Help Some questions regarding drowning

[ijustwishtodie]

I have some questions about drowning and I'd appreciate anybody who can answer all or some of the questions. If you're going to say stuff like "don't ctb in this way, you could access better methods" or anything else that's condescending, just don't bother to comment as I'm not in the mood to deal with shit like that right now. I know my questions may be common sense to most people on here but I'm really stupid and I need tips regarding this so that I don't get my life prolonged by SI or by a random pro lifer. I'd appreciate any tips that I can get as I'm getting to the point where I'm just so pissed at everything, especially my parents and I want to lash out at them to where they kick me out. If they do kick me out, I won't have much of a chance to plan and I'd immediately try to ctb so I want to do it right whilst I'm here but I can't figure anything out.

Also, just to clarify, I have searched on SS before making this thread but I'm making this thread because I couldn't find any answers.

For reference, I'm in the UK

Question 1: how can I find out how deep a river or lake or just any body of water is? Is there some sort of software tools or app or websites that can help me find out how deep a river is?

Question 2: aside from trying to ctb at night and during cold weather, how can I ensure that the river or lake that I choose to ctb at doesn't have any people there?

Question 3: how exactly can I ensure that I can carry a weight in a backpack that I'm wearing and lock said backpack in a way to where I can't get rid of the bag no matter how hard SI would force me to?

I'd appreciate any tips that I can get regarding this, thank you

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Q1: You could search for infos about the chosen lake. If it's not too small there might general info available. It's a bit more difficult about rivers bc it depends on where you measure the depth and rivers can be quite long. You can measure the depth either with sonar or with a stone tied to a thin line - but that is probably too complicated.

Q2: It's impossible to ensure this requirement.

Q3: Calculate diving weights. It's probably difficult to tie the bag to yourself in a way that you can't get rid of it, you may consider "connecting" it with the clothes you wear.

Just some ideas that came to my mind.

 

[SVEN]

Most lochs or lakes that have boating activities taking place on them will be deep enough for your purpose.
You can't really ensure 100% that there will never be anyone else around. Where I live in Scotland most lochs and deeper water seem to be most deserted in the early morning, 05.00 - 06.00 hrs.
I'd probably think that putting the backpack on the front of the body would be best at dragging you face down. Perhaps you could work out a way of securing it with a chain & padlock through the pack. Leave the key on the shore or bank, so you can recover it if SI kicks in. However once you are committed and in the water you won't be able to panic and unlock the pack.
Sorry I can't help more, but you have my best wishes. And I promise I wouldn't try to condescend or patronise you.

 

[TheDruBo]

This article is interesting as to how fast death can happen. > https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13912785/wim-hof-method-drowning-death-texas.html

 

[Alexei_Kirillov]

Question 1: how can I find out how deep a river or lake or just any body of water is? Is there some sort of software tools or app or websites that can help me find out how deep a river is?

i-Boating : Free Marine Navigation Charts & Fishing Maps

or

Garmin | Marine Maps

Marine Maps

maps.garmin.com

The minimum depth I look for is 5m. For bridges, I look for the shortest possible.

And to check the temperature: https://seatemperatures.net/ Aim for <10 degrees.

Question 2: aside from trying to ctb at night and during cold weather, how can I ensure that the river or lake that I choose to ctb at doesn't have any people there?

Best to just go there and scope the situation out beforehand, ideally at the time that you're planning to go at. 2-4AM is probably best, though I know that with your parents that's probably not doable for you, so you'd have to make do with another time.

Question 3: how exactly can I ensure that I can carry a weight in a backpack that I'm wearing and lock said backpack in a way to where I can't get rid of the bag no matter how hard SI would force me to?

I recommend a hiking backpack with plenty of straps and buckles. I bought mine used for $60. I then created a contraption where I rolled some thick fabric into an cylinder, such that there were two holes on each side (kind of like rolling up a yoga mat), then I buckled the backpack through the holes, stuffed some more fabric into the holes, then taped the whole thing up and added some zip ties on the other buckles for good measure.

For the weight, the formula I usually give people is 1029kg/m3 x (your bodyweight in kilos / 900kg/m3). 1029 is the density of salt water and 900 is the density of fat. So if you weigh 70kg, your "safety" number would be 1029 x (70/900) = 80kg, meaning you would need to carry at least another 10kg to make yourself sink.

Most lochs or lakes that have boating activities taking place on them will be deep enough for your purpose.
You can't really ensure 100% that there will never be anyone else around. Where I live in Scotland most lochs and deeper water seem to be most deserted in the early morning, 05.00 - 06.00 hrs.
I'd probably think that putting the backpack on the front of the body would be best at dragging you face down. Perhaps you could work out a way of securing it with a chain & padlock through the pack. Leave the key on the shore or bank, so you can recover it if SI kicks in. However once you are committed and in the water you won't be able to panic and unlock the pack.
Sorry I can't help more, but you have my best wishes. And I promise I wouldn't try to condescend or patronise you.

I second leaving a little "emergency kit" on the shore or bank. Always prepare a contingency for the worst-case scenario (which in this case is survival).