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The Inevitability of Suffering and Pain

Suffering is an inescapable part of life, beginning from the moment of birth. The very act of being born is a traumatic experience, where a baby, previously sheltered in the womb, is thrust into a world filled with discomfort. Hunger and thirst, basic biological needs, are immediate sources of suffering. A newborn's first cries are often cries of hunger, a primal need that will continue to dictate much of life. Throughout life, the struggle to satisfy hunger and thirst remains a constant challenge, especially in areas where food and clean water are scarce. Even in more privileged circumstances, the human body is never free from the demands of these basic needs, which must be continually met to stave off discomfort and death.

Beyond the pain of hunger and thirst, the human experience is marked by the relentless battle against the elements. Heat and cold, two extremes that nature imposes, are constant sources of suffering. From the freezing chill of winter to the scorching heat of summer, the human body is vulnerable to the whims of the environment. For much of human history, securing adequate shelter to protect against these extremes has been a primary concern. The search for a stable, safe place to live—whether a cave, a hut, or a modern home—reflects the ongoing struggle to find refuge from the harshness of the natural world. Even in modern times, millions of people face inadequate shelter, leading to exposure, illness, and further suffering. The need for warmth in winter and coolness in summer can dominate one's existence, especially in areas where resources are limited and climate extremes are severe.

Compounding these challenges is the necessity of work, a relentless obligation that dominates much of human life. The need to work to pay for food, water, shelter, and other basic necessities is a significant source of suffering. For many, work is not a pursuit of passion but a means of survival, often fraught with stress, long hours, and physical or mental exhaustion. The pressure to earn enough to meet these basic needs can lead to a life of perpetual toil, with little respite. Even those in more comfortable circumstances are not free from the anxieties and pressures of work, which can erode personal well-being and lead to burnout. The burden of work, therefore, adds another layer to the human experience of suffering, as individuals are forced to trade their time and energy for the necessities of life.

Moreover, societal expectations and pressures can exacerbate feelings of inadequacy and anxiety. The relentless pursuit of success, appearance, and conformity to societal norms often leads individuals to experience a sense of failure when they do not meet these expectations. This pressure can overshadow personal desires and achievements, resulting in significant emotional turmoil.

Isolation and loneliness further compound the suffering experienced by many. In a world that is increasingly connected through technology, many people still find themselves feeling profoundly alone. The lack of meaningful connections can lead to despair, highlighting the human need for companionship and understanding. Social isolation can perpetuate feelings of sadness and helplessness, creating a cycle that is difficult to escape.

The complexities of sex and reproduction add yet another dimension to human suffering. While sex can be a source of pleasure, it is also a source of pain and turmoil. The drive for sexual fulfillment can lead to emotional suffering, unrequited desires, and unhealthy relationships. For many, sex is not just about pleasure but is also tied to the responsibilities and challenges of reproduction. Pregnancy, childbirth, and parenting are often fraught with physical pain, emotional strain, and psychological stress. The process of bringing new life into the world is itself a reminder of the inescapable cycle of suffering, as each new generation is born into a world where pain and struggle are inevitable.

Additionally, the experience of chronic illness and disability can lead to ongoing physical pain and emotional strain. Living with a chronic condition often entails navigating a world that is not accommodating, leading to feelings of frustration and helplessness. The daily struggle to manage health issues adds another layer of suffering, as individuals grapple with limitations that affect their quality of life.

Addiction and substance abuse introduce yet another layer of suffering. The struggle with addiction often creates a cycle of temporary relief followed by profound pain, both physically and emotionally. Many individuals turn to substances in an attempt to escape their suffering, but this often leads to a deeper entrenchment in pain, damaging relationships, and a loss of control over one's life. The journey to overcome addiction can be fraught with challenges, compounding feelings of shame and despair.

As individuals age, they encounter the physical pain associated with illness, injury, and the natural deterioration of the body. Emotional suffering, too, is a constant companion, stemming from broken relationships, unfulfilled desires, and the loss of loved ones. Psychological pain, such as anxiety, depression, and existential angst, can make even the most mundane aspects of life seem unbearable. Despite efforts to avoid or minimize pain, it remains an intrinsic part of the human condition. The struggle to find and maintain shelter, protect oneself from the extremes of heat and cold, work to pay for basic necessities, and cope with the inevitable decline of the body all contribute to the overarching narrative that life is more about enduring suffering than experiencing happiness.

Many people struggle with the constraints placed on their lives by external forces—family expectations, societal standards, financial limitations, or other uncontrollable factors. This lack of autonomy and agency can lead to frustration, feelings of helplessness, and a sense of being trapped.

Everyone carries regrets or feels guilt over past actions, decisions, or missed opportunities. This emotional weight can be paralyzing, creating self-doubt, shame, and a constant re-evaluation of choices. The inability to change the past often leads to a recurring sense of failure and longing.

The inherent unpredictability of life can create anxiety and fear. Events such as accidents, natural disasters, or sudden illness can disrupt any sense of stability. The constant threat of the unknown and the uncertainty of tomorrow contribute to ongoing stress and emotional strain

The loss of loved ones, friends, or even pets, and the inevitable approach of one's own death, creates profound emotional pain. Grief, both for others and for oneself, is a significant source of suffering. The knowledge that life is finite and that every relationship will eventually be affected by death can be a constant source of anxiety and sadness.

The gap between what we expect from life—whether in terms of relationships, career, personal achievements, or happiness—and what life delivers can lead to a sense of disappointment and dissatisfaction. Unrealistic or culturally influenced expectations can cause an individual to feel like a failure, even when they've done their best.

he search for meaning in life can be both a source of fulfillment and a source of pain. For many, the lack of a clear, inherent purpose or understanding of why we are here creates existential angst. The difficulty in finding meaning in the face of suffering can lead to a sense of purposelessness, depression, or despair.
 
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I agree with this assessment. Why do you suppose the majority of people don't though? Enough for a large proportion of them to consider life a good enough proposition to have children.

Maybe some of them are 'sheeple' and content to suffer but, surely not all. Much smarter people than me seem fairly content in life. Not always because they've had great fortune either. Although, the happier ones I know all have pretty stable families/ friend groups. I think that's a common theme lacking here although again, not for everyone.

Maybe you could argue that life has so many objectively bad or at least, highly problematic elements to it. So, why are so many people's subjective experience of it so reasonable? Clearly, the majority are subjectively getting enough contentment to linger and procreate. Otherwise, we'd see suicides everywhere and, the species on verge of extinction.

It's actually something I can't get my head around. Like- I can just about in a privileged country where the parents are comfortable. They likely assume their child will be also. But- there are certain areas of the world where life truly can't be enjoyed by people. How do you enjoy starvation? Yet, they still procreate. My Dad used to tell me it was down to cultural and religious expectations. I just find it bizarre though. These are thinking humans just the same. Why aren't they troubled that their child will very likely starve?
 
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