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I have combined and added all the brief summary of all the attempts, assumed successful and unsuccessful, of SN suicide. These are all posts that the member has made to document the method, news articles, and scientific articles. If I have missed any I apologise and it would be great if you can add them to this thread.

SS ASSUMED SUCCESSFUL

iceiceice722: 20g, 48 hour regimen meto, antacid.

Stan: 20g in 50ml water, stat dose antiemetic Buccastem (prochlorperazine), 200mg tramadol, OTC antacid, fasted for at least 5 hours.

Moonicide: 25g in luke warm water drank through straw to help with taste, 48 hour regimen meto, 1000mg ibuprofen, 1000mg gabapentin, 800mg Tagamet, 8 hour fasting, throat and stomach burning afterward, pain rated 3.5/10, after 5 minutes needed to lay down, heart beating fast, feeling really warm but no pain, vomited twice, after 10 minutes breathing heavily, gasping for air, sounds like choking. After 10 minutes breathing slows down, leg spasms and grunting and loud groaning sounds. After 15 minutes vomits again, unconscious after 20 minutes. Witness did not think it was entirely peaceful.

Chat room: 25g, 72 hours regimen meto, 6 hour fast, ranitidine, tasted bad, burning throat, breathing slowly, 20 minutes after ingesting vomited violent, sounds indicated it became a very tough experience, horrible respiratory sounds, really distressing, don't know when she fell unconscious but we didn't talk anymore, 45 minutes after drinking she stopped breathing and dead (report from person who was on the telephone while someone took SN, could hear noises and groaning, did not think it was peaceful).

gambardella: 2 tablespoons in as little water as possible, 48 hour regimen with metopimazine, fasted for 8 hours, sleeping pills (doxylamine) 30 mins before the SN drink, 1000mg paracetamol but no antacids. Slight stomach discomfort and throat hurts a bit, heart beating super-fast!

MeltingHeart: 48 hour regimen with meto but missed out last triple dose, 2 parcetamol plus 1 Zantac, a few low dose benzos.

BPD-LE: 20g in 50ml water, stat dose of quetiapine, 8 hour fast, withdrew fluids 2 hours before SN, antacid 4 x Rennie.

metalchic_74: 27g, 8 hours fasting, stat dose 400 mg of quetiapine, 2-3mg Ativan, antacid Tagamet, 2 ibuprofen, fast heartbeat, dizzy.

Tearygirl: 25g, stat dose of 30mg meto, take painkiller and benzo 1 hour before, meto 45 mins before, and antacid 30 mins before, 1000mg Tylenol, 0.5mg lorazepam, 20mg famotidine.

Suicidal4Ever: 20 capsules, stat dose antiemetic, benzos. Neck and chest feel overfilled already from taking capsules.

Neverod: 20g in 75ml water, 48 hour meto regimen, 4 teaspoons magnesium milk, throat burns, drowsy.

Spiderman_32: 22g in 68g water, stat dose of 3 buccastem m (3mg).

trynacbt: 48 hour regimen meto, 400mg ibuprofen, 3mg Lexotan, 800mg Tagamet, slight burning at back of throat, fast heartbeat, some nausea, feel thirsty, really peaceful, feel sedated, limbs heavy, anxious, drowsy.

Kvothe_alThor: 20g, 48 hour regimen with meto, 300mg ranitidine, after 3 minutes fast heartbeat, feel dizzy but no pain.

shango: 15g, stat dose of 30mg meto, fasted all day, in a hotel.

EBEN30: SN and Omeprazole.

JordT: 20g in 50ml water, 48 hour regimen with meto, ranitidine, oxycodone, diazepam.

Bumblebee: 20g in 50ml water, 48 hour regimen with meto, ranitidine, oxycodone, diazepam.

Karangel25: ~20g in 100ml water, meto.

melanar: 20g, 48 hour regimen with meto, alprazolam.

NeCkDeEp: 2-3 tablespoons SN in 100ml water, 1000mg ibuprofen, anxiolytics, 3 Rennie, 3 sleeping pills, fast heartbeat, drowsy.

heylightiforgot: tablespoon of SN, stat dose antiemetic, 20mg diazepam, acid reducer.

peaceminusbts: 20g in 50/100ml water, 48 hour regimen domperidone, 3 x 45mg ranitidine, 8 hour fasting.

LuxelDrief: 22g in 70ml water, stat dose meto, 800mg cimetidine, 8 hour fast, metamizol.

Davy: 25g, stat dose meto, zantac, lorazepam.

timetogo: 2 tablespoons in 50ml water, 3 x 75mg ranitidine, fast for 36 hours, throat warm, heaving but not vomiting, do not feel nauseous, hands falling asleep, pain, vomiting swallow back, cannot breathe.

Lunaemoth: 20g, 48 hour regimen meto, 800mg of Tagamet, ibuprofen, feel dizzy, fast loud heartbeat, overheated but hands cold and shaky, pale, nauseous, almost blacked out getting up, feel better laying down.

Kakabushi: 48 hour regimen meto.

Tristesse: Haven't pass out yet 16min after taking SN, the heart rate raised a lot, now the eyesight is a little influenced, dizzy and ringing in the ears now.

Funkygibbon: SN in 20 capsules, vomited but had recently eaten, turned blue, no pain, vision going spotty.

Whatshername: 48 hours regimen meto, acid reducers, Xanax.

Northerngirl1965: 10g in 100ml water, 48 hour regimen meto, 800mg Tagamet, Benadryl, Kalm tab.

Purple777: 15g in 100ml water, 48 hour regime meto, 800mg Tagamet, Xanax, 12 hour fast.

Jackblade: 20g in ~70ml water, stat dose domperidone (3 x 10mg), omeprazole (1 x 10mg).

Kemis: 30g, 48 hour regimen cyclizine (3 x 50mg per day), pepto bismol, Ranitidine (4 x 75mg), Zantac.

Spartacus00: 10g in water, 32 pills SN (each holds 0.5g), vomited, headache, shaky.

Kukubananas: 3 teaspoons SN (approx.. 17-18g), 100mg of dimenhydrinate, 50 mg of meclizine, 800mg of Tagamet, fasted for about 18 hours, fast heartbeat, very nauseous, no headache, cannot breathe, vomited, back of throat hurts, keep coughing, dizzy, stomach feels funny, hot, hard to concentrate, like being drunk, nausea passed after a while, hands shaky, body feels heavy, no energy, feel faint.

Rocksandsand: 20g, stat dose meto, benzos, antacid, did not fast, slight stomach discomfort, vomited.

bubbletea: 20g, stat dose domperidone (30mg), 10mg diazepam, fast heartbeat.

Vegrau: 20g, no antiemetic, cimetidine 800mg, lorazepam 6mg, fasted 24 hours.

Lunar: 15g in 60ml of water, stat dose meto (40mg), 4 x 75g Ranitidine, 1000mg Ibuprofen, fasted 8 hours, fast heartbeat, no pain, sleepy and relaxed.

Karangel25: 30g, 48 hour regimen meto.

Cloudz: 20g in 125ml water, stat dose 30mg meto, Tagamet 800mg, fast heartbeat.

Zal: 12 capsules SN, no antiemetic, feel a bit under the weather, high pulse.

Oblivion Lover: 25g, 48 hour regime meto, Cimetidine 200mg, Lorazepam 2mg, 8 hour fasting.

AnxiouslyDepressed: 20g in 50ml water, 48 hour regimen meto, 1mg clonazepam, 120mg propranolol, 1mg Xanax, 4mg diazepam, 1000mg paracetamol, 20ml Milk of Magnesia, 8 hour fast, gagged slightly due to salty taste, dizzy, no nausea.

SoupSnakes: 25g in 50ml water, 48 hour regimen meto, 1g paracetamol, 100mg amitriptyline, 800mg Tagamet, 8 hour fast.

daikon: 48 hour regimen meto, 400mg ibuprofen, klonopin.

peaceminusbts: 20g in 100ml water, 48 hour regimen domperidone, rantadine, fasting for 8 hours.

Kronos: 25g, 10 hour regimen meto, 200mg propranolol, 1000mg paracetamol.

SpecialK: 21g, stat dose 300mg of Quietiapine, 2x 400mg of Advil, 2 Gravol, 2 Tagamet, almost vomited after drinking, fast heartbeat, drifting away, vision blurry.

Readytoendit: 20g, no antiemetic, 800mg Tagamet, advil, slight headache and nausea after 3 minutes, not a great deal of pain, felt peaceful about the decision.

Escaper Boy: 20g, stat dose meto, cimetidine.

epil: 20g, no antiemetic, 900mg ranitidine

Godofdeathftw: 48 hour regimen meto, Zoltan, fasted 8 hours.

isam: stat dose meto, 1000mg paracetamol.

PrincessStepford: 20g in 75ml water, 48 hour regimen meto, doesn't taste too bad.

SS UNSUCCESSFUL

drakewantstogo: 17g, stat dose of 30mg metoclopramide, 225mg Zantac, fasted for more than 8 hours, after 5 minutes vomited 3 times, after 15 minutes did not feel drowsy, felt happy and excited at first but then felt anxiety, mild dissociation, blindness, felt bad – pain 6/10, called emergency services, arrived 45 minutes after intake.

Querry1: 15g in 60ml water, stat dose of weak antiemetic, fasted for 6 hours, heart beating fast, vomited after 20 minutes, after 30 minutes felt unbearable pain 6-7/10, called emergency services, blacked out after 1 hour.

Mortalscreensaver: 10g, no antiemetic or acid regulator but fasted for 24 hours, slowly sipped liquid and did not finish, lips turned blue, felt dizzy when walking, fainted after 10 minutes.

clover: 50g, baking soda as acid inhibitor, no fasting, wasn't able to finish drink because of saltiness and drowsiness, tried to walk but felt weak and collapsed, found by girlfriend, felt nauseous and "out of it," lost consciousness and had seizures, emergency services called, no permanent damage.

21Neberg: 20g in 150ml water, no antiemetic, no antacid, 24 hour fast, lips turned blue, fainted 10 minutes later, did not finish glass, still sipping it when found, dizzy when walking, found by mother, emergency services called, fully recovered

ultraviolet sin: 20g drank over an hour, regimen meto, Xanax, no fasting, didn't vomit, didn't hurt, felt euphoric, found by police in hotel room 1 hour 40 minutes after, "out of it" while being treated.

Mich517: 20g in 100ml DMSO, vomited a lot, similar to partial hanging, vision affected, felt like passing out, convulsions, hands shaking, fell as stood up, not fully conscious, slept it off, no pain, nausea.

X-Kid: 2 tablespoons in 1.5 cups water, had two sips, 8mg ondansetron afterward, felt fine but burning in nostrils, unconscious after 20 minutes, no pain, roommate found him passed out with blue/grey face and called emergency services, doctors claimed would be dead if not found.

Lotus: 20g, stat dose antiemetic, fasted all day, loss of vision/vision blurred, vomited after 20 minutes then felt no pain, fast heartbeat, passed out, police came into room after last sip as someone had called emergency services.

Divine Trinity: Took SN and other than the burning sensations (minor to me), I can't remember much after lying down. The burning is similar to acid reflux in the oesophagus and stomach, slightly worse since it lingers. Only reason I survived was because someone called the cops after I was under, woke up handcuffed to the hospital bed.

axorz: 17g, stat dose of meto, benzos, Tagamet, 8 hour fast. Vomited immediately after drinking, lost consciousness after about 10 seconds, brother called ambulance. No long term consequences.

Jen0804: SN mixed with orange juice. After effects – alopecia, hair started coming out within that same week and continued until June. It's slowly growing back now, periods stopped completely so I believe it can mess up hormones/endocrine - not sure about long term fertility or male fertility etc., immediately after taking it and the whole two weeks after, my kidneys and bowels just weren't functioning, also couldn't feel hunger. I ate an apple and two bites of a hospital sandwich for a whole week or so (drank as normal) but I was so not hungry.

Funkygibbon: 8 or 9 SN in capsules, went outside for a cigarette, within 10mins I was found because a neighbour walked past, my lips were blue and I was ghostly white, my only symptoms were a massive headache, I didn't feel sick or anything, my neighbour called an ambulance.

L0ne1ygh0st: 15g in 100ml water, no antiemetic, stat dose quetiapine, vomited, sore throat, headache, fast heartbeat but peaceful, boyfriend found her and called emergency services.

zajebistakaczka: 20g, 48 hour regimen of meto, alprazolam, 2mg Xanax.

Ifisieyoung: no antiemetic, vomited, sleepy, hot, didn't realise how fast it would work and someone found me, would recommend this method and I will be trying it again this weekend.

Eden2k: SN in sips at first, felt nauseous but didn't vomit, gulped down the rest, vomited in 10 minutes, severe headache, pain in my lower part of my back and stomach cramps probably down to vomiting, hadn't eaten or taken anti-acid or antiemetics, assumed it hadn't worked so lied down because I had the headache from hell, woke up early hours the next day, looked in the mirror, discolouration of skin, tried to get out of bed but stumbled and knocked things down, other customers in the hotel room next door reporting loud crashing from my room, hotel staff let themselves in when they couldn't get a response, had passed out on the floor.

Minudah: 5 teaspoons in ½ cup DMSO, ¾ rubbed into skin, no antiemetics, abdominal pain, mouth dry, dizzy, lethargic, weak, vision going black, headache, bad chest pains, muscle pains, fatigue, nauseous, stiffness, shaking, called emergency services.

Suicidal4Ever: 3 teaspoons in 100ml water, no antiemetic, 3 x benzo, had drunk alcohol, tired, doubt if I've taken enough, vomited 3 hours after taking, heart felt it was going to burst out of chest, went to sleep, woke with hangover, headache, head ringing, eyes pulsing, blue lips and fingernails, continued vomiting next day but almost back to normal.

Notf1xable: 25g in 100ml water, no antiemetic, zolfran, antacid, 8 hour fast, vomited after drinking, burned going down, didn't finish full dose, lay down, sweaty, dizzy, vision affected, sore body like flu, feeling out of it, called emergency services.

Kaluk: 20g in 100ml water, no antiemetics or benzos, fasted 13 hours but had a few beers, nauseous and dizzy, lost consciousness 20-30 minutes after taking SN, accidentally turned up stereo and complaint made to police about one hour after taking SN, resuscitated and sectioned for two weeks, doctors said would have died if taken in 30-40 minutes later.

NEWS ARTICLES

Wira Wahyudi Sinuraya died after ingested 100 times safe amount.

Robert Laurie Coates died after SN ingestion.

Joshua Barton died after SN ingestion.

Juanita Ainsley died after SN ingestion.

20 year old girl died after SN ingestion.

Inezi Scychocki Serafine 20g in 200ml of water.

Ashley Walker died after SN ingestion.

Teresa Sunna, 28 year old, died after SN ingestion, lethal dose for humans is set at around 22 milligrams per kilo of body weight.

Brett Stevens and a 24-year-old woman found dead at AirBnB in Scotland.

Shawn Shatto was found blue, cold, lying on the floor, she wasn't breathing.

Mathew Mindler Former Child Star, Died By Suicide With $15 Amazon Product

Empire actress Lindsey Pearlman died by suicide in February from sodium nitrite poisoning, found dead in her car

Edward Leclair, 57, Pedophile killed himself in courtroom by drinking sodium nitrite, found unconscious in a holding cell, Shortly after entering the holdover cell, he started vomiting, and emergency services were called, in hospital he was pronounced dead

SCIENTIFIC ARTICLES (SUCCESSFUL)

17 year old dental nurse died after taking a single 1g tablet of sodium nitrite.

A man in his 30s who had exhibited mild depression was found dead in his house. At autopsy, the lividity of the face and back was greenish grey, and the blood was tinted a chocolate brown colour. Level of methemoglobin was 83.4% by spectrophotometry.

A case of methemoglobinemia caused by the accidental contamination of drinking-water with sodium nitrite. The patient had a MetHb concentration of 49%. The amount of sodium nitrite ingested was estimated to be 0.7g.

Two cases of fatal methemoglobinemia resulting from ingestion of laxative solution inadvertently contaminated with sodium nitrite are described. Postmortem toxicological examination revealed methemoglobin levels in excess of 75% in both patients – a level that is uniformly fatal. The laxative solution was found to contain sodium nitrite instead of sodium sulfate at a concentration of 15 g/L. The pathophysiology of methemoglobinemia and a review of other reported cases of toxic methemoglobinemia are presented. Marked cyanosis in the face of intact cardiorespiratory function should alert the physician to the possibility of toxic methemoglobinemia.

A 76-year-old man collapsed and rapidly developed brady-asystolic cardiac arrest 25 min following self-poisoning with an unknown quantity of crystalline sodium nitrite. On arrival in the ED the patient was asystolic with cardiopulmonary resuscitation in progress. Haemoglobin concentration was 110 g/L, arterial methaemoglobin measured 82.6% and serum lactate 9.6 mmol/L. Antioxidative treatment was undertaken with total 5 mg/kg intravenous methylene blue administered in divided aliquots. Despite prolonged resuscitative efforts the patient died.

Below I had attached cases screenshots as I am not able to copy the text in pdf

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30 year old male

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44 year old male


was found dead in his room, with a note saying sn ingestion, apart from previous suicide attempts patient had no past medical history

30 year old male

Was in suicidal ideation who was witnessed consuming sn which he purchased from online, he died on the way to the hospital, he had mental illness and several attempts of suicide in the past.

SCIENTIFIC ARTICLES (UNSUCCESSFUL)

A 23-year-old female presented to the emergency department after intentionally ingesting an unspecified amount of sodium nitrate. She presented by ambulance to the hospital profoundly cyanotic and unresponsive. The patient's initial methemoglobin level was 92.7%.

A 52-year-old male was transported to hospital after being found at home by family, unconscious and slumped awkwardly for approximately 24 hours. After treatment reported chest pains, kidney injury due to SN, deep vein thrombosis, cognitive impairment (unclear if this was due to past history of ECT or SN).

Sodium nitrite ingestion for suicidal attempt, presented in unconsciousness, shock and deeply cyanosed condition. He was pulseless and had no recordable BP with methemoglobin level of 77%. He completely recovered after two days. Survival in a case of methemoglobinemia with extremely high level of methemoglobin, non-recordable BP and deep cyanosis is rarely reported.

Poisoning with sodium nitrite in three family members after eating homemade sausages given to them by their neighbour who was a butcher. The concentration of sodium nitrite in the homemade sausages was about 3.5g per 1kg of meat, almost 30 times higher than allowed according to legislation. A 70-year-old man died about 7 hours after consuming the meal, while two women, 53 and 67 years of age, respectively, were admitted to a toxicology clinic the following day due to food poisoning, with the maximum concentration of MHb in blood of 33.7 and 20.4%, respectively. They were discharged 3 days later. The autopsy of the deceased man showed sodium nitrite poisoning with a relatively low concentration of MHb in his blood – 9.87%. Death was attributed to the exacerbation of hypertensive and ischemic heart disease, resulting from accidental sodium nitrite poisoning.

11 men, aged 60 to 80, had been admitted to hospital with cyanosis and shock. In each instance illness occurred within 5 to 30 minutes after eating breakfast. They became dizzy, felt weak, and complained of abdominal cramps. Eight of them vomited and all had diarrhoea. Five of them became unconscious shortly after onset of symptoms. They had subnormal temperatures, cold extremities, and low blood pressures. In addition, all had cyanosis. All but one patient recovered. This man, age 82, died the following morning. Autopsy revealed bronchopneumonia. The only other abnormal finding was a diffuse mahogany brown discoloration of the organs.

A 28-year-old man was brought to our emergency department because of transient loss of consciousness and cyanosis. He was immediately intubated and ventilated with 100% oxygen. A blood test revealed a methemoglobin level of 92.5%. Outcome. We treated the patient with gastric lavage, activated charcoal, and methylene blue (2 mg/kg) administered intravenously. Soon after receiving methylene blue, his cyanosis resolved and the methemoglobin level began to decrease. After relocation to the intensive care unit, his consciousness improved and he could recall ingesting approximately 15 g sodium nitrite about 1 hour before he was brought to our hospital. The patient was discharged on day 7 without neurologic impairment.

A woman in her 20s was brought to the casualty clinic due to symptoms of psychosis, and it was deemed necessary to section her. While she was there, she drank two small bottles of reagents that she found in a Strep test kit. She then became somnolent and her oxygen saturation decreased. Guidance from the Poisons Information Centre was required for rapid clarification and correct treatment.

We present two patients who were treated for an intentional overdose of sodium nitrite. When ingested sodium nitrite leads to severe methaemoglobinaemia, resulting in severe hypoxia (as methaemoglobin does not transport oxygen), vasodilation and hypotension. Symptoms include cyanosis, headache, nausea, convulsions, coma and death. When measured by pulse oximetry, patients with a sodium nitrite intoxication and severe methaemoglobinaemia generally have an oxygen saturation of around 85%. This value is unreliable as the oxygen content of the blood is often extremely low - this can be confirmed by arterial blood gas analysis. Treatment of sodium nitrite intoxication consists of intravenous administration of methylthioninium chloride 1-2 mg/kg. Methylthioninium chloride converts the methaemoglobin back to haemoglobin.

A 20-year-old man presented to the ED after intentional ingestion of 750 mg of powdered sodium nitrite(98% by weight). He had been experiencing major depressive disorder for the last 6 months but had not taken medicine recently. He was under stress from a college issue and felt pressured to succeed in the future. He remained depressed for most of the day and repeatedly thought of death. He prepared a pill by filling an empty pill capsule with sodium nitrite powder and taking it with water at home. One hour later, the patient visited the ED. He stated that he obtained information on how to make the suicide pill from an online suicide forum and purchased sodium nitrite online. He brought a bottle containing 500 grams of 98% sodium nitrite by weight that he purchased online (Fig. 3). He experienced only mild nausea a few minutes after ingesting a self-produced suicide pill. A physical examination revealed no signs of central or peripheral cyanosis, and the patient was hemodynamically stable. The initial methemoglobin level was 4.8. His methemoglobin level returned to normal 2 hours after ingestion. Methemoglobin levels did not change following repeated measurements. The patient recovered without any problems with conservative supportive treatment.

This person used low purity sodium nitrite, A 23-year-old male with a medical history significant for previous suicide attempts, polysubstance use disorder in remission from alcohol and benzodiazepine use, nicotine dependence, current marijuana use, bipolar disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder, and irritable bowel syndrome presented to the emergency department via emergency medical services (EMS) after intentional overdose. Patient reported ingesting 2 teaspoons of sodium nitrite he obtained from Walmart.com 6 hours before presentation in an attempt to end his life.The patient reported losing consciousness after ingestion and waking up in his own vomit and feces. He felt confused and called EMS. In the emergency department (ED), the patient acknowledged nausea, vomiting, and bowel incontinence. He complained of severe diffuse abdominal pain that was 8/10 in severity. He had used marijuana that day. He denied chest pain, shortness of breath, coingestion with other prescription drugs, over-the-counter drugs, street drugs, and ethanol. He had no auditory hallucinations, current suicidal ideation, or current homicidal ideation. Patient was released with no damage.

Credits to @hadenough

SN Success rate 83%. Less than 20% reported pain


44/53 of those that took it on purpose died (89% of men died, 67% of women, but the sample size for women was smaller)
Even 57% of those that were hospitalized died
In 95 cases, it was possible to collect information relating to the symptoms (Figure 3). The symptoms that were most commonly presented were cyanosis of the face and/or extremities (64; 48.49%), breathing abnormalities (64; 48.49%), altered level of consciousness (57; 43.18%), dizziness (30; 22.73%), vomiting (28; 21.21%), nausea (22; 16.67%), pain (headache: 18, 13.64%; abdominal pain: 1, 0.76%, and chest pain: 1, 0.76%), and tachycardia (19; 14.39%).

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Credits to @neonlol and his thread

 
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There are a couple users on here I assumed were successful in their SN attempt you didn't include.
 
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There are a couple users on here I assumed were successful in their SN attempt you didn't include.
You can add it in this thread

I am adding more cases too

First comment was already too big to manage so I posted it lol
 
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Thank you. That's very important information and it's incredibly helpful. Add this study to your extensive post and we have enough evidence to assume that SN is a very reliable and relatively peaceful method compared to other options. The chance for permanent damage in case of survival is extremely slim. All people mentioned here seem to have recovered just fine from their failed attempt. And I think the information we have gathered is irrefutable evidence that SN is not(!) a horrible method as the media and opponents of this forum suggest.
 
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Scientific articles (successful SN)

An 18 year-old male found deceased on his bedroom floor with a 550g bottle of sodium nitrite nearby. His medical history included anxiety, depression, bipolar and previous overdose; he was prescribed olanzapine. Plain and preserved blood (sub-clavian) and plain and preserved urine samples were provided for toxicological analysis. Ethanol was not detected in blood or urine however; olanzapine was detected on screening, which was confirmed to be present at a therapeutic concentration (0.21 mg/L). The post-mortem preserved blood (sub-clavian) nitrite level was 3.33 μmol/L whilst the nitrate concentration was 10,319 μmol/L.

A 48 year-old female discovered at a lake after a call was made to emergency services from the deceased stating that she had consumed sodium nitrite. Upon admission her methaemoglobin saturation was reported to be >70%; shortly after arriving in hospital she suffered a cardiac arrest and died. Her past medical history includes multiple attempts at suicide by overdose, self-harm and anxiety. Mirtazapine, diazepam, zopiclone and venlafaxine were prescribed to the deceased. Ante-mortem blood samples and post-mortem plain and preserved blood and preserved urine were provided for toxicological investigation. A low concentration of ethanol was detected in ante-mortem blood (28 mg/dL) and post- mortem screening revealed the presence of therapeutic levels of venlafaxine (209 ng/mL), diazepam (77 ng/mL) and cyclizine (261 ng/mL). The post-mortem blood zopiclone concentration was elevated at 144 ng/mL, which may have resulted in a degree of somnolence. The presence of atropine is consistent with medical intervention. Post-mortem plain blood nitrite and nitrate levels were 4912 μmol/L and 527 μmol/L respectively.

A 41 year-old male discovered deceased in bed; a suicide note and two glasses marked poison with a syringe were also found. The deceased had a medical history of back pain, asthma and low mood. Metoclopramide and sertraline were prescribed. Plain femoral blood and plain urine were provided for analysis. Ethanol was detected in the plain blood sample (59 mg/dL) but was not present in the plain urine sample which may be indicative of post- mortem ethanol production. Several drugs and their metabolites were detected on the toxicological screening performed including metoclopramide, propranolol (175 ng/mL), paracetamol (19.3 mg/L), codeine (<5 ng/mL), sertraline (232 ng/mL) and cimetidine. There was also evidence of prior cannabis and cocaine use. The post-mortem femoral plain blood nitrite level was 22.0 μmol/L whilst the blood nitrate level was 16,160 μmol/L.

A 32 year-old male found having consumed sodium nitrite; emergency services attended and commenced CPR but despite best efforts he died. He had a past medical history of depression and drug overdose and was not known to be prescribed any medication; however, vials of testosterone and finasteride tablets were in his room. Plain and preserved femoral blood and preserved vitreous samples were received for analysis. There is evidence of ethanol consumption prior to death (preserved blood ethanol 232 mg/dL and preserved vitreous 204 mg/dL). Cetirizine, finasteride, and anastrozole were detected on screening; the latter two of these are associated with anabolic steroid misuse. The post-mortem femoral plain blood nitrite level was 15.1 μmol/L whilst the blood nitrate level was 13,540 μmol/L.

A 29 year-old male who, according to the case history provided by HM Coroner, reportedly used a 'suicide kit' containing sodium nitrite prior to his death. At post-mortem he was noted to appear dusky grey in colour which is likely to be a result of an associated methaemoglobinaemia; although analysis was not performed. A past medical history and drugs prescribed were not provided in the case report. Plain and preserved blood and urine were provided for toxicological analysis. The post-mortem plain blood nitrite and nitrate concentrations were 172.6 μmol/L and 1860 μmol/L respectively. Apart from the presence of fexofenadine (a non-sedating anti-histamine) no other drugs were present.

A 27-year-old male found slumped on the sofa with a second individual (case 17); both noted to be blue-grey in appearance and believed to have made a suicide pact. A note was present at the scene and a list of various medications was found on a table. Apart from low mood, the deceased had no significant past medial history. Plain and preserved femoral blood and urine and preserved vitreous were provided for analysis. Screening revealed the presence of domperidone which is an anti-emetic drug, ibuprofen and paracetamol. Paracetamol was detected at a concentration suggestive of therapeutic use. There was no evidence of ethanol or illicit drug use. The nitrite and nitrate levels in post-mortem plain blood were 2889 μmol/L and 1035 μmol/L respectively.

A 38 year-old male with a history of persistent delusional disorder, alcohol misuse and previous suicide attempts who was prescribed fluoxetine and aripiprazole. He had recently been discharged from hospital and was found deceased on the sofa. He is believed to have formed a suicide pact with another male (case 16). Plain and preserved femoral blood and urine and preserved vitreous were provided for analysis. Again, screening revealed the presence of domperidone, ibuprofen and paracetamol. Ethanol was also detected in post- mortem blood (86 mg/100mL), urine and vitreous indicating consumption prior to death. There was also evidence of concomitant cocaine use prior to death; benzoylecgonine was detected at a concentration of 409 ng/mL. The post-mortem plain blood nitrite and nitrate concentrations were 1336 μmol/L and 2778 μmol/L respectively.

A 14 year old male discovered with a tub of powder labelled sodium nitrate; white powder residue was found in the bedroom of the deceased. Plain blood and vitreous samples were provided for analysis. A therapeutic concentration of paracetamol alone was detected from screening performed. The post-mortem plain blood nitrite and nitrate concentrations were 21 μmol/L and 14,043 μmol/L respectively.

A 29 year old female who had a history of drug overdose; sodium nitrite was retrieved from the scene. The following drugs were prescribed / available; mirtazapine, propranolol, morphine, codeine and paracetamol. Plain and preserved femoral blood samples were received for toxicological screening. Sub-therapeutic concentrations of paracetamol, codeine and propranolol were detected along with a likely therapeutic concentration of mirtazapine (235 ng/mL). The post-mortem preserved blood nitrite concentration was 2.3 μmol/L, whilst the post-mortem preserved blood nitrate concentration was 3730 μmol/L.

A 47 year-old male who, given the dusky/ashen appearance of his skin on post-mortem was believed to have ingested nitrite/nitrate prior to death. Plain and preserved blood samples were provided for analysis. A therapeutic concentration of paracetamol was detected. Olanzapine and its metabolite were detected but not quantitated. The post-mortem unpreserved blood nitrite and nitrate concentrations were 15 μmol/L and 3537 μmol/L respectively.
 
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LONE WOLF.

LONE WOLF.

PUNISHER.
Nov 4, 2020
1,989
The number of young people wanting to end their existence is truly Heartbreaking!
 
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Thank you. That's very important information and it's incredibly helpful. Add this study to your extensive post and we have enough evidence to assume that SN is a very reliable and relatively peaceful method compared to other options. The chance for permanent damage in case of survival is extremely slim. All people mentioned here seem to have recovered just fine from their failed attempt. And I think the information we have gathered is irrefutable evidence that SN is not(!) a horrible method as the media and opponents of this forum suggest.
You are welcome I just added more cases in this thread, I was looking into more scientific suicide cases because they have more information

Yes brain damage is very slim, In my entire research I saw only one minor brain damage but that person was 63 year old man and he already had high blood pressure, yes sn ain't that bad if done correctly death is painless, the amount of misinformation about sn method is overwhelming
 
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willitpass

Don’t try to offer me help, I’ve tried everything
Mar 10, 2020
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I actually have never made it on one of these lists but was unsuccessful (obviously) in October 2020 and my goodbye thread is still up way back on my page.
 
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Can someone please help me buy SN or point me in the right direction of a source? Trying to buy to the US, state of MA. I bought "pink salt" off of amazon, but it only has 6.25% SN. Will this be enough? How do I go about making an Amazon business account so that I can buy the 97% pure stuff on the website? Or is there another supplier out there I can trust? Please advise, need to CTB as soon as possible. Life is too painful.
 
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More cases from SS

Assumed successful using SN

Lukas19:
Just under 2 hours to go. Departure at Midday.
AE + SN (some Paracetamol and Xanax)
taken paracetamol, xanax, AE. Now am waiting 40 mins.
permanent peace, reincarnation or understanding god
20 mins is an eternity
taken my SN, UNPLEASANT
GOODBYE!

Mimi_:
I am following Stan's guide using Metopimazine as AE. I know it is not the best but I have backup glasses so I am not concerned about throwing up. I still have 5 hours to reach the fast of 8h, so I'm going to fondle Lizzie and listen to music during this time. I never felt so lonely tho.

The SN is from IC, it arrived in one week.
I will take 25g of SN per glass, I weigh around 66kg for 1m73 so it should be enough. Is it true that drinking warm water is preferable for absorption? I know laying on the right side is, so I will do so. If you have any advice, please let me know !!
I'll try to write down how I feel throughout the process until I pass out.

Torch:
I'll take 28g SN in 65ml water around midnight. Been fasting food & liquid since last night, got low blood sugar and did have to have a few apple slices around noon est, hope that's okay.

6 hours before: 500mg Tylenol, 10mg meto done 4:00pm
4 hours before: 600mg Ibuprofen, 10mg meto
2 hours before: 500mg Tylenol, 10mg meto
1 hour before: 40mg famotidine, 75mg Benadryl, 10mg meto, 0.5mg xanax
30 minutes before: 800mg Ibuprofen, 500mg Tylenol, 75mg Benadryl, 3tbs Pepto Bismol, 500mg Cephalexin, 0.5mg xanax, 30mg meto, 16mg zofran.
0 minutes before: 25mg Benadryl, 2tbs Pepto Bismol, 0.5mg xanax, 28g Sodium Nitrite in 50ml of water

Arcadia:
Just ate my last meal, starting my 8 hour fast. I don't know if I'll pussy out or if something will come up but I think this is it. I just hope I have the strength to go through with it, my AE is Prochlorperazine and I'll be taking Omeprazole as an Antacid too. I'm a bit on edge right now because my family are awake, but I'll be doing it when they're asleep so hopefully my nerves will settle down by then. I appreciate this community for providing the resources towards helping me attain a peaceful and quick death, and it being here for me to vent judgement free. People might infer that this forum kills people but it honestly helped me, I would've been gone a lot sooner and in a much more painful way if I didn't have this place where I could share my frustrations with life without being ostracised or being sectioned. Without knowing about these resources I still would've died, just from throwing myself off a bridge or stabbing myself in the chest. My heart is racing just typing this. Please wish me luck.

Unsuccessful attempts

Skylarwhiteyo104781:
It took me a while, maybe 10 minutes to get myself to drink the SN. It was pretty much exactly like swallowing heavily salted water. Super unpleasant and I had to follow it up with more water. I wasn't able to get the entire mixture down even if I plugged my nose.

I drank about a little over half of it and sadly even with the Zofran ended up throwing it up. I had another mixture ready but I physically couldn't bring myself to drink it and physically repulsed as I tried to bring the cup to my lips. I don't remember what happened after but I woke up just now (1:57 PM EST) and feel pretty groggy but that's it. No other side effects not even a headache.

I'm pretty disappointed I wasn't able to bring myself to drink the SN the second time because I have a lot of things in my life happening in the next few weeks that I'm not looking forward to. I'm not sure if I should try to attempt to CTB tonight with the second SN mixture I created last night that's been sitting out on my bedside table. I don't have any more Zofran tho but I have some over the counter nausea medication- although I understand why those aren't supposed to work.

Willitpass:
After taking sn, nausea, sweating, puke, stomach pain and sweating was better but body is tingling and look blue. Hot and sweaty again told my boyfriend to call for help, I don't know will he be here on time. My body tingles and fingers are blue, feeling extremely lightheaded, telling my boyfriend that I am dying, CPR was given, I was given methalyn blue and was up and walking within 12 hours at the hospital.
 
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I_want_to_sleep

Member
Mar 22, 2023
43
It's reassuring to see the high success rate of SN. Would be nice to go that way too someday.
 
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HerculePoirot

(Frozen account)
Sep 25, 2022
743
Additional successful cases:
@Lollypop24 @Willto @BabyCamus
 
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Vizzy

Vizzy

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May 6, 2023
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Best sn successful case documented in this forum, my personal favorite

This person was a beloved member in this forum, what makes this one case interesting is he took sn with OTC, didn't take any meto or benzos and group of people were updating in his goodbye thread of what happened to him after he took the sn

Interesting read!

LetzteAusfahrt:

before taking sn:

Today the time has finally come, I have my final exam. I will finally find out whether I have learned the right thing and can actually apply it.

At least the part about being relaxed seems to fit, I'm completely relaxed and hardly think about tonight. Let's see how it develops.

I am pursuing two goals with the ctb today. Primarily, of course, that I can finally end my existence and find my place in the common, infinite "nothing". The nothing that relieves me of all agony and pain, frees me from it.

I'm looking forward to it so much. To the moment when I realize that the light is about to go out and that I will be on the last path.

For the first time in my life, I got to know the feeling of community here in the forum. A community that accepts everyone for who they are. In which everyone helps one another to find the difficult goal of peace.

For this I would like to thank everyone from the bottom of my heart, first and foremost of course the operators and moderators of the forum.

As a small thank you to dss forum, my ctb is documented by an online observer who writes for me, even if I can no longer do it myself, e.g. because I see everything blurry.

My SN regime is very simple

02:00 pm fasting starts (eating)
08:00 pm 600mg ibuprofen
08:00 pm fasting starts (drinking)
10:00 pm 25g SN in 50ml water

I have prepared 4 servings of 25g SN in 50ml water. Better safe than sorry.

And in the unlikely event that I do wake up again, I wear a noose for a tourniquet around my neck, 3 wooden sticks are ready next to me. Better safe than sorry.

I still have a few things to do and I won't have much time to write. Otherwise, there is already little time to have everything done on my appointment.

I thank everyone from the bottom of my heart who will write to me and I also wish you a pleasant and peaceful journey if you will follow my path.

Goodbye my friends, may you also find the peace you long for.

After taking sn:
22:45 SN ingested
22:49 started a last smoke
22:50 starting to feel nauseaus
22:50 dizziness is setting in
22:51 puked a little into a plastic bag
22:52 fell over, no longer responsive to sound
22:53 tried to say something, body is convulsing
22:54 unconcious, shallow breathing
22:55 more convulsing, breathing is getting harder
22:58 barely breathing now
23:02 seems like he is breathing more steadily now?
23:04 still somehow breathing
23:07 still breathing, albeit slowly. not conscious
23:10 not breathing anymore (not 100% sure on that)
23:18 no movement at all, we think he is at peace now

Observer remarks:
All in all it seemed very fast and peaceful.

Anyone want to read the thread, I have attached the thread link below:

 
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inmyhead

Student
May 21, 2023
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Thank you so much for this comprehensive thread and all your work. It was a really interesting read.
 
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Source Energy

Source Energy

I want to be where people areN'T...
Jan 23, 2023
705
Thank you for this thread. I will be on this list soon and it has to be successful. Seeing so many sn ctbs gives me ease. Especially the ones who passed out quickly.
 
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Another successful case completely recorded by forum members in every steps

JellyFish42:
Before taking sn:

Dear SS community,

Unfortunately it's time for my bus. I've completed all my preparations and I'm finally ready to ctb today.

It's been a pleasant stay for me here. I've enjoyed reading and partaking in the discussions. Thank you for being a good community and place where discussing suicide isn't taboo.

For those curious as to why: It's a complicated bag of existential and personal problems. My desire to live has been non-existent for way too long. And I refuse to live for the sake of others. Furthermore I've already been through the mental healthcare system and take medications. But even that can only do so much by itself.

My method of choice is SN and I'll probably just take some ibuprofen beforehand. I'll tolerate whatever discomfort comes though I'm hoping it will knock me out before that. I've chosen to do this at a nearby forest to avoid leaving a mess for the public eye.

Anyways, good bye

After taking sn:

If someone could please post my next few updates in my good bye thread, I'm about to drink the SN, I'm not sure how long I will have consciousness

Jellyfish42: Sipping, it's really salty

Jellyfish42(2 minutes after beginning ingestion): Nothing so far just salty, a slight burn on the back of the throat but not painful at all. Can feel heart starting to pound a little bit

Jellyfish42(5 minutes after): Heart pounding faster, no pain or discomfort so far

Jellyfish42(7 minutes after): Finished first glass of SN, nothing but a really salty after taste and heart beating faster

Jellyfish42(8 minutes after): Yup I want to go for the second glass but damn it's so salty it's off putting. I'm getting slight urge to vomit also

Jellyfish42(11 minutes): Chewing a little bit of gum to help with the digestion, no pain or discomfort so far. Body feels weak though and heart still pounding. Stomach feels a little weird.

Jellyfish42(14 minutes): Vomited no pain or discomfort heart is beating

Jellyfish42(17 minutes): Attempting 2nd glass. Slight twitches in my legs, legs starting to sleep, not painful

Jellyfish42(21 minutes): 2nd glass downed, feeling weaker, heart pounding, no pain or discomfort really just a bad after taste

Jellyfish42(25 minutes): Mind feels weird l, can't deeal think I think it my timr not painful or doesn't
Observer remarks:
All in all it seemed very painless and peaceful.

Anyone want to read the thread, I have attached the thread link below:


Credits to @Valkyrae
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
10,069
Thanks so much for putting this together. It must have taken a long time but it's so useful to see it all together like this. Very grateful. 🤗
 
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slapppy

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It is clear that some reported no pain at all and others experienced severe stomach pain.

Here is my explanation

Gastric acid (HCL) reacts with SN (NaNO2) to form Salt (NaCl)

According to the reaction:

NaNO2 + HCL -> HNO2 + NaCl

If you do not take an antacid to reduce the HCL in your stomach, not only will some SN be converted away before it can reach your bloodstream,

you will also have a large amount of salt in your stomach, which is understandably painful

SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO TAKE AN ANTACID

IGNORING THE ANTACID CAN LEAD TO SEVERE STOMACH PAIN

You can be successful without it, but there are plenty of cases of people who ctb with an antacid to show us it is not harmful.

Even Stan took an OTC antacid.

And he gave the same explanation here

Well there are a lot of enzymes and this thing called Hydrochloric Acid. A chemical! Interesting! What does that mean? Chemical formula for SN meeting your gastric juices would be 3NaNO2 + 2HCl → 2NaCl + NaNO3 + 2NO + H2O. Still lost me! Can you speak English please? So basically, when SN hits your stomach, the acid there works to convert it into other things such as regular table salt, Nitric oxide, Sodium Nitrate and water. None of those are really what you want. So reducing the HCL prevents SN being converted to something else? Yes, correct. Well how do we minimise this? It needs something to neutralise the HCL acid. More commonly you want to create a chemical reaction like this, Mg(OH)2(s) + 2HCl(aq) → 2H2O(l) + MgCl2(aq). You are at it again Stan! Speak English damn you! OK - what you need is an antacid with magnesium hydroxide in it. Why do you recommend that one over others? Well there are a number of other alkali that neutralise stomach acid, but this is the most benign on the list and has minimal to no conflict with other medications. It is generally known as Milk of Magnesia. Where do you find that? Any regular pharmacy without prescription. Can I use other non prescription antacid? Yes you can, I just stated Milk of Magnesia as it was the easiest when looking at some other drug interactions. But most are simple and cause no adverse effects.

For those of you who will say antacids are no longer recommended in the PPH

Here is what Stan had to say about the author of PPH (basically the author Nitschke is not reliable when it comes to details)

I'm going to say something a bit controversial. Nitschke does a great job at a high level in respect to promoting pro-choice, I have no doubt about it. My problem is when he actually goes into detail about some methods. PN did a tweet a few years ago and the 'Sodium Salt methods'. He described SN as, and I quote ' a very poor substitute to N'. But yet in the PPH he gives it a high score as well as saying in his last live conference that he would do it. So what is it? One or the other?

After doing a fair bit of research on the regimen I question the validity of how they recommend you prepare yourself with a list of medications to give yourself. The latest inclusion is the use of a drug called propranolol to minimise the fast (but not painful) heart rate you might get. Watching the video where he mentions it, an audience member asks for the dose. You can see his face searching for a number. "2gm" he replies. Researching that drug, that is an overdose. The maximum a doctor will prescribe is 1.2gm over a 24 hour period. What you are doing with that recommended amount is giving yourself an overdose. Guess what one of the symptoms is for a propranolol overdose is? Nausea! So all that effort to take antiemetics could be undone by another pointless regimen drug.

And

the PPH is regarded as a well researched document and that whatever comes out of PN's live conferences is gospel, then someone like me could be called a heretic. My guess is that someone threw a symptom at him and then just gave a blase answer for each symptom without much regard to interactions or even worse, what the cocktails of drugs do together in total without factoring in any other drug. That's why i somewhat educated myself on human digestion.

Source
 
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Jezzibell

On my way out. Yayyyyy
Apr 21, 2023
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Wow. Thank you so much for this. I'm sure that this must have taken a substantial amount of time.
 
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It is clear that some reported no pain at all and others experienced severe stomach pain.

Here is my explanation

Gastic acid (HCL) reacts with SN (NaNO2) to form Salt (NaCl)

According to the reaction:

NaNO2 + HCL -> HNO2 + NaCl

If you do not take an antacid to reduce the HCL in your stomach, you will have a large amount of salt in your stomach, which is understandably painful

SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO TAKE AN ANTACID

IGNORING THE ANTACID CAN LEAD TO SEVERE STOMACH PAIN

Even Stan took an OTC antacid.

And he gave the same explanation here



For those of you who will say antacids are no longer recommended in the PPH

Here is what Stan had to say about the author of PPH (basically the author is not reliable when it comes to details)




And



Source
Sorry I respect Stan but I go by ppeh book and their research because they dedicated their entire life to research about euthanasia and they are more reputable

Antiacid should not be added in the sn procedure because it will reduce stomach acid which will make the sn absorption too long, you already taking meto to stop nausea and vomiting adding too much medicine will make the sn procedure worse because high chances of vomiting which you don't want in sn method as the ultimate rule is to keep the sn in your system

Anyone reading this, don't use antiacid!

Please everyone follow the ppeh book which have all the information we all need to use sn method properly , I have attached the book link

 
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Yes thank you to the OP.
And others that added information.

Lots of reading to do.
This is a mega thread of nothing.
but very useful information that answers a lot of questions and concerns.

Thanks again.
 
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EmmaD

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Apr 11, 2023
356
I really appreciate members who go to all the trouble with these threads.. it's so useful.
I know @Mentalmick ctb with SN but the only proof I have is him telling me he had it in his possession,…. Then that he was having serious issues with his psych meds which were making the SN look more tempting by the day.. then soon after him stopping emailing and me getting confirmation he had died round that date. I know it was SN but obvs that's not solid proof. I know he was absolutely confident with the method and clearly it worked.
 
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slapppy

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Sorry I respect Stan but I go by ppeh book and their research because they dedicated their entire life to research about euthanasia and they are more reputable

Antiacid should not be added in the sn procedure because it will reduce stomach acid which will make the sn absorption too long, you already taking meto to stop nausea and vomiting adding too much medicine will make the sn procedure worse because high chances of vomiting which you don't want in sn method as the ultimate rule is to keep the sn in your system

Anyone reading this, don't use antiacid!

Please everyone follow the ppeh book which have all the information we all need to use sn method properly , I have attached the book link


Backup your claims with chemistry then. I did.

You have been telling everybody to skip the antacid when there are many cases where people were successful with one.

You put full trust in PPH when they recommended 2 grams of propranolol in the past and now they say its not necessary.

They are not a reliable source for exact details.

Fallacy: Appeal to authority.

What is the appeal to authority fallacy? The appeal to authority fallacy is a type of informal fallacy that occurs when someone uses the authority, reputation, or expertise of a person or a source as the sole or primary reason to support their argument, without providing any other evidence or reasoning.

I only trust Stan because he explained the chemical reason behind using an antacid. Not because he was seen as an authority on the method.
 
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Backup your claims with chemistry then. I did.

You have been telling everybody to skip the antacid when there are many cases where people were successful with one.

You put full trust in PPH when they recommended 2 grams of propranolol in the past and now they say its not necessary.

They are not a reliable source for exact details.

Fallacy: Appeal to authority.

What is the appeal to authority fallacy? The appeal to authority fallacy is a type of informal fallacy that occurs when someone uses the authority, reputation, or expertise of a person or a source as the sole or primary reason to support their argument, without providing any other evidence or reasoning.

I only trust Stan because he explained the chemical reason behind using an antacid. Not because he was seen as an authority on the method.
I gave you the science behind that antiacid will reduce the stomach acid production that makes sn absorption longer which will make the death time longer, I don't know what more explanation you need

Yes I have been telling everyone to skip antiacid because I follow ppeh as they are more reputable and they know what they are talking about

Yes I put my full trust on ppeh, as time goes all the procedures change so ppeh making changes is not a big deal because we all learn from previous mistakes and research

Ppeh is the most reliable one when it comes to euthanasia, if they are not reliable they won't survive this long and no one will be reading their book

This thread is not about antiacid is needed or not, this thread is for people to read the past sn death experiences

Please stop reply as I don't wanna talk more about antiacid in this thread!
 
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Unwr!tten

Saltier than SN
Apr 10, 2023
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This blows my mind, I wanted to get a rough percentage of how successful SN is and it's MIND BLOWING. The failure rate seems to only be 24.3% This is amazing and we're still probably missing success cases.

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  27. Lunaemoth
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  30. Funkygibbon
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  32. Northerngirl1965
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  56. isam
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  60. Joshua Barton
  61. Juanita Ainsley
  62. 20 year old girl
  63. Inezi Scychocki Serafine
  64. Ashley Walker
  65. Teresa Sunna
  66. Brett Stevens
  67. Shawn Shatto
  68. Mathew Mindler
  69. Lindsey Pearlman
  70. Edward Leclair
  71. 17 year old dental nurse
  72. A man in his 30s
  73. A case of methemoglobinemia
  74. Two cases
  75. A 76-year-old man
  76. 23 year old female
  77. 19 year old female
  78. 20 year old female
  79. 22 year old male
  80. 30 year old male
  81. 19 year old female
  82. 48 year old female
  83. 49 year old female
  84. 44 year old male
  85. 30 year old male
  86. 18 year-old male
  87. 48 year-old female
  88. 41 year-old male
  89. 32 year-old male
  90. 29 year-old male
  91. 27-year-old male
  92. 38 year-old male
  93. 14 year old male
  94. 29 year old female
  95. 47 year-old male
  96. Lukas19:
  97. Mimi_
  98. Torch:
  99. Arcadia:
  100. LetzteAusfahrt
  101. Lollypop24
  102. Willto
  103. BabyCamus
UNSUCCESSFUL

  1. drakewantstogo
  2. Querry1
  3. Mortalscreensaver
  4. clover
  5. 21Neberg
  6. ultraviolet sin
  7. Mich517
  8. X-Kid
  9. Lotus
  10. Divine Trinity
  11. axorz
  12. Jen0804
  13. Funkygibbon
  14. L0ne1ygh0st
  15. zajebistakaczka
  16. Ifisieyoung
  17. Eden2k
  18. Minudah
  19. Suicidal4Ever
  20. Notf1xable
  21. Kaluk
  22. A 23-year-old female
  23. A 52-year-old male
  24. Sodium nitrite ingestion
  25. Poisoning with sodium nitrite
  26. 11 men
  27. A 28-year-old man
  28. A woman in her 20s
  29. We present two patients
  30. 20-year-old man
  31. 23-year-old male
  32. Skylarwhiteyo104781
  33. Willitpass:
 
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Vizzy

DEAD
May 6, 2023
1,869
This blows my mind, I wanted to get a rough percentage of how successful SN is and it's MIND BLOWING. The failure rate seems to only be 24.3% This is amazing and we're still probably missing success cases.

SUCCESSFUL

  1. iceiceice722
  2. Stan
  3. Moonicide
  4. Chat room
  5. gambardella
  6. MeltingHeart
  7. BPD-LE
  8. metalchic_74
  9. Tearygirl
  10. Suicidal4Ever
  11. Neverod
  12. Spiderman_32
  13. trynacbt
  14. Kvothe_alThor
  15. shango
  16. EBEN30
  17. JordT
  18. Bumblebee
  19. Karangel25
  20. melanar
  21. NeCkDeEp
  22. heylightiforgot
  23. peaceminusbts
  24. LuxelDrief
  25. Davy
  26. timetogo
  27. Lunaemoth
  28. Kakabushi
  29. Tristesse
  30. Funkygibbon
  31. Whatshername
  32. Northerngirl1965
  33. Purple777
  34. Jackblade:
  35. Kemis
  36. Spartacus00
  37. Kukubananas
  38. Rocksandsand
  39. bubbletea
  40. Vegrau
  41. Lunar
  42. Karangel25
  43. Cloudz
  44. Zal
  45. Oblivion Lover
  46. AnxiouslyDepressed
  47. SoupSnakes
  48. daikon
  49. peaceminusbts
  50. Kronos
  51. SpecialK
  52. Readytoendit
  53. Escaper Boy
  54. epil
  55. Godofdeathftw
  56. isam
  57. PrincessStepford
  58. Wira Wahyudi Sinuray
  59. Robert Laurie Coates
  60. Joshua Barton
  61. Juanita Ainsley
  62. 20 year old girl
  63. Inezi Scychocki Serafine
  64. Ashley Walker
  65. Teresa Sunna
  66. Brett Stevens
  67. Shawn Shatto
  68. Mathew Mindler
  69. Lindsey Pearlman
  70. Edward Leclair
  71. 17 year old dental nurse
  72. A man in his 30s
  73. A case of methemoglobinemia
  74. Two cases
  75. A 76-year-old man
  76. 23 year old female
  77. 19 year old female
  78. 20 year old female
  79. 22 year old male
  80. 30 year old male
  81. 19 year old female
  82. 48 year old female
  83. 49 year old female
  84. 44 year old male
  85. 30 year old male
  86. 18 year-old male
  87. 48 year-old female
  88. 41 year-old male
  89. 32 year-old male
  90. 29 year-old male
  91. 27-year-old male
  92. 38 year-old male
  93. 14 year old male
  94. 29 year old female
  95. 47 year-old male
  96. Lukas19:
  97. Mimi_
  98. Torch:
  99. Arcadia:
  100. LetzteAusfahrt
  101. Lollypop24
  102. Willto
  103. BabyCamus
UNSUCCESSFUL

  1. drakewantstogo
  2. Querry1
  3. Mortalscreensaver
  4. clover
  5. 21Neberg
  6. ultraviolet sin
  7. Mich517
  8. X-Kid
  9. Lotus
  10. Divine Trinity
  11. axorz
  12. Jen0804
  13. Funkygibbon
  14. L0ne1ygh0st
  15. zajebistakaczka
  16. Ifisieyoung
  17. Eden2k
  18. Minudah
  19. Suicidal4Ever
  20. Notf1xable
  21. Kaluk
  22. A 23-year-old female
  23. A 52-year-old male
  24. Sodium nitrite ingestion
  25. Poisoning with sodium nitrite
  26. 11 men
  27. A 28-year-old man
  28. A woman in her 20s
  29. We present two patients
  30. 20-year-old man
  31. 23-year-old male
  32. Skylarwhiteyo104781
  33. Willitpass:
Yes I already included the research to prove that in the first comment

Mostly people who failed because they were found by the family members, didn't follow the sn procedure, sn purity, didn't take the proper dosage!
 
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AliceTheGoon

Specialist
Jul 1, 2022
397
Some other successes I don't see listed...zadig777, edrudd, jrums, Hope:-), Theanswer, ojinzo. There was a list that included some of these so there may be quite a few more.
 
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Unwr!tten

Unwr!tten

Saltier than SN
Apr 10, 2023
532
Wow, it really seems like SN is like one of the most reliable methods.
 
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Letgo

Specialist
Apr 1, 2023
320
thank you for this!!!
 
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