Story Starting my way to Pegasos

[Winona [restored]]

I decided to try my luck with Pegasos. I'll report on my steps in this thread if you don't mind. Perhaps you could give me some advice along the way. So, here is the beginning of my story. Thanks in advance for reading this.

Recently I decided to catch the bus with the help of N. from A., I've set the date, got my affairs in order, but I've made some stupid mistakes. E.g., I confessed to my family that I'm suicidal, and what was the worst, I quit taking benzos before the scheduled date, which made me incredibly anxious, nervous and unstable, therefore I just didn't manage to do it on a scheduled date.

Now I'm not sure anymore if I can even do this without any powerful trigger. But the decision to leave this world is final, I've done here for sure. I just don't have enough courage to do it on my own. Therefore, the perfect option for me, as for many other members of this board, would be assisted euthanasia.

In one of the 2020 PPeH versions, I found out about Pegasos, who help not only the terminally ill people. I emailed them, asking if I could count on their help, and described my situation. I am a female in my early 30s, I suffer from BPD, OCD, anxiety, depression and a lot of phobias, but this has never been officially diagnosed. Pegasos did not refuse me because of the age, which is already good. As I understand, to be approved by Pegasos I need to have a rather serious diagnosis of mental illness, but at the same time their specialists will evaluate my sanity and ability to make decisions on my own.

They can't guarantee me anything and in order for my candidacy to be considered, I need to send them the most recent medical documents confirming my health condition. In the worst case of being rejected, I will just lose 1500 euros of the deposit. But what is money compared to the chance to leave peacefully and safe?!

I live in Eastern Europe, and as long as there are travel restrictions due to COVID-19, I still can't get to Switzerland at the moment, so I have plenty of time to start gathering medical documents. The problem is that in my country mental health certificates can only be issued by public health facilities, but not by private psychotherapists. Our system of public psychiatric medicine is more like a penitentiary system, in the best traditions of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", so I absolutely do not want to go to the mental hospital, but I started visiting a psychiatrist at a state neuropsychiatric clinic.

At the first appointment, I told the psychiatrist about most of my symptoms, except for my wish to CTB, of course. So far he has prescribed me Paroxetinum, Quetixol and Hydazepam. Of all these drugs, I've been taking only Hydazepam for a long time, this benzo helps me to cope with anxiety. Quetixol can make me a veg and deprive me of the opportunity to do my job properly, so I'm not gonna even try it, and also I see no point in taking the Paroxetinum (antidepressant), because I don't want to treat depression, I just need a diagnosis.

My next visit to the psychiatrist will take place in a month. What do you think I'd better tell him about the effects of the meds I'm supposed to take? I want to emphasize that I only need the evidence of my illness (but not the improvement of its symptoms).

What do you think, do I have a chance that my candidacy will be approved in Pegasos eventually?

 

[rt1989526]

Good luck to you. I made contact with them as well but gave up as soon as they told me I needed to meet with their psychiatrists. I just assumed I won't be approved because my problems are all mental. I have the exact same problems as you so please keep me posted.

 

[WornOutLife]

Best way to CTB ever.
Wish you the best and hope you find peace!

 

[Winona [restored]]

Good luck to you. I made contact with them as well but gave up as soon as they told me I needed to meet with their psychiatrists. I just assumed I won't be approved because my problems are all mental. I have the exact same problems as you so please keep me posted.

May I ask you what exactly scared you in meeting their psychiatrist? As far as I understood from what they told me, If you have proofs of your mental illness from your home country, which fit their criteria, their psychiatrist only confirms your mental capacity to make a VAD decision, but not your diagnosis. Or am I wrong?

 

[StateOfMind]

I feel like this will not work for most people on this forum.
Unless you are severely fucked up and have some money.
But maybe I'm wrong and you get lucky.
I wish you much success!

 

[Meditation guide]

I'm in no condition to jump through all the hoops they put in place. Also it could be a very long time before covid travel restrictions are lifted. I qualify but the documentation, running to doctors trying to get the paperwork from them without actually telling them why you need it is a problem.

And getting it all within just six months, you really need to be able to run around to doctors, get exactly the lengthy written reports you need, not just a simple brief letter with a diagnosis but an in depth full detailed account of your life and your illnesses. I don't know any doctors willing to do that. Or at least do it accurately.

Any doctors I have tried to deal with get you in and out in 10 or 15 minutes and it's on to the next patient.

Dignitas wants a copy of your birth certificate. And not just any copy will do. It has to be issued within six months, and has to be the long form one, not the short version. Where I was born the system is so screwed up they don't even keep records like that, those are long gone.

 

[rt1989526]

May I ask you what exactly scared you in meeting their psychiatrist? As far as I understood from what they told me, If you have proofs of your mental illness from your home country, which fit their criteria, their psychiatrist only confirms your mental capacity to make a VAD decision, but not your diagnosis. Or am I wrong?

Yes but I believe my history of depression will render me "not rational" and I'll simply lose a bunch of money in the process. I am also in my early 30s so it only increases the chances of rejection.

 

[Winona [restored]]

running to doctors trying to get the paperwork from them without actually telling them why you need it is a problem.

Yep, people tend to apply for treatment, but not for papers usually)
I contacted with several different clinics in my country and everywhere, first of all, I tried to figure out what kind of documents they could provide. They were surprised, but I explained this by the fact that I plan to go for treatment to a good clinic abroad, which asks for these documents. In my third world country with our terrible level of medicine, that sounds convincing

And getting it all within just six months, you really need to be able to run around to doctors

Did they tell you something about six months term? It seems like I missed that. Could you please explain?

Dignitas wants a copy of your birth certificate. And not just any copy will do. It has to be issued within six months, and has to be the long form one, not the short version. Where I was born the system is so screwed up they don't even keep records like that, those are long gone.

I'm so sorry to hear that despite you qualify, you would have to go through these exhaustive and unbearable procedural requirements. It is so unfair for a person who suffers(

 

[Meditation guide]

I hope you are accepted by them and please do let us know what happens. I've only dealt with Dignitas, which was a joke. Hoping things go well for you.

 

[turquoise]

I hope you are accepted by them and please do let us know what happens. I've only dealt with Dignitas, which was a joke. Hoping things go well for you.

What was your experience with Dignitas like? Could you share?

 

[Meditation guide]

What was your experience with Dignitas like? Could you share?

Very condescending attitudes. Impossible hoops to jump through about the need for records within the last six months, copy of LONG form of birth certificate obtained within the last six months, demands for huge sums of money throughout.

 

[turquoise]

I applied to Pegasos after exchanging several emails with them. They said they'd have to see my medical records to be able to make a definitive decision on my condition. I sent them the money about one week ago and now they've gone silent. Before this they were very responsive and didn't demand payment. They only said I'd have to submit a VAD application in order for them to review my records.

I've sent a couple of follow up emails, but have received no response. They haven't even acknowledged the receipt of the money.

I'm wondering what's going on. Surely they can't be. scam because many people have been in touch with them and there are press mentions of them. They were also quite prompt in responding earlier and never once pressured me for payment.
Has anyone else applied? What was your experience?

By the way, I'm unsure how to start a new thread. It seems I only have the ability to respond to existing threads..

Very condescending attitudes. Impossible hoops to jump through about the need for records within the last six months, copy of LONG form of birth certificate obtained within the last six months, demands for huge sums of money throughout.

Pegasos has similar requirements when it comes to records within six months. Might be a legal requirement imposed by Switzerland. The condescending attitude is very disheartening to her about :-( And demands for money are also not pleasant. Very sad.

I decided to try my luck with Pegasos. I'll report on my steps in this thread if you don't mind. Perhaps you could give me some advice along the way. So, here is the beginning of my story. Thanks in advance for reading this.

Recently I decided to catch the bus with the help of N. from A., I've set the date, got my affairs in order, but I've made some stupid mistakes. E.g., I confessed to my family that I'm suicidal, and what was the worst, I quit taking benzos before the scheduled date, which made me incredibly anxious, nervous and unstable, therefore I just didn't manage to do it on a scheduled date.

Now I'm not sure anymore if I can even do this without any powerful trigger. But the decision to leave this world is final, I've done here for sure. I just don't have enough courage to do it on my own. Therefore, the perfect option for me, as for many other members of this board, would be assisted euthanasia.

In one of the 2020 PPeH versions, I found out about Pegasos, who help not only the terminally ill people. I emailed them, asking if I could count on their help, and described my situation. I am a female in my early 30s, I suffer from BPD, OCD, anxiety, depression and a lot of phobias, but this has never been officially diagnosed. Pegasos did not refuse me because of the age, which is already good. As I understand, to be approved by Pegasos I need to have a rather serious diagnosis of mental illness, but at the same time their specialists will evaluate my sanity and ability to make decisions on my own.

They can't guarantee me anything and in order for my candidacy to be considered, I need to send them the most recent medical documents confirming my health condition. In the worst case of being rejected, I will just lose 1500 euros of the deposit. But what is money compared to the chance to leave peacefully and safe?!

I live in Eastern Europe, and as long as there are travel restrictions due to COVID-19, I still can't get to Switzerland at the moment, so I have plenty of time to start gathering medical documents. The problem is that in my country mental health certificates can only be issued by public health facilities, but not by private psychotherapists. Our system of public psychiatric medicine is more like a penitentiary system, in the best traditions of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", so I absolutely do not want to go to the mental hospital, but I started visiting a psychiatrist at a state neuropsychiatric clinic.

At the first appointment, I told the psychiatrist about most of my symptoms, except for my wish to CTB, of course. So far he has prescribed me Paroxetinum, Quetixol and Hydazepam. Of all these drugs, I've been taking only Hydazepam for a long time, this benzo helps me to cope with anxiety. Quetixol can make me a veg and deprive me of the opportunity to do my job properly, so I'm not gonna even try it, and also I see no point in taking the Paroxetinum (antidepressant), because I don't want to treat depression, I just need a diagnosis.

My next visit to the psychiatrist will take place in a month. What do you think I'd better tell him about the effects of the meds I'm supposed to take? I want to emphasize that I only need the evidence of my illness (but not the improvement of its symptoms).

What do you think, do I have a chance that my candidacy will be approved in Pegasos eventually?

My understanding is that being a young person with mental illness makes things quite tricky, if not impossible. They say in their FAQs:

Pegasos does not accept young people with depression or other severe mental illness. Rather, Pegasos will refer such applications to counselling services such as those published on the Pegasos website.

Did they give you any indication of what types of mental illness are considered severe enough for them to accept you?

 

[Winona [restored]]

By the way, I'm unsure how to start a new thread. It seems I only have the ability to respond to existing threads..

You should see a "Post thread" button in the upper right corner:
If you don't see it, you'll probably have to write some more posts, according to the FAQ: " The permissions to create a thread, send and receive PMs, and to use the chatroom will be granted automatically after you post a certain secret number of times and are active for at least 24 hours. "

My understanding is that being a young person with mental illness makes things quite tricky, if not impossible. They say in their FAQs:

Pegasos does not accept young people with depression or other severe mental illness. Rather, Pegasos will refer such applications to counselling services such as those published on the Pegasos website.

Did they give you any indication of what types of mental illness are considered severe enough for them to accept you?

I'm so sorry that you are going through this uncertain situation with sending money and not receiving feedback. It's so frustrating. I hope they will show up soon. Fingers crossed!

I've read that they immediately rejected people in their 20s and younger before payment, apparently they do not consider young those who are 30+ (at least I hope so). I did not ask them about what mental illnesses are considered severe enough, I just asked if they accept people with BPD. I was told that they should study my medical papers and evaluate my ability to make decisions on my own.

 

[Buffy5120]

I decided to try my luck with Pegasos. I'll report on my steps in this thread if you don't mind. Perhaps you could give me some advice along the way. So, here is the beginning of my story. Thanks in advance for reading this.

Recently I decided to catch the bus with the help of N. from A., I've set the date, got my affairs in order, but I've made some stupid mistakes. E.g., I confessed to my family that I'm suicidal, and what was the worst, I quit taking benzos before the scheduled date, which made me incredibly anxious, nervous and unstable, therefore I just didn't manage to do it on a scheduled date.

Now I'm not sure anymore if I can even do this without any powerful trigger. But the decision to leave this world is final, I've done here for sure. I just don't have enough courage to do it on my own. Therefore, the perfect option for me, as for many other members of this board, would be assisted euthanasia.

In one of the 2020 PPeH versions, I found out about Pegasos, who help not only the terminally ill people. I emailed them, asking if I could count on their help, and described my situation. I am a female in my early 30s, I suffer from BPD, OCD, anxiety, depression and a lot of phobias, but this has never been officially diagnosed. Pegasos did not refuse me because of the age, which is already good. As I understand, to be approved by Pegasos I need to have a rather serious diagnosis of mental illness, but at the same time their specialists will evaluate my sanity and ability to make decisions on my own.

They can't guarantee me anything and in order for my candidacy to be considered, I need to send them the most recent medical documents confirming my health condition. In the worst case of being rejected, I will just lose 1500 euros of the deposit. But what is money compared to the chance to leave peacefully and safe?!

I live in Eastern Europe, and as long as there are travel restrictions due to COVID-19, I still can't get to Switzerland at the moment, so I have plenty of time to start gathering medical documents. The problem is that in my country mental health certificates can only be issued by public health facilities, but not by private psychotherapists. Our system of public psychiatric medicine is more like a penitentiary system, in the best traditions of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", so I absolutely do not want to go to the mental hospital, but I started visiting a psychiatrist at a state neuropsychiatric clinic.

At the first appointment, I told the psychiatrist about most of my symptoms, except for my wish to CTB, of course. So far he has prescribed me Paroxetinum, Quetixol and Hydazepam. Of all these drugs, I've been taking only Hydazepam for a long time, this benzo helps me to cope with anxiety. Quetixol can make me a veg and deprive me of the opportunity to do my job properly, so I'm not gonna even try it, and also I see no point in taking the Paroxetinum (antidepressant), because I don't want to treat depression, I just need a diagnosis.

My next visit to the psychiatrist will take place in a month. What do you think I'd better tell him about the effects of the meds I'm supposed to take? I want to emphasize that I only need the evidence of my illness (but not the improvement of its symptoms).

What do you think, do I have a chance that my candidacy will be approved in Pegasos eventually?

So any updates?

 

[Winona [restored]]

So any updates?

Sorry, no updates are coming soon from me, since I'm not able to apply at the moment because of corona restrictions, I don't think they will be lifted soon(

Let's wait for the updates from @turquoise who had already applied

 

[turquoise]

Very condescending attitudes. Impossible hoops to jump through about the need for records within the last six months, copy of LONG form of birth certificate obtained within the last six months, demands for huge sums of money throughout.

Pegasos has similar requirements when it comes to records within six months. Might be a legal requirement imposed by Switzerland. The condescending attitude is very disheartening to her about :-( And demands for money are also not pleasant. Very sad.

You should see a "Post thread" button in the upper right corner:

If you don't see it, you'll probably have to write some more posts, according to the FAQ: " The permissions to create a thread, send and receive PMs, and to use the chatroom will be granted automatically after you post a certain secret number of times and are active for at least 24 hours. "

I'm so sorry that you are going through this uncertain situation with sending money and not receiving feedback. It's so frustrating. I hope they will show up soon. Fingers crossed!

I've read that they immediately rejected people in their 20s and younger before payment, apparently they do not consider young those who are 30+ (at least I hope so). I did not ask them about what mental illnesses are considered severe enough, I just asked if they accept people with BPD. I was told that they should study my medical papers and evaluate my ability to make decisions on my own.

I finally got an email from them acknowledging receipt of my payment. No idea why it took them so long or why they stopped replying.

Sorry, no updates are coming soon from me, since I'm not able to apply at the moment because of corona restrictions, I don't think they will be lifted soon(

Let's wait for the updates from @turquoise who had already applied

I think you can still apply even with the COVID restrictions in place. You'd have to wait for borders to open before going there, but they might open sooner to Eastern Europe than to the rest of the world.

 

[Meditation guide]

The condescending attitude is very disheartening to her about

I got an email after I sent them one saying it was going to be very hard for me to get long detailed letters from several doctors describing my complete medical history and current problems that said:
"Our doctors won't examine you!"

I hadn't asked that.

They want like a ten page medical history from more than one doctor that goes into minute details about my medical history for at least the last ten years or more. How can I get that when the only doctors I've seen in ten years A. one never took any notes I found out, and B. Only spend ten minutes with me and go out the door?

It would be a miracle to get one to put two scribbled illegible sentences on a scrap of paper.

Where are these doctors who will sit down and write up and have typed a complete medical history of me in detail?
None that I've ever found.

 

[Buffy5120]

I got an email after I sent them one saying it was going to be very hard for me to get long detailed letters from several doctors describing my complete medical history and current problems that said:
"Our doctors won't examine you!"

I hadn't asked that.

They want like a ten page medical history from more than one doctor that goes into minute details about my medical history for at least the last ten years or more. How can I get that when the only doctors I've seen in ten years A. one never took any notes I found out, and B. Only spend ten minutes with me and go out the door?

It would be a miracle to get one to put two scribbled illegible sentences on a scrap of paper.

Where are these doctors who will sit down and write up and have typed a complete medical history of me in detail?
None that I've ever found.

Can u just fake it at this point does it even matter just go online look at fake doctors medical notes type it yourself...i actually made a fake doctors note for wisdom tooth removal long time ago they had to approve to use anesthesia or whatever they use to knock u out it actually worked

 

[turquoise]

I got an email after I sent them one saying it was going to be very hard for me to get long detailed letters from several doctors describing my complete medical history and current problems that said:
"Our doctors won't examine you!"

I hadn't asked that.

They want like a ten page medical history from more than one doctor that goes into minute details about my medical history for at least the last ten years or more. How can I get that when the only doctors I've seen in ten years A. one never took any notes I found out, and B. Only spend ten minutes with me and go out the door?

It would be a miracle to get one to put two scribbled illegible sentences on a scrap of paper.

Where are these doctors who will sit down and write up and have typed a complete medical history of me in detail?
None that I've ever found.

This is so so true. It's impossible getting doctors to write up such letters. They have no time. It's also very difficult because you can't tell them why you want the letter. When I asked for a letter, I was asked to explain why I needed such a letter, why I couldn't rely on a string of disconnected and cryptic notes from visits, and it was just ridiculously difficult to get them to write up anything. Finally I wrote up a draft and said I need it for medical treatment abroad and that worked - that doctor modified the draft and wrote up the letter. Unfortunately it was only one page and I can't imagine getting minute details from the last ten years. That's basically impossible, unless it's forged.

I'm shocked they need so much. It seems totally unreasonable. Basically it seems it's almost impossible to qualify if you don't have a terminal illness or some other very obvious condition like being in a wheelchair or MS.

 

[Buffy5120]

This is so so true. It's impossible getting doctors to write up such letters. They have no time. It's also very difficult because you can't tell them why you want the letter. When I asked for a letter, I was asked to explain why I needed such a letter, why I couldn't rely on a string of disconnected and cryptic notes from visits, and it was just ridiculously difficult to get them to write up anything. Finally I wrote up a draft and said I need it for medical treatment abroad and that worked - that doctor modified the draft and wrote up the letter. Unfortunately it was only one page and I can't imagine getting minute details from the last ten years. That's basically impossible, unless it's forged.

I'm shocked they need so much. It seems totally unreasonable. Basically it seems it's almost impossible to qualify if you don't have a terminal illness or some other very obvious condition like being in a wheelchair or MS.

Im in a wheelchair but not related to my spine i can walk but they dont need to know that thats why i can just forge? I dont understand whats so hard about forging?

 

[NeverGrowUp]

I decided to try my luck with Pegasos. I'll report on my steps in this thread if you don't mind. Perhaps you could give me some advice along the way. So, here is the beginning of my story. Thanks in advance for reading this.

Recently I decided to catch the bus with the help of N. from A., I've set the date, got my affairs in order, but I've made some stupid mistakes. E.g., I confessed to my family that I'm suicidal, and what was the worst, I quit taking benzos before the scheduled date, which made me incredibly anxious, nervous and unstable, therefore I just didn't manage to do it on a scheduled date.

Now I'm not sure anymore if I can even do this without any powerful trigger. But the decision to leave this world is final, I've done here for sure. I just don't have enough courage to do it on my own. Therefore, the perfect option for me, as for many other members of this board, would be assisted euthanasia.

In one of the 2020 PPeH versions, I found out about Pegasos, who help not only the terminally ill people. I emailed them, asking if I could count on their help, and described my situation. I am a female in my early 30s, I suffer from BPD, OCD, anxiety, depression and a lot of phobias, but this has never been officially diagnosed. Pegasos did not refuse me because of the age, which is already good. As I understand, to be approved by Pegasos I need to have a rather serious diagnosis of mental illness, but at the same time their specialists will evaluate my sanity and ability to make decisions on my own.

They can't guarantee me anything and in order for my candidacy to be considered, I need to send them the most recent medical documents confirming my health condition. In the worst case of being rejected, I will just lose 1500 euros of the deposit. But what is money compared to the chance to leave peacefully and safe?!

I live in Eastern Europe, and as long as there are travel restrictions due to COVID-19, I still can't get to Switzerland at the moment, so I have plenty of time to start gathering medical documents. The problem is that in my country mental health certificates can only be issued by public health facilities, but not by private psychotherapists. Our system of public psychiatric medicine is more like a penitentiary system, in the best traditions of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", so I absolutely do not want to go to the mental hospital, but I started visiting a psychiatrist at a state neuropsychiatric clinic.

At the first appointment, I told the psychiatrist about most of my symptoms, except for my wish to CTB, of course. So far he has prescribed me Paroxetinum, Quetixol and Hydazepam. Of all these drugs, I've been taking only Hydazepam for a long time, this benzo helps me to cope with anxiety. Quetixol can make me a veg and deprive me of the opportunity to do my job properly, so I'm not gonna even try it, and also I see no point in taking the Paroxetinum (antidepressant), because I don't want to treat depression, I just need a diagnosis.

My next visit to the psychiatrist will take place in a month. What do you think I'd better tell him about the effects of the meds I'm supposed to take? I want to emphasize that I only need the evidence of my illness (but not the improvement of its symptoms).

What do you think, do I have a chance that my candidacy will be approved in Pegasos eventually?

I wish you the best of luck, being approved by them sounds like a lovely dream you won't have to go alone! I'm in a very similar boat with BPD, OCPD, and Bipolar II. Ironically it gives me a glimmer of hope that a decade or so from now I would have this option as you do once I'm in my 30s (if I don't exit before then). I will certainly be looking forward to updates from you, and we can only pray that they understand the extent of your suffering enough to have some compassion.

 

[My_name_is_Luka]

I applied to Pegasos after exchanging several emails with them. They said they'd have to see my medical records to be able to make a definitive decision on my condition. I sent them the money about one week ago and now they've gone silent. Before this they were very responsive and didn't demand payment. They only said I'd have to submit a VAD application in order for them to review my records.

I've sent a couple of follow up emails, but have received no response. They haven't even acknowledged the receipt of the money.

I'm wondering what's going on. Surely they can't be. scam because many people have been in touch with them and there are press mentions of them. They were also quite prompt in responding earlier and never once pressured me for payment.
Has anyone else applied? What was your experience?

By the way, I'm unsure how to start a new thread. It seems I only have the ability to respond to existing threads..


Pegasos has similar requirements when it comes to records within six months. Might be a legal requirement imposed by Switzerland. The condescending attitude is very disheartening to her about :-( And demands for money are also not pleasant. Very sad.

My understanding is that being a young person with mental illness makes things quite tricky, if not impossible. They say in their FAQs:

Pegasos does not accept young people with depression or other severe mental illness. Rather, Pegasos will refer such applications to counselling services such as those published on the Pegasos website.

Did they give you any indication of what types of mental illness are considered severe enough for them to accept you?

Hi
Which medical records of the last 6 months do they need? I mean, for which medical conditions?
There are health issues that cannot be healed and there is no need to prove that. If someone has such a health issue, with exams and medical records collected through the years, why would he need to ask again for the same diagnosis? For example someone has an autoimmune disease, which can cause symptoms in several areas of the body. Collecting such medical reports requires many visits to several doctors, blood exams, visual inspections in presence of symptoms. It's crazy that someone has to do all that again.

 

[rvsw]

I got approved but cannot travel as bedriddeb

 

[turquoise]

Hi
Which medical records of the last 6 months do they need? I mean, for which medical conditions?
There are health issues that cannot be healed and there is no need to prove that. If someone has such a health issue, with exams and medical records collected through the years, why would he need to ask again for the same diagnosis? For example someone has an autoimmune disease, which can cause symptoms in several areas of the body. Collecting such medical reports requires many visits to several doctors, blood exams, visual inspections in presence of symptoms. It's crazy that someone has to do all that again.

Sorry for the slow reply. They don't specify which records but it's presumably the necessary records to prove you are suffering from whatever condition you state on the application. They also specifically don't want you to include lab reports, blood exams etc. It is indeed onerous to obtain these records because it's not customary for doctors to write up letters like that.
I think they do all this to ensure the person is not depressed and isn't lying. Mainly for legal protection. I'd imagine if they allowed anyone in, no questions asked, there'd be a lot of mentally ill people who go for it and it could get Pegasos into trouble.

 

[turquoise]

I finally got approved by Pegasos. Took about 2 months in total. They said they were really backed up due to COVID-19 rules.

 

[Pookie]

I finally got approved by Pegasos. Took about 2 months in total. They said they were really backed up due to COVID-19 rules.

Great that you got the green light! Did you find the application process very difficult? To me they seem easier than Dignitas. What condition do you have if I may ask?

I have a chronic pain condition and they said they help people with chronic health/pain conditions.

 

[turquoise]

Great that you got the green light! Did you find the application process very difficult? To me they seem easier than Dignitas. What condition do you have if I may ask?

I have a chronic pain condition and they said they help people with chronic health/pain conditions.

No it wasn't too difficult. Dignitas definitely looks much more so.

I've got systemic dryness in my body (eyes, mouth, nose, lips, etc). Very much like Sjögren's Syndrome.

 

[Buffy5120]

No it wasn't too difficult. Dignitas definitely looks much more so.

I've got systemic dryness in my body (eyes, mouth, nose, lips, etc). Very much like Sjögren's Syndrome.

When are you scheduled to go? Btw i sent u a pm dont know if you got it?

 

[My_name_is_Luka]

No it wasn't too difficult. Dignitas definitely looks much more so.

I've got systemic dryness in my body (eyes, mouth, nose, lips, etc). Very much like Sjögren's Syndrome.

sorry for your health. I'm in a similar health condition; persistent dryness in the eyes that obliges me to use artificial tears every day. Occasional eye ulcers. Daily inflammation on the hands (sometimes with ulcers), inflammation in the nose sinuses, and a few times in the intestine.
If you can tell us more, do they need these chronic issues to pass a certain criteria for severity of the symptoms? How is it defined?
Mostly these things cause a severe impairment of the quality of life and chronic pain; but only the person that is suffering from it can understand how debilitating this is

 

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When are you scheduled to go? Btw i sent u a pm dont know if you got it?

Sorry for the slow reply. I just replied to your PM. I have not chosen a date yet. Trying to figure out who can accompany me. It's a very annoying legal requirement. Most people I know, including my closest friends, are stuck in the their own mindset that suicide is not right. It's very frustrating.

sorry for your health. I'm in a similar health condition; persistent dryness in the eyes that obliges me to use artificial tears every day. Occasional eye ulcers. Daily inflammation on the hands (sometimes with ulcers), inflammation in the nose sinuses, and a few times in the intestine.
If you can tell us more, do they need these chronic issues to pass a certain criteria for severity of the symptoms? How is it defined?
Mostly these things cause a severe impairment of the quality of life and chronic pain; but only the person that is suffering from it can understand how debilitating this is

Sorry to hear of your pain. Sounds like there's some similarity in our conditions.

I think they mainly need documentation from medical records to validate that yes you have this chronic pain. I then described in great detail how it affects my life, how debilitating it is, all the things I could do before that I can't do now.

That was enough to get approved.

It also helps if the condition has a name. Mine doesn't because I tested negative for Sjögren's, so it made everything much more complicated. I had to explain that it's non-Sjögren's Sicca Syndrome.