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it was very interesting to read this, honestly I enjoy a lot finding this kind of posts
I thought the most interesting part was the autopsy and report validated a lot of the claims about SN here. Although they couldn't go into how much pain the process produced of course.
That's exactly what I was thinking. This lines up with everything else I've read on SN and other medical case studies.
THIS. They always play that particular card with this website. They are right that detailed info is found here, but I've seen absolutely zero encouragement to CTB over the 2 years I've been on the site. Pro-lifers always play the "oh the vulnerable person was manipulated and coerced to commit suicide" card, and if it isn't that, it's "they were unsound of mind." Disgusting. They can't comprehend that people who kill themselves do so freely and rationally, and not all are impulsive or pushed to do so.
In the lungs and trachea would imply either excessive respiratory mucus production or aspiration most likely. My assumption would be she vomited and aspirated during the dying process. A green-brownish foamy liquid in the trachea wouldn't really have anything to do with the throat and swallowing, again that would be more like aspiration. If it was something to do with a caustic or burning effect from the SN it would be in the esophagus or stomach.
Ah, good to know. Yeah I have next to no medical information parsing ability, so I was sort of half-spitballing there.
In their defence, the name of the thread quite explicitly states that there are graphic photos and places a TW.
I haven't actually opened the link to read as I don't really want to see that right now, but based on what you quoted alone I'm heavily suspecting she aspirated vomit. "green-brownish" could very well be stomach bile if she was fasting for a decent period prior to drinking it.
Yeah I noticed that as well to be fair most people with the 'keep them alive at any cost' mentality would see information as encouragement. As far as they're concerned no one should ever tell anyone anything. Lol
Good grief, WHAT is your problem?? They told you (and everyone else) the report has graphic photos ...
Some of you people are just a bit "too" ...
Ummm... there is literally a warning in both the title and the opening comment. In BIG F'ING letters. Learn to read. The title also clearly states exactly what the link is. I have to wonder what is your issue??? Serious question are you just looking for attention bad or good or are do you really just not know how to interact with people?
Why be on this forum if all you do is pick fights and put people down?
You can see pictures of people's dead bodies, but others (may be shocked, and that's me, by the way, thanks)
I don't want to see a dead body either. So when I read the title of the thread I thought "oh I don't want to see that today, and they warned me, so I won't open the link". That's typically how people handle that situation.
You literally read the title, clicked the link, and then scrolled down. If you don't want to see that type of stuff then why take so many steps to look at it?
The OP wrote a trigger warning in caps before the link.
Once again two separate warnings in really big letters. As others have pointed out you had to read title read opening comment click link scroll to pics that's 4 steps to see something you're now bitching about seeing.
You're very welcome. I just thought it might help some people here who were having questions about it SN being a viable method.
It's a medical report to increase knowledge in the scientific/medical community (we are not the intended audience but there's obviously nothing wrong with us reading) and putting pictures of her body could help other doctors/healthcare workers ID what is going on because SN isn't particularly popular.
I fail to see how that photo provides anything of use. The other ones, fair enough.
I would have to go back and read again, but I think it had something to do with the color/condition of the person's skin.
Photos are often placed in medical literature for education purposes. And they cannot just post pictures anywhere. There are approvals and procedures and consents that have to be followed for it to be okayed. If they did not get proper consent and such they would not have been able to put photos in there.
, oh… it wasn't actually that bad. i'm gonna read this. thanks for sharing
