Sodium azide megathread

[Arak]

Currently there is no thread dedicated to SA that is anything like the SN megathread. Just a few small threads.
Not surprising, it most likely is a very brutal method.

For a couple of reasons I have decided to create this thread. Maybe some people will decide to post in this one unless they have a specific question that warrants a separate thread.

Starting with a few posts re: SA in the SN megathread, and a collection of existing SA threads.

SA case reports off forum:
Sn megathread

Sn megathread

A bunch of SA threads:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/azide.1575/#post-118812

I actually question the 2nd ebay offer from Poland. Mostly unknown seller, unknown product, 'advertised as'.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sa.6989/#post-116365

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sodium-azide-or-sodium-nitrite.6996/

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sodium-azide-or-acepromazine.6539/#post-110107

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/azide.1575/#post-100061

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sodium-azide.5615/#post-89945

Feel free to add any missing threads.

 

[Arak]

Much harder to locate than I had expected. Easy off amazon in the USA, but this is not the USA ... I can't really find anything except for a rather unknown seller on ebay, nondescript item.

Since it's so brutal it's not exactly my favorite but I feel I need to make preparations. Lots of websites have restrictions.
httpx://www.thistlescientific.co.ukdoesn't mention any, but since they want your personal data (phone, name, address) I'm asking. I'm not aware of any formal legal restrictions in Europe, but I'm not quite sure. It's not unusual that suppliers like Sigma Aaldrich have all sorts of registration requirements.

Anny comments on availability ? I do not want to be scammed by an unknown seller on ebay offering a nondescript product.'

 

[MAIO]

Currently there is no thread dedicated to SA that is anything like the SN megathread. Just a few small threads.
Not surprising, it most likely is a very brutal method.

For a couple of reasons I have decided to create this thread. Maybe some people will decide to post in this one unless they have a specific question that warrants a separate thread.

Starting with a few posts re: SA in the SN megathread, and a collection of existing SA threads.

SA case reports off forum:
Sn megathread

Sn megathread

A bunch of SA threads:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/azide.1575/#post-118812

I actually question the 2nd ebay offer from Poland. Mostly unknown seller, unknown product, 'advertised as'.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sa.6989/#post-116365

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sodium-azide-or-sodium-nitrite.6996/

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sodium-azide-or-acepromazine.6539/#post-110107

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/azide.1575/#post-100061

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sodium-azide.5615/#post-89945

Feel free to add any missing threads.

Do you think you could combine sodium nitrite and Aizide as a suicide method?

 

[Deutschv2]

Do you think you could combine sodium nitrite and Aizide as a suicide method?

I wouldn't recommend. I think nitrite has a bad affect on azide as i remember patients coming into a hospital from azide poinsining would be treated with SN. Ironically enough.

Question: is fasting imperitive to this? I'd like to get fucked up before. If not is a can of wine beforehand a good idea? I'll fast for 8ish hours

 

[Finallyhere]

Apparently they sell it at grainger lab supply in SoCal.

 

[Arak]

@Finallyhere , good for those in the USA. Not that hard to get over there. Even amazon offers it. In Europe it's different. I'm not sure how customs would react ...

@Deutschv2 , I'd do it with an empty stomach, and empty small intestines.

 

[NoDream]

In sweden it was a woman who CTB with Azide a week ago. She did it in a motel.
The police took it very seriously and called in the bomb group.

I didnt know it was explosive?

 

[Deutschv2]

In sweden it was a woman who CTB with Azide a week ago. She did it in a motel.
The police took it very seriously and called in the bomb group.

I didnt know it was explosive?

It is if it comes in contact with metal. Its why PPeH say mix the concotion with plastic spoon. Not metal

 

[voool]

Why doesn't someone from USA ship azide to Europe

 

[Alastor]

Why doesn't someone from USA ship azide to Europe

There are suppliers in Europe as well...
X
...just to give some examples

 

[Arak]

@Alastor,

Companies like Sigma Aaldrich often have restrictions. Major suppliers to industry.
For this product, 'Compliance/Screening Notes: This order may require review prior to shipping.'' I haven't tried registering and ordering.

Camlab, 'Please Note: You may experience delivery delays when purchasing items from this category. If you are not a registered company, or you have requested delivery to a private address, we are unable to supply these items due to current transport regulations and mandatory Police checks'

It is not always as easy as it seems.

@voool,

Customs, legal restrictions ?

 

[Arak]

Bumping this once. Anyone who is considering this method ? It does seem very brutal at doses of 15 or 20 gr.

 

[Deutschv2]

Bumping this once. Anyone who is considering this method ? It does seem very brutal at doses of 15 or 20 gr.

Yes, I am, plan 30mg meto after 30-45min 4g azide.

 

[Arak]

@Deutschv2 ,

Meto first then SA or are you really serious ?

 

[Arak]

I'm just posting this because I stumbled on this:

https://emergency.cdc.gov/agent/sodiumazide/basics/facts.asp

Seems very brutal. Maybe I'm repeating myself.

 

[worldexploder]

I don't think SA is gonna catch on like SN. More painful and harder to obtain.

 

[Arak]

Was reading a bit, and linking a thread: https://8ch.net/suicide/res/34460.html

Side note, referring to a source not In English. '
Headache, dizziness and nausea occur within minutes of ingestion. "There will be a strong drop in blood pressure due to vasodilation. Further possible are: sore throat, vomiting, blurred vision, tingling, shortness of breath, confusion and cardiac arrhythmia.'

'
There is another problem. It is not exactly known by what mechanism the drug kills X2. The drug breaks down into other active substances, dilates blood vessels, blocks enzymes, binds oxygen-transporting molecules, halts energy metabolism and quickly reaches the brain. In short, it is a broad spectrum of metabolic poison and therefore somewhat unpredictable.
'

Back to 8chan: 'The pictured SA is available online in USA but it is not as pure I suspect for lab use only. Other chem companies advertise purity over 99% but public can't buy those. Without being a chemist you could be left brain and heart damaged, etc. and survive. All the recommendations here should be aware of that who have purchased this.It is also less expensive than purer forms from lab companies.Chemist have succeeded and knew which SA to use plus hey could order it. Public can't do that. PPH is garbage except for ideas and concepts IMO'

I'm not sure what to think of that ! Anyone ?

Not exactly a peaceful slumber ...

 

[Arak]

Note, post #2 'www.thistlescientific.co.uk' does not allow shipping from UK to other countries, it seems.

I tried to place an order. I'm pissed off. If anyone knows a source ? At this moment, nothing on ebay worldwide ! As if a war against this has been going on. Please help if you can.

I even tried a French source. It seems they require a validation procedure. So no go. I backed out of that one, after having registered !

Anyone, Europe ? Help !

 

[Cody111]

Hard to find in Australia and need a licence to purchase or possess.

 

[hunter_lewis]

How painful is SA really? I have heard something about a severe headache and some people taking up to a few hours to die, BUT these are rumors and I do not know if they are true at all.

 

[Arak]

Note, post #2 'www.thistlescientific.co.uk' does not allow shipping from UK to other countries, it seems.

I tried to place an order. I'm pissed off. If anyone knows a source ? At this moment, nothing on ebay worldwide ! As if a war against this has been going on. Please help if you can.

I even tried a French source. It seems they require a validation procedure. So no go. I backed out of that one, after having registered !

Anyone, Europe ? Help !

Bumping this and replying to @hunter_lewis :

You may assume it;s very brutal. According to Nitschke two possible reactions: quick loss of consciousness and a slower, more prolongued course. Assume you'll want to undo the effects of the SA when you feel it. For me it's 'at least I have something that would work'.

I take it some local restrictions are recent. If you know of a source, please help.

 

[Arak]

This is wore than awful. Unless I can find a loophole I suspect I won't be able to get it in EU.

REACH guidelines in full effect. Pretty much controls entire supply line.

https://echa.europa.eu/guidance-documents/guidance-on-reach

Anyone ? Does anyone know of an alternative, and I don't mean the 'sedative' SN ? Quick, brutal for all I care ...

 

[worldexploder]

How painful is SA really? I have heard something about a severe headache and some people taking up to a few hours to die, BUT these are rumors and I do not know if they are true at all.

I wonder this too. Like - is it gonna be just a regular headache or the worst freaking headache imaginable. I also heard you get a rapid heart rate with it which would probably induce a panic attack.

According to the PPeHB it scores a 7/10 which means it should be relatively peaceful but uncomfortable. It's not a sedative like Nembutal (10/10).

 

[Deutschv2]

@Deutschv2 ,

Meto first then SA or are you really serious ?

I meant other way aroud, my bad

 

[Lifeisatrap]

I wonder this too. Like - is it gonna be just a regular headache or the worst freaking headache imaginable. I also heard you get a rapid heart rate with it which would probably induce a panic attack.

According to the PPeHB it scores a 7/10 which means it should be relatively peaceful but uncomfortable. It's not a sedative like Nembutal (10/10).

It actually scores 6/10, sn scores 7/10, and cyanide scores the lowest 5/10 if I remember correctly. The one advantage that sa has over sn is that it supposably works faster and has no anecdote.

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

I meant other way aroud, my bad

Your antiemetic always needs to be taken (1 hr) prior to taking any poison. Azide seems a bad death, mice treated with azide failed to lose consciousness per YouTube video.

 

[Arak]

Does anyone know how to get sodium azide in Europe ? Currently it's not even listen on ebay worldwide, although I've seen it on Amazon USA. Just won't ship here.
Sometime ago there was a seller in Poland, just not right now. I believe that earlier this year I had been in time.

 

[hunter_lewis]

I wonder this too. Like - is it gonna be just a regular headache or the worst freaking headache imaginable. I also heard you get a rapid heart rate with it which would probably induce a panic attack.

According to the PPeHB it scores a 7/10 which means it should be relatively peaceful but uncomfortable. It's not a sedative like Nembutal (10/10).

I've had severe migraines before for hours and hours on end that made me vomit every 5 minutes and the pain was so bad that I could barely walk-surely it cannot get any worse than that?
A friend of mine has cluster headaches and migraines and he said the cluster headaches were worse than the migraines, but not by far.
So maybe it is bearable if you have had severe pain before.

 

[worldexploder]

I've had severe migraines before for hours and hours on end that made me vomit every 5 minutes and the pain was so bad that I could barely walk-surely it cannot get any worse than that?
A friend of mine has cluster headaches and migraines and he said the cluster headaches were worse than the migraines, but not by far.
So maybe it is bearable if you have had severe pain before.

I use to get severe migraines when I was a kid. They were horrible. If I was set to die in 30 mins and those were the only symptoms than I could probably deal with it.

 

[hunter_lewis]

I use to get severe migraines when I was a kid. They were horrible. If I was set to die in 30 mins and those were the only symptoms than I could probably deal with it.

yeah, me too. I can deal with most of my migraines, provided they are not too painful. But I think using SA is like a severe migraine. Vomiting is also a typical symptom of SA. Of course, these are only MY assumptions, I don't know what it is really like.