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Is it better to use antacids with SN?

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    Votes: 3 42.9%
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  • I don't know

    Votes: 4 57.1%

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Placo

Placo

Life and Death
Feb 14, 2024
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As far as I understand, there is controversy at the moment regarding the use of antacids, while the various guides recommend it, the latest version of the PPEH advises against it and even on the forum I think that opinions are discordant, so I will also do a survey to better understand what users think.
 
Sbetto

Sbetto

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Dec 6, 2024
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Beyond what is stated in the PPEH or the "bible" of sodium nitrite, I've done some research and read that SN, once ingested, is mainly absorbed in the small intestine and partly in the stomach, where, thanks to the acidic pH, it can be converted into nitric oxide (NO). If an antacid is taken beforehand, the gastric pH increases, so SN will not be converted into NO in the stomach, and a greater amount will reach the small intestine, where it can be absorbed into the bloodstream.
 
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Placo

Placo

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Pantoprazole and Sodium Nitrite: Absorption and Efficacy

Pantoprazole Mechanism of Action

Pantoprazole is a proton pump inhibitor (PPI) that drastically reduces gastric acid secretion. It works by irreversibly blocking the enzyme H⁺/K⁺-ATPase (the "proton pump") on the parietal cells of the stomach, interrupting the final phase of hydrochloric acid production. The inhibition is dose-dependent and affects both basal and stimulated acid secretion. By reducing gastric acidity, pantoprazole alleviates the symptoms of acid hypersecretion (e.g. gastroesophageal reflux) and causes a compensatory increase in gastrin levels (a reversible phenomenon). The duration of the antisecretory effect is prolonged (up to ~24-48 hours) despite the short plasma half-life, since the proton pump remains inactive until new enzymes are synthesised.

Mechanism of action of Sodium Nitrite

Sodium nitrite (NaNO₂) is an inorganic salt with distinct pharmacological effects due to its conversion to reactive nitrogen compounds. In an acidic environment (such as gastric), nitrite is protonated to nitrous acid (HNO₂) which then decomposes to form nitric oxide (NO) and other nitrosylated derivatives. NO is a potent vasodilator: it diffuses into vascular smooth muscle inducing relaxation and therefore vasodilation with reduction of blood pressure. In addition, compounds such as S-nitrosothiols are generated from nitrite, which act as stable reservoirs of NO, contributing to cardiovascular benefits. Under systemic conditions (especially low oxygenation), nitrite can also be reduced to NO by enzymes and proteins (e.g. deoxyhemoglobin), promoting vasodilation in hypoxic areas. Another important mechanism of action of sodium nitrite, used in emergency therapy, is its ability to oxidize ferrous hemoglobin (Fe²⁺) to methemoglobin (Fe³⁺). Methemoglobin has a high affinity for cyanide and removes it from cellular oxidative cytochromes. Therefore, sodium nitrite is used as an antidote for cyanide poisoning, in combination with sodium thiosulfate: nitrite induces methemoglobinemia by sequestering cyanide, while thiosulfate promotes the conversion of cyanide to harmless thiocyanate. Note that high doses of nitrite can cause significant methemoglobinemia (by reducing oxygen transport) and marked hypotension, so medical use requires careful monitoring.

Effect of reduced gastric acidity on nitrite bioavailability

A reduction in gastric acidity induced by pantoprazole (or other antacids/antisecretory agents) may affect the activation and efficacy of oral sodium nitrite. Under normal conditions, the highly acidic gastric environment facilitates the chemical conversion of nitrite into nitric oxide and related compounds already in the stomach. If the gastric pH is elevated by a PPI, this process is partly inhibited. In other words, a higher gastric pH "interferes with the conversion of nitrite to NO" and reduces the production of NO from ingested nitrite. Consequently, the physiological effects of nitrite (e.g. vasodilatory and hypotensive effects) are expected to be decreased in the presence of pantoprazole.

It is important to distinguish between absorption into the blood (systemic bioavailability) and local bioactivation of nitrite. Evidence indicates that pantoprazole does not significantly impede nitrite absorption from the intestine: in one study, peak plasma levels of nitrite and its nitrated/nitrosylated metabolites after oral administration were comparable with and without pre-treatment with PPIs. This suggests that the systemic bioavailability of sodium nitrite (amount reaching the bloodstream) remains similar even with reduced gastric acidity.

However, reduced acidity hinders the gastric bioactivation of nitrite into NO: without a highly acidic environment, absorbed nitrite remains largely in the form of nitrite in the plasma, which alone has a much less vasodilatory effect than nitrite, which is readily converted into NO in the stomach. In practice, therefore, pantoprazole decreases the effectiveness of oral nitrite because it attenuates its transformation into the active ingredient (NO) responsible for the biological effects.

Scientific evidence on pantoprazole–nitrite interaction

Preclinical studies have clearly demonstrated the influence of gastric acidity on the effect of nitrite. For example, in a study on rats, the administration of omeprazole (a PPI) or ranitidine (an H₂ antagonist) before nitrite canceled the hypotensive effects of oral nitrite: the increase in gastric pH due to these drugs counteracted the ability of nitrite to generate NO, abolishing the usual reduction in blood pressure. This pH-dependent effect is attributed to the fact that much of the vasodilatory action of oral nitrite derives from gastric formation of NO/S-nitrosothiols, a process that is blocked if the stomach is not acidic enough. Consistently, an increase in blood pressure was observed in rats chronically treated with PPIs, suggesting a reduced availability of endogenous NO from dietary nitrite (a potential mechanism by which prolonged use of PPIs could contribute to hypertensive risk).

Clinical studies confirm these findings. A controlled crossover trial in healthy volunteers (Montenegro et al., 2017) evaluated the cardiovascular effects of oral nitrite with and without gastric acid suppression. Participants received oral sodium nitrite (0.3 mg/kg) after pretreatment with either placebo or esomeprazole (a PPI, 40 mg three times a day). The results are clear: after placebo, nitrite reduced systolic blood pressure by approximately 6 ± 1.3 mmHg, while after esomeprazole the hypotensive effect was practically abolished. It is important to underline that the plasma concentrations of nitrite and its metabolites (nitrates and nitroso derivatives) were similar in both cases. In other words, the PPI did not prevent nitrite from being absorbed and circulating in the blood, but prevented its effective "activation". A further experiment in the same study showed that intravenous infusions of nitrite (which bypass the stomach) at plasma concentrations similar to those obtained orally did not cause any drop in blood pressure. This indicates that nitrite itself, in circulation, does not significantly lower blood pressure unless it is transformed locally into NO (as instead occurs in the acidic stomach). The authors conclude that an acidic gastric environment is necessary for the acute hypotensive effect of oral nitrite. These scientific evidences support the idea that the reduction of gastric acidity by pantoprazole decreases the gastrointestinal conversion of nitrite into bioactive compounds, thus attenuating its systemic pharmacological effects without drastically altering the amount absorbed. In summary, the presence of acid in the stomach acts as a key catalyst to release nitric oxide from ingested nitrite, and drugs such as pantoprazole interfere with this step.

Practical advice on sequence and timing of administration

To optimize the absorption and especially the efficacy of oral sodium nitrite, it is advisable to avoid concomitant suppression of gastric acidity. In practice:
• Do not take pantoprazole immediately before (or together with) sodium nitrite. Pantoprazole takes 1-2 hours to inhibit the active pumps, but once activated the antisecretory effect lasts for many hours; taken before nitrite, it will reduce acidity just when nitrite reaches the stomach, hindering its conversion into NO.

• If possible, take sodium nitrite on an empty stomach, when the gastric environment is more acidic, and wait for it to be absorbed before taking a PPI. For example, it may be reasonable to take the nitrite early in the morning and delay the pantoprazole dose by a few hours, or to take the nitrite at a time apart from the pantoprazole dose (e.g. in the evening if the PPI is taken in the morning). However, it should be noted that the effect of pantoprazole is prolonged (a single dose inhibits acid secretion for ~24 hours), so even if the doses are separated by several hours, a high pH may persist.
• Discuss with your doctor the need for gastric protection versus the effect of nitrite: if nitrite therapy (e.g. for cardiovascular purposes) requires an acid environment to work, your doctor may want to consider alternatives. For example, temporarily stop or reduce the PPI during nitrite treatment, or use alternative antacids only as needed (such as buffer antacids or H2-antagonists) away from nitrite intake. (Note, however, that anti-H2 drugs such as ranitidine also increase gastric pH and may reduce nitrite activation, although for a shorter period than PPIs.)
• If pantoprazole is essential, monitor the response to sodium nitrite. Since the hypotensive effect may be attenuated, the doctor may need to adjust the nitrite dosage (within the limits of safety) or take alternative measures to achieve the desired effect. Never change the therapy on your own without consulting your doctor.

In conclusion, to maximize the functional bioavailability of sodium nitrite, it is preferable to administer it when the stomach is acidic. Preemptive administration of pantoprazole may reduce the conversion of nitrite to nitric oxide, decreasing the efficacy of nitrite without altering its plasma absorption. Therefore, the optimal sequence would be to avoid PPIs/antacids in the immediate period before nitrite; if pantoprazole is necessary, it should be taken after nitrite (or at another time of the day), taking into account the possible decrease in efficacy of nitrite. Careful planning of the timing of administration, under medical supervision, helps to optimize the therapeutic effect of sodium nitrite in the blood while minimizing pharmacological interference.

Sources: Clinical and preclinical studies on the interaction between gastric acidity and nitrites; guidelines and pharmacology texts for the mechanisms of action of pantoprazole and sodium nitrite. (See references).
 
ihatemyselfwanttodi

ihatemyselfwanttodi

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Jan 26, 2025
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This and propranolol are the two big question marks for me on my SN procedure. I've got both available to me, but do I use them?
 

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