Discussion The diving reflex

[curiousbeing]

I knew that cold water, hypothermia may trigger diving reflex, which can make body survive 30+ minutes of drowning. This was, for me, main disadvantage of cold weather: it reduces need for oxygen, slows down metabolism so body can survive longer inside sea. But in hot weather, metabolism, oxygen demands are so much - drowning quickly becomes lethal because body can't get huge amount of oxygen in a short time

Well, After sending messages to ChatGpt, I have an idea: I need to consume, say, 2 energy drinks before I enter sea. This will raise my heart rate, increase demand for oxygen and prevent/slow down diving reflex as much as it can. These drinks will kind of replace effects of hot weather for me, by increasing oxygen demand and metabolism
I really liked this idea. Assuming cold weather won't automatically and rapidly decrease effects of energy drinks, applying this idea will increase ctb effectiveness
the more my body demands oxygen and increases metabolism while I am drowning, the more lethal drowning will be

My method: drinking energy drinks firstly, and butane - propane inhalation while being inside sea, losing consciousness due to effects of those gases and drowning. Weather temperature: 8 Celsius

 

[ma0]

Thank you so much for this! I had no idea, so now that's another thing I need to make sure of.

It's in the winter months for me, so thank god I haven't jumped without reading this.

 

[Terramoro]

You're not gonna be able to inhale anything while in the sea. If you slowly swim out to sea, maybe, but you'll cramp up before that.
8C° is insanely low for water. It's thermal conductivity is really high.
Also, don't ask chat gpt for stuff like this. It's gonna proudly present you false information and you're gonna have a bad time.

 

[curiousbeing]

Thank you so much for this! I had no idea, so now that's another thing I need to make sure of.

It's in the winter months for me, so thank god I haven't jumped without reading this.

You're not gonna be able to inhale anything while in the sea. If you slowly swim out to sea, maybe, but you'll cramp up before that.
8C° is insanely low for water. It's thermal conductivity is way better.
Also, don't ask chat gpt for stuff like this. It's gonna proudly present you false information and you're gonna have a bad time.

Before actually drinking energy drinks, firstly, I will activate diving reflex by splashing cold water to my face. It seems face is main area of body whose contact with water activates diving reflex.

After diving reflex is activated and I feel my heart rate going down slower, I will drink energy drinks to maximize their effects


I got this idea just now. This day my brain works lol.


I use chat gpt, Google search and my own reasoning. I may be wrong, but these are only things I have access to plan my method. I assume that probably there is some mistake I may make, but my method is too lethal, hopefully i will successfully ctb. I did my best to reduce my mistakes, errors as much as I can
why drink energy drinks and enter sea, wait diving reflex get triggered and reduce effects of energy drinks? I may enter a bit into sea to introduce my body to coldness of it, splash my face and head with cold water. Only after doing this, I will drink energy drinks


I dont need to inhale propane & butane so much anymore, because drowning itself is lethal; backpack I may tie to my chest or my neck (if I can't tie it to my chest, I will tie it to my neck) will ensure i face downwards inside sea; and drinking energy drinks will make sure I won't survive after 30 minutes of cold water drowning. I read that some people even survived 6 hours of hypothermia in land or at sea due to diving reflex and heart rate slowing effects of hypothermia. Energy drinks will prevent this as much as they can.

But, I should add, Hypothermia is double edged sword-it can also increase fatality rates thanks to cold shock response - some people experience instant cardiac arrest due to hypothermia.

All This in itself is more than enough, assuming everything is correctly thought and I am not found on time. Inhaling propane / butane mixture will help me lose consciousness faster, and kinda act like sedatives

Butane gas don't work in freezing temperatures (its boiling point is just -0.5C, at this temperature it will stay as liquid and not get converted into gas), but propane can work even in freezing temperatures. I wrote about this in my older posts. So I will use car tire inflator butane - propane gas can product. It has a hose attached to it. These gases are heavier than oxygen, and not soluble in water, so they will quickly remove oxygen and cause hypoxia asphyxiation. Seawater inside lungs won't be able to do anything to reduce their effectiveness, since they aren't soluble in water

CO2 is soluble in water though, I hope that seawater will reduce suffocating effects of CO2 accumulated inside lungs so even if I stay conscious, I won't gasp for air - CO2 inside my lungs will disappear thanks to solubility of it in water

I hope my reasoning, my thinking is correct. I tried to do my best to be as accurate as possible, because I don't want a failed ctb. Thanks for reading my long reply.