fucks in suits they should raise their eyebrows and wonder what kind of system are they participating in. They want us to be slaves

 

[alienfreak]

I wish i never did any of it too. I put so much effort into getting top grades and going all through university but it was all useless. It only damaged me beyond belief. It is a prison-like system for creating obedient slaves, crushing individuality, and filtering out any undesirables. I feel that it mutilated my mind and i cant undo it even though i am aware of it.

 

[Namelesa]

For me school has just made my life worse especially with secondary school. People like me aren't emotionally made for most educational environments. I struggled to cope with the stressful, boring an tortuous work for long periods of time everyday. I was scared of what I would had to do everyday so that teachers didn't become angry or disappointed in me and could be able to get home as soon as possible. I feel like its lowered my tolerance for mental pain and now I can hardly deal with a little bit now. Only useful things I learned from it were some basic math and english and maybe enjoyed some of the art and cooking I did. Otherwise I feel like I just wasted my childhood and teenhood on it and have become forever mentally and emotionally weaker cus of it.

To be honest as I am writing this, I am starting to cry about how much suffering I went through with it. Why did young me had to go through that? Why do I still have to deal with the painful memories of it now? Why was I forced to go through such torture? WHY? AAAAAAAAAAA Why do I have to be forever scarred by it? AAAAAA

 

[alienfreak]

Why did young me had to go through that? Why do I still have to deal with the painful memories of it now? Why was I forced to go through such torture? WHY? AAAAAAAAAAA Why do I have to be forever scarred by it? AAAAAA

Yep, thoughts like this plague me everyday and i still have nightmares about it regularly even though im in my 30s.

 

[Namelesa]

Yep, thoughts like this plague me everyday and i still have nightmares about it regularly even though im in my 30s.

I also suffer with nightmares about it. I just wish I could escape from it but the memories and the nightmares of it still haunt me to this day.

 

[yowai]

It was kind of fun the first few years, then I couldn't do it with sitting there for 8 hours in place just listening to boring shit and loud kids any more, I stopped going there and to avoid court I started being homeschooled. They tried to convince me to go back there like other normal kids so I did in middle school and I immediately started getting bullied lol. I thought at least in work you'd get paid for all that wasted time. And I hated math so much I'm thinking of going to school again though, just one for learning pharmacy and technical stuff related to it so I can find any job at all that's not related to food industry or being a cashier :(
Also I just remembered that in history class you were required to remember like a 100 historical dates for some tests and it was so dumb! What's the point if you're going to forget it all in a month.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

I feel like your take lacks any nuance. For example, knowing a second language can actually be a huge asset when it comes to finding a job and can widen your choices. Improving knowledge on science is arguably something we need more of now than ever considering the growing issue with a lack of knowledge on that subject leading to people believing and doing stupid shit, like being anti-vaccine. Along with that, knowledge on music can deepen your appreciation for it. I don't think that I'd appreciate music as much as I do as now if it weren't for years of music classes and getting to play around with a variety of instruments.

Also, no. You brain isn't magically wired to only be good at that one certain thing. You can still learn. Learning is something that everyone is capable of throughout most of their life. My mom originally went into culinary arts but when she eventually decided to switch to social work it's not like she couldn't do that because "her brain is now wired for cooking". She was able to make the switch pretty easily despite those being two very different careers. Shit like this happens all the time. My math teacher from grade 12 went into math after discovering he had a love for it. He originally worked in something else (can't remember what it was) but is didn't stop him from from pursuing a career as a math teacher. My social psych teacher originally went to school for business (if I remember correctly) but that didn't stop him from switching to psychology and neuroscience.

School is meant to be a space where children are given room to be exposed to a variety of different subjects. While I do agree that there are issues with the school system and that there does need to be more emphasis on also preparing children for adulthood, brushing it off as a whole is just ignorant.

Putting all of the blame on school for your life being screwed up is dumb. At some point, it is, at least in part, your own fault. Plenty of people know how to pay mortgages, buy cars, and start businesses despite not having been taught to do so in school.

 

[Loaf of bread]

I see school as indoctrination into unfair work

Unpaid overtime (homework), insane work hours, overworking, stress. All that pizazz gets normalized in school so theyll grow up to accept that stuff in work

I remember being effectively antinatalist at age 8, as unborn people dont need to go to school

To be honest as I am writing this, I am starting to cry about how much suffering I went through with it. Why did young me had to go through that? Why do I still have to deal with the painful memories of it now? Why was I forced to go through such torture? WHY? AAAAAAAAAAA Why do I have to be forever scarred by it? AAAAAA

I have the same thoughts. I am so upset the suffering I went through for so long. Hopefully compulsary education gets abolished someday and UBI gets implemented, its awful

 

[alienfreak]

I feel like your take lacks any nuance. For example, knowing a second language can actually be a huge asset when it comes to finding a job and can widen your choices. Improving knowledge on science is arguably something we need more of now than ever considering the growing issue with a lack of knowledge on that subject leading to people believing and doing stupid shit, like being anti-vaccine. Along with that, knowledge on music can deepen your appreciation for it. I don't think that I'd appreciate music as much as I do as now if it weren't for years of music classes and getting to play around with a variety of instruments.

Also, no. You brain isn't magically wired to only be good at that one certain thing. You can still learn. Learning is something that everyone is capable of throughout most of their life. My mom originally went into culinary arts but when she eventually decided to switch to social work it's not like she couldn't do that because "her brain is now wired for cooking". She was able to make the switch pretty easily despite those being two very different careers. Shit like this happens all the time. My math teacher from grade 12 went into math after discovering he had a love for it. He originally worked in something else (can't remember what it was) but is didn't stop him from from pursuing a career as a math teacher. My social psych teacher originally went to school for business (if I remember correctly) but that didn't stop him from switching to psychology and neuroscience.

School is meant to be a space where children are given room to be exposed to a variety of different subjects. While I do agree that there are issues with the school system and that there does need to be more emphasis on also preparing children for adulthood, brushing it off as a whole is just ignorant.

Putting all of the blame on school for your life being screwed up is dumb. At some point, it is, at least in part, your own fault. Plenty of people know how to pay mortgages, buy cars, and start businesses despite not having been taught to do so in school.

I agree with most of what you wrote in theory, but the reality of the implementation of school means it doesn't achieve any of that, especially not in a healthy way, at least prior to university. I can't possibly imagine what sort of school music classes you had that could actually improve your appreciation of music. In my music classes i was forced - when i didnt want to be there - to do specific things with specific instruments and examined on it in front of 30 students, in a tiny claustrophobic room, given numeric grades based on my performance. Doing that to a shy child with an anxiety disorder of course left me with the opposite of an increased desire to be involved with music - all the creativity, self-expression, enjoyment that should be a part of music was stripped clean from it as though it was a process intentionally designed to destroy my relationship with music

 

[EvisceratedJester]

I agree with most of what you wrote in theory, but the reality of the implementation of school means it doesn't achieve any of that, especially not in a healthy way, at least prior to university. I can't possibly imagine what sort of school music classes you had that could actually improve your appreciation of music. In my music classes i was forced - when i didnt want to be there - to do specific things with specific instruments and examined on it in front of 30 students, in a tiny claustrophobic room, given numeric grades based on my performance. Doing that to a shy child with an anxiety disorder of course left me with the opposite of an increased desire to be involved with music - all the creativity, self-expression, enjoyment that should be a part of music was stripped clean from it as though it was a process intentionally designed to destroy my relationship with music

Yeah, you having an anxiety disorder isn't the education system's fault. If it was that bad then your parents should have gotten you an IEP.

 

[CTB Dream]

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[nogods4me]

Civilization is collapsing so now education only matters in direct relation to a job and consequently acquired social status in a supposed meritocracy. In which case all that matters now is engineering, computer science and finance. If you are good at those things or are born into extreme privilege or hit the genetic jackpot looks-wise or are very social, the future is probably bright. If not, you have come to the right place to find out what your next move should be. It's a grim but inescapable reality for so many. The ones that are able to go through with an early exit are the luckiest.

 

[OhWellDerp321]

I feel like your take lacks any nuance. For example, knowing a second language can actually be a huge asset when it comes to finding a job and can widen your choices. Improving knowledge on science is arguably something we need more of now than ever considering the growing issue with a lack of knowledge on that subject leading to people believing and doing stupid shit, like being anti-vaccine. Along with that, knowledge on music can deepen your appreciation for it. I don't think that I'd appreciate music as much as I do as now if it weren't for years of music classes and getting to play around with a variety of instruments.

Also, no. You brain isn't magically wired to only be good at that one certain thing. You can still learn. Learning is something that everyone is capable of throughout most of their life. My mom originally went into culinary arts but when she eventually decided to switch to social work it's not like she couldn't do that because "her brain is now wired for cooking". She was able to make the switch pretty easily despite those being two very different careers. Shit like this happens all the time. My math teacher from grade 12 went into math after discovering he had a love for it. He originally worked in something else (can't remember what it was) but is didn't stop him from from pursuing a career as a math teacher. My social psych teacher originally went to school for business (if I remember correctly) but that didn't stop him from switching to psychology and neuroscience.

School is meant to be a space where children are given room to be exposed to a variety of different subjects. While I do agree that there are issues with the school system and that there does need to be more emphasis on also preparing children for adulthood, brushing it off as a whole is just ignorant.

Putting all of the blame on school for your life being screwed up is dumb. At some point, it is, at least in part, your own fault. Plenty of people know how to pay mortgages, buy cars, and start businesses despite not having been taught to do so in school.

Knowing a second language helps. But not if you have no interest and are forced to take it. You are saying if you took one course in high school that you can find a job using that course on your resume?

"Improving knowledge on science is arguably something we need more of now than ever considering the growing issue with a lack of knowledge on that subject leading to people believing and doing stupid shit, like being anti-vaccine." You don't think those same people had to take science in school? They still ended up being anti-vax didn't they?

Deepening your appreciation has nothing to do with it being useful in real life. Again, do you plan on getting a job as a musician or artist? If not, then you can use Spotify and YouTube to appreciate your music. Don't need to be forced to take a class to appreciate something.
You don't need music classes to appreciate music. Did they ever teach you how to rap in music class? Probably not. People can still can listen to Eminem.

"You brain isn't magically wired to only be good at that one certain thing".
Why is your interpretation completely out of context? I said that "your brain has already developed to be good at a certain thing". It developes to be good at certain things. Career changes are possible. But not everyone can do it. Even if you are in your final year of high school and all of the sudden you wanted to switch career paths, there are certain courses that you are missing or have to retake to get better grades to get into college. The same goes for in college and after college.

"School is meant to be a space where children are given room to be exposed to a variety of different subjects. While I do agree that there are issues with the school system and that there does need to be more emphasis on also preparing children for adulthood, brushing it off as a whole is just ignorant."
^ As I mentioned, this was about it not preparing you for adult life.

"Putting all of the blame on school for your life being screwed up is dumb. At some point, it is, at least in part, your own fault. Plenty of people know how to pay mortgages, buy cars, and start businesses despite not having been taught to do so in school."
Who put all the blame on school? No one did. You assumed that yourself.
Plenty of people? Who? Bet you that if you ask most high school students (maybe even some college students) how to pay a mortgage or how much money you need to start a business that they wouldn't know.
Those people that learned how to pay mortgages, buy a car, and start businesses had to go through a lot of mistakes, and some don't even succeed or want to try because they have no idea where to start.
Had school taught us, they would be much better prepared.

 

[requiemforadream]

School taught me smoking and critical thinking. If i wouldn't go there I wouldn't know why government is my enemy. Besides it was waste of time. ;)