Help So I think I found my method. Are there any revisions I should make before doing it? Please let me know

[wuaroi]

Hi guys, so after years of researching different methods and 30< suicide attempts later + 2 hospitalizations I believe that I have found a nearly perfect method potentially but before I do it I want to know if theres any thing that could go wrong with it or anything that I should fix.

Quick background :
I know this sounds weird and the setting this suicide would take place in is arguably weirder, I am literally positive that this is not only the only place id be able to do this but H2S is probably the only method I can do currently.

My method along with my current plan:

Preparation - I will be going on a camping trip soon so at night when everyone else is asleep Id leave and go somewhere that I dont think anyone would check and do the following.

Set up - I plan to mix iron sulfide powder and a drain cleaner called lime-A-way which has hydrochloric acid in it, into a metal water bottle with with the whole open. Mind you this would be taking place in a smallish trash bag and the bottle being higher than the bottom of the bag since H2S is heavier than air but Id still be taking percations to make sure its not going to go everywhere.

Action - after like a few minutes or something I will remove the bottle and close it and place it somewhere else while I hold the bag shut (with the opening furthest from the ground). Then I will take the deepest breath I can, close my eyes, put my head down into the bag and pull the strings closed. And as a extra step just in case I will tighten a belt around my neck to prevent the gas from leaving when I sit back up right.

The end? - Then lastly (hopefully at least) I will take the biggest gasp that I humanly can through my mouth and just hope I pass out in seconds.

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I really appreciate you for takeing your time to read this and I really do need your advice because I literally cannot fail another attempt especially with this being such high stecks . So will this 100% work? And is there anything that I can do to make it as painless as possible with my current supplies?

Have a nice day and thank you.

 

[avalokitesvara]

I don't know anything about this particular method but from what you've written I'd say it sounds like quite a lot of things that could potentially go wrong. What if the mixture doesn't produce the right amount of gas? What if you don't get the bag sealed quick enough? What if you pass out before securing the bag and end up introducing oxygen? What if someone catches you leaving the camp? Or finds your supplies before you can even attempt?
If you need a completely cast-iron method this seems unlikely.

 

[Margin3458]

It might be possible that you slip out of the bag, or dont hit the concentration. Have you done any tests or calculation for the gas generation?
I also want to use the H2S route, but i will make the gas from Aluminium Sulfide. You dont need any acid you just throw it into water and it will release a lot of gas quickly. Also I will use a sealed tent maybe.

 

[Intoxicated]

Set up - I plan to mix iron sulfide powder and a drain cleaner called lime-A-way which has hydrochloric acid in it, into a metal water bottle with with the whole open.

You should pay attention to the kind of metal used there, since hydrochloric acid can react with many metals. In particular, HCl aggressively reacts with aluminium and can destroy a thin vessel made of it in a minute. If that bottle is made of stainless steel, it's OK. You could use a plastic bottle as well (not all sorts of plastic are appropriate for storing hydrochloric acid for a long time, but they are generally durable enough for dealing with HCl within a day).

Mind you this would be taking place in a smallish trash bag and the bottle being higher than the bottom of the bag since H2S is heavier than air

I don't think that slightly higher density of H2S is worth any special handling here, since the difference in relation to air is just too small. H2S is nearly as dense as air and can mix easily with it (like nitrogen can easily mix with oxygen forming a homogeneous gas mixture).

Then I will take the deepest breath I can, close my eyes, put my head down into the bag and pull the strings closed. And as a extra step just in case I will tighten a belt around my neck to prevent the gas from leaving when I sit back up right.

The end? - Then lastly (hopefully at least) I will take the biggest gasp that I humanly can through my mouth and just hope I pass out in seconds.

You should hold your breath till the bag is completely sealed. Even 5 seconds of breathing with H2S at 700 ppm can be enough to overwhelm some people according to this video

View attachment H2S.mp4

And is there anything that I can do to make it as painless as possible with my current supplies?

You could consider replacing hydrochloric acid with dilute sulfuric acid which doesn't emit irritating fumes.

 

[L'absent]

Interesting, you should lose consciousness quickly.

 

[atre]

You could consider replacing hydrochloric acid with dilute sulfuric acid which doesn't emit irritating fumes.

I don't have any chemistry background so don't mind me if my question sounds stupid. Do you know if sulfuric acid reacts with calcium polysulfides (the ones in lime sulfur) to produce H2S? I would imagine it does not react because I could not find anything relating to that when I searched H2So4+ CaS/CaS5.

 

[Intoxicated]

Do you know if sulfuric acid reacts with calcium polysulfides (the ones in lime sulfur) to produce H2S? I would imagine it does not react because I could not find anything relating to that when I searched H2So4+ CaS/CaS5.

They should react, producing CaSO4 which is almost insoluble in water and probably can form a lot of foam filled with H2S bubbles. This can cause some complications, so HCl would probably be a better choice than H2SO4 in case of using calcium sulfides.

Na2S + H2SO4 or FeS + H2SO4 should be OK, because the produced Na2SO4 and FeSO4 are well-soluble in water.

 

[Margin3458]

They should react, producing CaSO4 which is almost insoluble in water and probably can form a lot of foam filled with H2S bubbles. This can cause some complications, so HCl would probably be a better choice than H2SO4 in case of using calcium sulfides.

NaS + H2SO4 or FeS + H2SO4 should be OK, because the produced Na2SO4 and FeSO4 are well-soluble in water.

What do you think about using it completely acid free with Aluminum Sulfide? You just need to throw that in water

 

[atre]

They should react, producing CaSO4 which is almost insoluble in water and probably can form a lot of foam filled with H2S bubbles. This can cause some complications, so HCl would probably be a better choice than H2SO4 in case of using calcium sulfides.

NaS + H2SO4 or FeS + H2SO4 should be OK, because the produced Na2SO4 and FeSO4 are well-soluble in water.

Thank you really much. Only available method for me regarding H2S would be HCL+CasO4 if I chose to go by H2S (which I probably won't, unless I cannot secure other methods and become desperate). I heard hydrocloric acid and CasO4 combination creates a contaminated fume [(H2S gas contaminated with acidic fumes) just like how the COGEN (formic acid+sulfuric acid) produces CO with acidic fumes if you don't pass it through a water wash]. So one has to expect quite a painful inhalation probably.

 

[Intoxicated]

What do you think about using it completely acid free with Aluminum Sulfide? You just need to throw that in water

That's a very good method (MgS can be hydrolyzed too), but Al2S3 or MgS can be harder to obtain than FeS or Na2S. You can burn a mixture of aluminium powder and sulfur powder to make Al2S3, but this is not something you'd want to do at home, since it produces a lot of irritating sulfur dioxide. It's like burning 1000+ matches at once )))

 

[Margin3458]

That's a very good method (MgS can be hydrolyzed too), but Al2S3 or MgS can be harder to obtain than FeS or Na2S. You can burn a mixture of aluminium powder and sulfur powder to make Al2S3, but this is not something you'd want to do at home, since it produces a lot of irritating sulfur dioxide. It's like burning 1000+ matches at once )))

Yeah thats true, it needs to be prepared by yourself because none probably can probably buy it. But this 2Al + 3S -> Al2S3 can be done outside and the resulting product cant be stored in an airtight container. I did this on small scale once and got roughly 10 g of it but it was horrible to store. It is currently stored in two bags and two glass jars put into each other. But aluminum and sulfur powder is probably available in most countries.

 

[Intoxicated]

Only available method for me regarding H2S would be HCL+CasO4

What is CasO4? By the way, polysulfides probably also produce foam upon reaction with HCl because of insoluble sulfur which occurs as a byproduct. It's better to use sulfides without polysulfides.

But this 2Al + 3S -> Al2S3 can be done outside and the resulting product cant be stored in an airtight container. I did this on small scale once and got roughly 10 g of it but it was horrible to store. It is currently stored in two bags and two glass jars put into each other.

I think, as long as you prevent exposure to moisture, it could be stored well enough. Perhaps it makes sense to pour something like CaCl2 nearby. But yes, you likely need several containers nested one in another to prevent bad smell coming out of it.

But aluminum and sulfur powder is probably available in most countries.

Probably. In my country, they are also very cheap. Aluminium and sulfur together can be purchased for less than $5 here ))

 

[atre]

What is CasO4? By the way, polysulfides probably also produce foam upon reaction with HCl because of insoluble sulfur which occurs as a byproduct. It's better to use sulfides without polysulfides.

I meant the lime sulphur (sorry caso4 is apparently calcium sulphate :D my bad) which is used as a pesticide and contains polysulphides as the active ingredient. Lime sulphur + hydrochloric acid method is present in the peaceful pill handbook as a way to produce H2S fumes in the 2022 version. So I guess even with the foams you mentioned, there would be enough H2S production (by enough, probably 1000ppm is sufficient for death).
I know iron II sulphide (FeS) is a better ingredient for this method, but unfortunately they are not available to buy where I live.

 

[Intoxicated]

So I guess even with the foams you mentioned, there would be enough H2S production (by enough, probably 1000ppm is sufficient for death).

Of course, many bubbles will break and release H2S. The problem is that the mixture may quickly leave the vessel like boiling milk, especially if you use concentrated acid and the reaction goes violently. Using concentrated hydrochloric acid is also disadvantageous because it emits highly corrosive and irritating hydrogen chloride intensively. If the concentration of HCl is 35-38%, it makes sense to dilute it in water at least at 1:1 proportion to reduce the volatility (this should be done inside a well-ventilated space).