UK Assisted Dying Bill - Dozens of Labour Mp's pushing for " incurabley suffering " to be included.

[Rational man]

UK Assisted Dying Bill - Dozens of Labour Mp's pushing for " incurabley suffering " to be included. A free vote could be held in parliament before christmas, following the selection of the private members bill that could lead to the change in law, making assistance in dying legal in the United Kindom. If passed, terminally ill people may have the right to choose to shorten their lives. It is now emerging that many Labour Mps are pushing to extend the eligibility beyond " terminal illness". In my oppinion, " incurably suffering " is subjective and could include people like me who following the c19 vax, I believe I was injured and my quality of life is often intolerable.

 

[SVEN]

Being in the UK myself, we can only hope.

 

[Rational man]

Agreed

Being in the UK myself, we can only hope.

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[LunarLight]

I don't think it will include suicidal people.

 

[Darkover]

The current system is failing people who need the right to choose a dignified end now. Many are enduring intolerable suffering, yet they're denied the autonomy to make this decision because of outdated laws. Expanding the bill to include "incurable suffering" would finally give people the compassion and respect they deserve. It's time for Parliament to act—no one should be forced to live in pain without hope.

 

[FuneralCry]

To me personally the absence of the option of euthanasia to prevent all future suffering is horrific especially as there is no limit as to how much one can suffer as long as they exist, I wish painless death is legalised, it'd bring me so much peace and relief.

 

[LunarLight]

A similar law is probably going to be discussed in France as well.

 

[Chronicallyunwell]

I hope it happens!!!! Even if it will only be for people with terminal conditions and six months to live, at least its a step in the right direction...

 

[probablysoon]

We need this to happen

 

[opheliaoveragain]

following. please update us!

 

[ThisIsMe1357]

This is very good news. One major point is that the Labour Party has around 400 members in the House of Commons, doesn't it? So even if 50 of them together with everybody else oppose the bill, which I find improbable, it will still pass. That makes it highly likely to be successful.

But another good thing about this is that these things are hardly ever reversed by future governments once they pass and once society gets used to the changes. By the way, I once read that an overwhelming majority of British society agreed with the proposal, and that means that what will likely happen in the next decade will be even more and more additions of other groups of people to be allowed to undergo the process and for the assisted dying to include less and less restrictions as time goes on.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Fingers crossed it will happen. It still won't 'benefit' a huge amount of people I suspect but, at least it would be a start. Plus, we'd all likely feel more rest assured that- if we were unfortunate enough to make it to old age and debilitating illness set in, at least we wouldn't still be trapped here.

I suspect I'll still have to go the DIY route. I don't think I'm willing to wait that long- even if it comes in. Besides, I'm damned if a bunch of doctors will get to decide my fate. That's for me to decide. Just unfortunate that that will mean winging it when it comes to actually doing it.

I wonder if they'll charge for it and, how much. Whether it will be under the NHS or, private companies. I wonder how that works in other countries. Whether they all have to comply to a pricing structure. Imagine if they ran sales! Sorry- my gallows humour.

 

[thenorthern]

Important.

 

[lament.]

Thankyou very much for sharing this on here, would have probably never found out about this possibility otherwise. As someone with an incurable disorder that causes me alot of pain I hope the bill is pushed and I meet the criteria. That's a very ambigous way they are wording it though, so I am very curious to see how this criteria would actually be decided if it's pushed.

 

[TAW122]

This is indeed good progress and I have no objections if I was "peacefully" allowed to die and without interference from pesky pro-lifers or similar people and such. Unfortunately, living in the US that is unlikely to happen for most of the USA (barring a few states) and I would sooner end up CTB'ing in a brutal way (firearms or something).

 

[Praying 4 a Miracle]

This is definitely progress. I'm in Canada, and we have a very similar situation here. I really do believe that if people are brave enough to speak up about wanting to expand MAID, things will progress and expand much, much quicker. There is no danger in speaking up about MAID, as it is completely legal, and therefore safe to talk about!

There is everything to gain, and nothing to lose by doing this! Especially since this is obviously the way the world's headed, and it just needs to happen much, much faster. If the world drags it's heals on this, it'll just cause millions more to suffer needlessly. ALL adults should have the legal right to make this very important decision for themselves.

 

[MyTimeIsUp]

Yeah, bollocks. If they were going to do it, they wouldn't section people and forcibly medicate them etc for wanting to end their suffering when a magic pill won't take all the trauma out the brain, and they don't help. They just watch you. No treatment lmfao. Being spoken to like a 5 year old and humiliated and shouted at in front of all the other patients too. For being a person lmfao. My physical health has majorly declined since being in this prison. No one cares though

 

[Rational man]

Outstanding reply. . I sense a legal change in the air, that could be the catalyst for expansion of criteria.

The current system is failing people who need the right to choose a dignified end now. Many are enduring intolerable suffering, yet they're denied the autonomy to make this decision because of outdated laws. Expanding the bill to include "incurable suffering" would finally give people the compassion and respect they deserve. It's time for Parliament to act—no one should be forced to live in pain without hope.

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Thankyou very much for sharing this on here, would have probably never found out about this possibility otherwise. As someone with an incurable disorder that causes me alot of pain I hope the bill is pushed and I meet the criteria. That's a very ambigous way they are wording it though, so I am very curious to see how this criteria would actually be decided if it's pushed.

The bill is being talked about alot on national media now. and of course the vote will gain big headlines, whatever the outcome. I read about it on the national news and PM Starmer has been talking about it.

This is very good news. One major point is that the Labour Party has around 400 members in the House of Commons, doesn't it? So even if 50 of them together with everybody else oppose the bill, which I find improbable, it will still pass. That makes it highly likely to be successful.

But another good thing about this is that these things are hardly ever reversed by future governments once they pass and once society gets used to the changes. By the way, I once read that an overwhelming majority of British society agreed with the proposal, and that means that what will likely happen in the next decade will be even more and more additions of other groups of people to be allowed to undergo the process and for the assisted dying to include less and less restrictions as time goes on.

Im hearing of one MP who will vote according to his constitutions preferences. If this is replicated, it will pass. A recent poll indicated that a large % of British support that change in law.

This is very good news. One major point is that the Labour Party has around 400 members in the House of Commons, doesn't it? So even if 50 of them together with everybody else oppose the bill, which I find improbable, it will still pass. That makes it highly likely to be successful.

But another good thing about this is that these things are hardly ever reversed by future governments once they pass and once society gets used to the changes. By the way, I once read that an overwhelming majority of British society agreed with the proposal, and that means that what will likely happen in the next decade will be even more and more additions of other groups of people to be allowed to undergo the process and for the assisted dying to include less and less restrictions as time goes on.

Im hearing of one MP who will vote according to his constitutions preferences. If this is replicated, it will pass. A recent poll indicated that a large % of British support that change in law.

 

[Rational man]

Fingers crossed it will happen. It still won't 'benefit' a huge amount of people I suspect but, at least it would be a start. Plus, we'd all likely feel more rest assured that- if we were unfortunate enough to make it to old age and debilitating illness set in, at least we wouldn't still be trapped here.

I suspect I'll still have to go the DIY route. I don't think I'm willing to wait that long- even if it comes in. Besides, I'm damned if a bunch of doctors will get to decide my fate. That's for me to decide. Just unfortunate that that will mean winging it when it comes to actually doing it.

I wonder if they'll charge for it and, how much. Whether it will be under the NHS or, private companies. I wonder how that works in other countries. Whether they all have to comply to a pricing structure. Imagine if they ran sales! Sorry- my gallows humour.

I suspect I will have to take the plan B route. Im hopeful that the UK legal route may become lawful but of course, there will be challenges to the Bill by certain groups and even if the Bill passes, it may take time to ratify the finer details. Unfortunately, diseases dont take pauses or holidays and my situation progresses every day that passes.

 

[Rational man]

UK Assisted Dying Bill has entered parliament. There will be many stages and no doubt, obstacles along the path..I will keep you updated of progress.

 

[alltoomuch2]

Too many handwriting bedwetters opposing it.

 

[Rational man]

Too many handwriting bedwetters opposing it.

I suspect this too. Too many interfering officials and many MPs may back down. Ive discovered that in that order of up to 30 bishops serve in parliament!!!!. Well, I guess we know how they feel about assisted dying and sanctity of life.

 

[alltoomuch2]

I'm becoming pessimistic that even the original bill won't get through. So many hysterical idiots oblivious to the fact that suicide is happening now anyway, and this bill would just allow a painless end with loved ones around them instead of in a lonely hotel room or on a railway track looking at a train approaching. Naive sentimental deniers condemning people to having to continue to suffer.
I'm becoming pessimistic that even the original bill won't get through. So many hysterical idiots oblivious to the fact that suicide is happening now anyway, and this bill would just allow a painless end with loved ones around them instead of in a lonely hotel room or on a railway track looking at a train approaching. Naive sentimental deniers condemning people to having to continue to suffer.

 

[Rational man]

Yes, the soundings are less optimistic. Even if it did become lawful, the pathway to legislature maybe too long for me. Unfortunately, diseases dont get put on hold whilsts autocrats decide. I always thought plan B is the fallback for me.

I'm becoming pessimistic that even the original bill won't get through. So many hysterical idiots oblivious to the fact that suicide is happening now anyway, and this bill would just allow a painless end with loved ones around them instead of in a lonely hotel room or on a railway track looking at a train approaching. Naive sentimental deniers condemning people to having to continue to suffer.
I'm becoming pessimistic that even the original bill won't get through. So many hysterical idiots oblivious to the fact that suicide is happening now anyway, and this bill would just allow a painless end with loved ones around them instead of in a lonely hotel room or on a railway track looking at a train approaching. Naive sentimental deniers condemning people to having to continue to suffer.

 

[Rational man]

So the UK Parliament has the Assisted Dying Bill discussion this Friday. Im uncertain about the vote outcome. Some MPs have gone public, indicating they will vote against. However, Im hoping the silent majority will vote in favour. Even if it passes into law, I think its a long road ahead, certainly, I wont benefit. But then, its not just about me. There's many people suffering right now. I will update you on Friday.

 

[J&L383]

Being in the UK myself, we can only hope.

If the "intolerable suffering" gets included (and assuming the bill passes) that would be beyond what the US states allow. But more in line with Canada. I think it's time for the US to catch up but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

 

[Rational man]

If the "intolerable suffering" gets included (and assuming the bill passes) that would be beyond what the US states allow. But more in line with Canada. I think it's time for the US to catch up but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Yes.Firstly it must pass and then the discussion about criteria, etc.

 

[Kali_Yuga13]

In my oppinion, " incurably suffering " is subjective and could include people like me who following the c19 vax, I believe I was injured and my quality of life is often intolerable.

Sorry to hear about that. I have a family member that was absolutely maimed by that thing. It's been a horrific to even witness the level of suffering not to mention the gaslighting, denial and eye rolling of medical professionals. For that reason I would not outsource my death to the medical establishment. Legislation and medical approval from the problem creators mean little to me. I do realize for many people without ways and means it's the best option.

 

[Rational man]

Thanks for

Sorry to hear about that. I have a family member that was absolutely maimed by that thing. It's been a horrific to even witness the level of suffering not to mention the gaslighting, denial and eye rolling of medical professionals. For that reason I would not outsource my death to the medical establishment. Legislation and medical approval from the problem creators mean little to me. I do realize for many people without ways and means it's the best option.

Thanks for your understanding. I too have lttle faith in the medical establishment. I too have been gaslit by many medical institutions.