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nzdarkshark

nzdarkshark

The Loved Mistake
Sep 4, 2018
400
...I'm actually terrified.

But I guess whatever happens...happens.
I'll still do my best to find peace this summer.

Wish me luck? I may need it...
 
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Schopenhauer

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Oct 3, 2018
1,133
Good luck, I'm sure you'll make through it unscathed!
 
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tammyot

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Aug 1, 2018
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Wishing you all the luck and a peaceful exit.
 
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sadsoul

sadsoul

Alive and unwell
Sep 9, 2018
440
Good luck!
 
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weedoge

Banned
Jul 12, 2018
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What's the appointment for @nzdarkshark ? Hope it doesn't go too bad
 
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nzdarkshark

The Loved Mistake
Sep 4, 2018
400
What's the appointment for @nzdarkshark ? Hope it doesn't go too bad
It's for my mental health - the senior team of people at a 'local'...I don't know what to call it...are seeing me.

I hope it goes well too. I don't want to be locked up in a hellhole.
 
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weedoge

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It's for my mental health - the senior team of people at a 'local'...I don't know what to call it...are seeing me.

I hope it goes well too. I don't want to be locked up in a hellhole.
Oh jeez, thought it might have been just for something physical, sounds awful. Got a few appointments this month too and dreading it so hard. Good luck :(
 
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sadsoul

sadsoul

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Sep 9, 2018
440
It's for my mental health - the senior team of people at a 'local'...I don't know what to call it...are seeing me.

I hope it goes well too. I don't want to be locked up in a hellhole.
As long as you don't tell them about your plans to ctb you should be fine.
 
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nzdarkshark

The Loved Mistake
Sep 4, 2018
400
As long as you don't tell them about your plans to ctb you should be fine.
My friend wants me to tell them everything - including that :aw:
 
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Schopenhauer

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Oct 3, 2018
1,133
My friend wants me to tell them everything - including that :aw:

Don't tell them anything, just say it's a passing sadness and you're feeling better. Specially since you're a minor, these people can have a great deal of power over you. Mention plans for the future, drop a hint of a romantic interest. They are suckers for this stuff. Whatever you do, don't talk about ctb.
 
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nzdarkshark

The Loved Mistake
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400
Don't tell them anything, just say it's a passing sadness and you're feeling better. Specially since you're a minor, these people can have a great deal of power over you. Mention plans for the future, drop a hint of a romantic interest. They are suckers for this stuff. Whatever you do, don't talk about ctb.

Ok - I'll try my best - if my friend gets mad at me I'll just simply tell him that I was protecting myself.
 
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sadsoul

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Sep 9, 2018
440
My friend wants me to tell them everything - including that :aw:
I'm sorry you're in this situation :( Try not to let yourself get pressured into telling them anything you don't want to tell them. I really hope your appointment goes well :(
 
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Wishing you the best for your appointment.
 
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sadsoul

Alive and unwell
Sep 9, 2018
440
Don't tell them anything, just say it's a passing sadness and you're feeling better. Specially since you're a minor, these people can have a great deal of power over you. Mention plans for the future, drop a hint of a romantic interest. They are suckers for this stuff. Whatever you do, don't talk about ctb.
This. It's very easy to fool them if you know what they wanna hear.
 
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scales

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Oct 18, 2018
214
Ok - I'll try my best - if my friend gets mad at me I'll just simply tell him that I was protecting myself.

Okay so, for another person here I recommended talking about the future etc. in order to get out of mental health hospitals and such. In your situation I don't think lying is the best thing.

I don't think you need to tell them the extent of your plans to ctb but there's nothing wrong with telling a mental health provider you have suicidal thoughts, avoid going into more detail. That will give you the most help, especially if your friends or family speak to the mental health provider and give a different story from yours. You don't want that.
 
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scales

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Oct 18, 2018
214
Don't tell them anything, just say it's a passing sadness and you're feeling better. Specially since you're a minor, these people can have a great deal of power over you. Mention plans for the future, drop a hint of a romantic interest. They are suckers for this stuff. Whatever you do, don't talk about ctb.

This is great advice for people who want to get out of the system or don't want to recover or are done and 100% ready to ctb. OP seems like they're underage and actually hoping for recovery, I think in their situation it may be beneficial to be more honest. Obviously, giving detailed plans isn't the best thing... but simply mentioning suicidal thoughts is alright and will likely help in the recovery process.
 
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Schopenhauer

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Oct 3, 2018
1,133
This is great advice for people who want to get out of the system or don't want to recover or are done and 100% ready to ctb. OP seems like they're underage and actually hoping for recovery, I think in their situation it may be beneficial to be more honest. Obviously, giving detailed plans isn't the best thing... but simply mentioning suicidal thoughts is alright and will likely help in the recovery process.

I had the opposite impression, from other threads: that she wants to get out as badly as the rest of us.

Besides, I'm highly skeptical of health care personnel. But I do admit my bias.
 
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TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
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In the case that friends and family may tell a different story to the mental health professionals, then yes it wouldn't be the best to outright lie, but like @scales said, it's better to not have anything detailed in regards to plans, but keep it as vague as possible. Additionally, if you do lie, maybe you could also lie to your friend (shitty thing but if it's your freedom and protecting yourself from future trouble, then it may be worth it to consider it).
 
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scales

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214
I had the opposite impression, from other threads: that she wants to get out as badly as the rest of us.

Besides, I'm highly skeptical of health care personnel. But I do admit my bias.

If that is the case then your advice is good. I have to admit I have not read their other threads, but assumed that if they have friends giving them advice and are nervous about a visit to a mental health professional than they haven't tried much yet and are capable of recovery, and have some support at least. That's someone I would personally think wants to recover even if the depth of their feelings are just like ours.
 
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nzdarkshark

The Loved Mistake
Sep 4, 2018
400
I lied to them.
I told them I want to survive. I said I have constant suicidal thoughts but I want to get better.
But the trouble is I told my school couciler on friday about my plans. This could go south.

I feel shit for lying to them. But I don't want to be locked up.
 
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nzdarkshark

The Loved Mistake
Sep 4, 2018
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If that is the case then your advice is good. I have to admit I have not read their other threads, but assumed that if they have friends giving them advice and are nervous about a visit to a mental health professional than they haven't tried much yet and are capable of recovery, and have some support at least. That's someone I would personally think wants to recover even if the depth of their feelings are just like ours.
I don't want to recover. I'm just paranoid I'll end up saying the wrong thing to the wrong person and my plans will be undoable.
 
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BaconCheeseburger

BaconCheeseburger

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Aug 4, 2018
693
Only tell them what you're comfortable telling them, don't worry about what your friend wants - it's your appointment not theirs
 
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scales

Resident Slime
Oct 18, 2018
214
I don't want to recover. I'm just paranoid I'll end up saying the wrong thing to the wrong person and my plans will be undoable.

If you don't want to recover than yeah telling them the truth is bad and will have bad consequences. That person gave good advice on acting as if everything is fine overall. Don't be afraid to talk about suicidal thoughts but don't at all talk about your plans, methods etc.

So just stuff like "I want to die sometimes" but never "I have sodium nitrite and will kill myself."
 
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scales

Resident Slime
Oct 18, 2018
214
I lied to them.
I told them I want to survive. I said I have constant suicidal thoughts but I want to get better.
But the trouble is I told my school couciler on friday about my plans. This could go south.

I feel shit for lying to them. But I don't want to be locked up.

If they ask tell them you want to recover and that you aren't serious about those plans you told your school counselor. As long as you sound like you want to get better you should have freedom. I think, it's probabtl harder because you're young and unfortunately adults don't treat you as an equal.
 
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nzdarkshark

The Loved Mistake
Sep 4, 2018
400
If they ask tell them you want to recover and that you aren't serious about those plans you told your school counselor. As long as you sound like you want to get better you should have freedom. I think, it's probabtl harder because you're young and unfortunately adults don't treat you as an equal.

Yeah..that might be the best option. I'm not 100% great at lying but I think when it comes to this I can.
 
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