Discussion Scientifically accurate depression

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I don't know if this is off-topic, sorry if it isn't.

I've never been to any psyche doctors, so I have no idea of how normal the stuff that goes on in my head is. What does being depressed or clinically anxious feel like? This might sound rude or smth, but this is genuine curiosity.

Little edit: sorry for any grammar errors, I am ESL.

 

[sugarb]

Depression can feel like several things but generally it's as if the normal high and low of mood has been lowered on average and the highs have been sharply cut off. Emptiness, sadness, not taking pleasure in things that were previously enjoyed.

 

[gobble]

Depression can feel like several things but generally it's as if the normal high and low of mood has been lowered on average and the highs have been sharply cut off. Emptiness, sadness, not taking pleasure in things that were previously enjoyed.

Well I do feel kinda empty, like whatever I do is meaningless, even if enjoyable. I feel like I have no future. The reason I am very conflicted on that is this:
I was binging a nice mc modpack and when I went for a smoke break and thought about CTB, I kinda momentarily did not want to do it.
I guess it is because I had something nice to look forward to at that time, but does that really invalidate depression as a diagnosis?

 

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Well I do feel kinda empty, like whatever I do is meaningless, even if enjoyable. I feel like I have no future. The reason I am very conflicted on that is this:
I was binging a nice mc modpack and when I went for a smoke break and thought about CTB, I kinda momentarily did not want to do it.
I guess it is because I had something nice to look forward to at that time, but does that really invalidate depression as a diagnosis?

This most assuredly does not invalidate a diagnosis. Depression takes many forms, and even if someone is in a deep, prolonged, severe major depressive episode, it's still possible for them to experience bursts of happiness or enjoyment.

Besides clinical major depression, there is also "persistent depressive disorder" which is a long-term mild-to-moderate form of depression (a persistent low mood). Or there could be something else going on, where these depressive feelings could be secondary to a different/primary issue.

Your comments here combined with your suicidality and having found your way onto a suicide forum (of all places) seem to add up to a pretty big red flag suggesting it would be advisable to speak to a doctor at your earliest opportunity. It wouldn't hurt to get yourself evaluated, but it could hurt if you don't. The earlier you catch and treat depression, the better your chances of recovery.

 

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This most assuredly does not invalidate a diagnosis. Depression takes many forms, and even if someone is in a deep, prolonged, severe major depressive episode, it's still possible for them to experience bursts of happiness or enjoyment.

Besides clinical major depression, there is also "persistent depressive disorder" which is a long-term mild-to-moderate form of depression (a persistent low mood). Or there could be something else going on, where these depressive feelings could be secondary to a different/primary issue.

Your comments here combined with your suicidality and having found your way onto a suicide forum (of all places) seem to add up to a pretty big red flag suggesting it would be advisable to speak to a doctor at your earliest opportunity. It wouldn't hurt to get yourself evaluated, but it could hurt if you don't. The earlier you catch and treat depression, the better your chances of recovery.

Even if I successfully treat whatever this is, I'd have sift through an unbearable amount of problems. There's a massive debt, unresolved legal issues due to that debt, mandatory military service during a war, the fact that I am literally a big financial shackle on one of my family members and my inability to finish anything.

So yeah, I am not backing out, just want to know if it is depression or rationality taken to an extreme.

 

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Even if I successfully treat whatever this is, I'd have sift through an unbearable amount of problems. There's a massive debt, unresolved legal issues due to that debt, mandatory military service during a war, the fact that I am literally a big financial shackle on one of my family members and my inability to finish anything.

I am sorry that you are being failed so badly by external factors like this.

Personally, I am of the belief that as long as somebody is still alive, an amount of recovery or improvement is possible. Or at the very least, it's possible to reduce suffering.

What you're talking about here, though, is beyond my ability to advise/suggest things, etc. It's not that I think your situation is hopeless -- not at all. It's just that I'm not equipped or knowledgeable enough to make recommendations about the problems you're telling us here.

So yeah, I am not backing out, just want to know if it is depression or rationality taken to an extreme.

This isn't the most straight-forward topic to address, but let me see here...

This may be somewhat of a controversial topic, so I'll say "I believe" that if someone is thinking about suicide, then there is something inherently wrong -- that the desire to end one's own life is an indication that something is objectively wrong. Meaning, yes, there is going to be a diagnosis of some sort and a condition that requires treatment.

However, I also believe in an individual's choice to end their own life, and I believe governments should support this choice by offering the means for a peaceful exit.

So, no, suicide is not rational... But yes, there comes a point where it may become the rational choice... (Hopefully that's not overly paradoxical...)

Whether or not YOUR suicidality is "rational"? I'm not sure I could commit to a judgement on that, and even if I could, I wouldn't feel comfortable doing it. But I do think it's a sure sign that something's wrong and that, ideally, you would have access to treatment for whatever's causing it.

I do wish you as well as can be and hope you'll be able to find your way through this.

 

[gobble]

I am sorry that you are being failed so badly by external factors like this.

Personally, I am of the belief that as long as somebody is still alive, an amount of recovery or improvement is possible. Or at the very least, it's possible to reduce suffering.

What you're talking about here, though, is beyond my ability to advise/suggest things, etc. It's not that I think your situation is hopeless -- not at all. It's just that I'm not equipped or knowledgeable enough to make recommendations about the problems you're telling us here.


This isn't the most straight-forward topic to address, but let me see here...

This may be somewhat of a controversial topic, so I'll say "I believe" that if someone is thinking about suicide, then there is something inherently wrong -- that the desire to end one's own life is an indication that something is objectively wrong. Meaning, yes, there is going to be a diagnosis of some sort and a condition that requires treatment.

However, I also believe in an individual's choice to end their own life, and I believe governments should support this choice by offering the means for a peaceful exit.

So, no, suicidality is not rational... But yes, there comes a point where it may become the rational choice... (Hopefully that's not overly paradoxical...)

Whether or not YOUR suicidality is "rational"? I'm not sure I could commit to a judgement on that, and even if I could, I wouldn't feel comfortable doing it. But I do think it's a sure sign that something's wrong and that, ideally, you would have access to treatment for whatever's causing it.

I do wish you as well as can be and hope you'll be able to find your way through this.

Thank you for your kind words and acknowledgement.
Its kinda sad that the only website/community I feel a sense of belonging to is this one, but I am so glad this exists.

 

[Manfrotto99]

I think it can be very difficult to notice depression, it kind of creeps up on you slowly, sometimes without you noticing, then before you know it your engulfed in a very heavy all consuming bleakness that you might consider as normal, but it isn't. Its just that you have gotten so use to it.

I can only speak for myself and how depression and anxiety make me feel. There has been periods in my life when my situation has changed or looked like it would change. My depression has been diagnosed as mostly situational. At these times I could actually feel the heaviness leave and a general feeling of optimisism and hope take over. I no longer have the mood swings, fly off the handle and cry over little things. I can enjoy being around others and dont take things that upset me so personally.

My depression is very bad now, my thoughts are constantly always bleak, I ruminate and I wake up in the middle of the night crying and feeling an overwhelming heavy weight and feeling of hoplesness. I've lost interest in everything except exercise, but then again I've lost so much and the reminders are everywhere. I have anxiety attacks with shaking and trembling and difficult breathing much of the time.