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wildflowercloud

wildflowercloud

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Jun 6, 2023
70
Hey guys 🌸

We are currently in the psych ward, we've been here for over 2 months, and it is rough going.

The hospital itself is actually good, like most of the staff are really professional and really approachable and open-minded and non-judgmental and friendly and funny and genuinely caring and supportive, and we know we are so incredibly lucky to have the support we have as we know so many people around the world have the complete opposite experience, so we definitely are very lucky, including with the support from our community mental health team, they're absolutely amazing too.

With all that said, we are in the darkest most hopeless space that we have ever been in and that's really saying something. We have said that line multiple times throughout our life of trauma and mental illness as it has worsened over the years, but we can honestly say this is different. This feels final. It is final. As a system we have all 100% promised each other that we will die by suicide, and that is pledged, and it is irrevocable.

We had a very close call suicide attempt in early February. We ended up in the bathroom with a blade we found and cut into an artery, it went exactly as we imagined it would in our head, but still the initial reaction was panic so we reached for the call bell but it didn't work, and at that point we just accepted that it was a possibility / probability that we were going to die because the blood loss was so severe, it was a very bloody scene and it just kept pouring out and we didn't even try to stop the bleeding, just sat there, eventually lay down and shut our eyes, it felt like a while until we were found but we don't actually know how long it was. But the alarms pulled, staff come rushing they try to sit us up and then we must've blacked out from the blood loss because next thing we know everything went dark and then we woke up on our back with our legs being held in the air to help with blood pressure we think, and fuck the whole thing was chaos. They called the ambulance and an ICU nurse came up too, they were trying to stop the bleeding and it was so painful but we kept going in and out of awareness. Got moved onto some blow up mat to then get onto the stretcher, taken to the Emergency Department where we saw the orthopedic surgeon because of a damaged tendon and saw the vascular surgeon because of the cut artery, thankfully didn't have to go to theatre and they treated it with a pressure bandage and then stitches. The issue that stuck around for longer was that our blood pressure was very low, so we had to stay in the observation unit for the night and following day getting fluids and blood transfusions. Our blood pressure got down into the 70's/something we can't quite remember but it was very dangerous waters. The weird thing, is that once we made the decision to make the attempt, it was so fucking easy to just let go.

Since then we developed pulmonary embolisms and had to be put on blood thinners, and we came up with a plan that our psychiatrist here thinks is very likely to result in being a completed suicide, which is waiting for a bit for the blood thinners to work and then jump the fence on the ward, go to the location we've chosen, and cut into our artery again and now that we know what to expect we can make it worse and possibly cut the artery on the other side too, and with the blood thinners it'll make it much harder for our body to stop the bleeding, and then yeah. Hopefully peace, freedom, safety, and rest.

Unfortunately though because we were honest that we had this plan and if triggered enough would likely do it, we got moved to the more secure psych ward where there's no way out. But we're holding that plan so close to our heart and soul and have every intention of carrying it out when we get a chance too.

Aside from suicide stuff, we've been getting various treatments here from medication, ECT (Electroconvulsive Therapy), therapy with a clinical psychologist (who is brilliant), regular catch ups with our psychiatrist, and ketamine injections.

We had 12 rounds of ECT and it did next to nothing for us, so our psychiatrist decided that ketamine is the best thing to try because it treats PTSD / Complex PTSD, depression, and suicidality, and he said it has a 60%-70% chance of being effective. The only issue which we've discussed with a friend who also has DID and went through ketamine treatments, is that the doctors tell us that the dissociative effects of the ketamine only have residual effects for about 2ish hours after the treatment, but for us with DID the dissociative effects have persisted and made our DID even more intense and having more vivid switches between alters and just generally higher levels of dissociation, but there doesn't seem to be any research done on ketamine with DID. We know our psychiatrist is absolutely incredible, like world renowned for his work with trauma and has done so much to help the PTSD / Complex PTSD population, and we trust him immensely. The only issue is that he doesn't seem too familiar of the DID experience, but he is very open minded and he absolutely believes us, I think it's just more in a general sense there's not a great level of awareness. But we're going to talk to him about what we discussed with our friend and see his views on it. We personally think the ketamine isn't going to be as effective because of our DID, like our brain is wired differently from the trauma and is different to the pure PTSD / Complex PTSD experience, and we think it would take a lot more treatment for things to be overtly effective, but we're just guessing here.

Honestly, as screwed up as this is, we don't want it to work. We want suicide. We need suicide. Treatment can only do so much, the trauma is never going to go away, that's impossible, and we can't live with the knowledge of our trauma and what's been done to us and knowing the level of human depravity that exists in the world, it's too fucking painful.

Our existence is agony and honestly that doesn't even feel like it gives it justice.

We admit defeat.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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It's so cruel and horrible to me how there's all this pain in existing, I hope you find peace from the suffering that you wish for.
 
Eedrah

Eedrah

Member
Oct 23, 2020
20
this is all so interesting, thank you for sharing, and the level of human depravity, yeah, its awful. may i ask what the ECT was like?
 
pastmyexpiration

pastmyexpiration

Member
Mar 10, 2025
9
Hey guys 🌸

We are currently in the psych ward, we've been here for over 2 months, and it is rough going.

The hospital itself is actually good, like most of the staff are really professional and really approachable and open-minded and non-judgmental and friendly and funny and genuinely caring and supportive, and we know we are so incredibly lucky to have the support we have as we know so many people around the world have the complete opposite experience, so we definitely are very lucky, including with the support from our community mental health team, they're absolutely amazing too.

With all that said, we are in the darkest most hopeless space that we have ever been in and that's really saying something. We have said that line multiple times throughout our life of trauma and mental illness as it has worsened over the years, but we can honestly say this is different. This feels final. It is final. As a system we have all 100% promised each other that we will die by suicide, and that is pledged, and it is irrevocable.

We had a very close call suicide attempt in early February. We ended up in the bathroom with a blade we found and cut into an artery, it went exactly as we imagined it would in our head, but still the initial reaction was panic so we reached for the call bell but it didn't work, and at that point we just accepted that it was a possibility / probability that we were going to die because the blood loss was so severe, it was a very bloody scene and it just kept pouring out and we didn't even try to stop the bleeding, just sat there, eventually lay down and shut our eyes, it felt like a while until we were found but we don't actually know how long it was. But the alarms pulled, staff come rushing they try to sit us up and then we must've blacked out from the blood loss because next thing we know everything went dark and then we woke up on our back with our legs being held in the air to help with blood pressure we think, and fuck the whole thing was chaos. They called the ambulance and an ICU nurse came up too, they were trying to stop the bleeding and it was so painful but we kept going in and out of awareness. Got moved onto some blow up mat to then get onto the stretcher, taken to the Emergency Department where we saw the orthopedic surgeon because of a damaged tendon and saw the vascular surgeon because of the cut artery, thankfully didn't have to go to theatre and they treated it with a pressure bandage and then stitches. The issue that stuck around for longer was that our blood pressure was very low, so we had to stay in the observation unit for the night and following day getting fluids and blood transfusions. Our blood pressure got down into the 70's/something we can't quite remember but it was very dangerous waters. The weird thing, is that once we made the decision to make the attempt, it was so fucking easy to just let go.

Since then we developed pulmonary embolisms and had to be put on blood thinners, and we came up with a plan that our psychiatrist here thinks is very likely to result in being a completed suicide, which is waiting for a bit for the blood thinners to work and then jump the fence on the ward, go to the location we've chosen, and cut into our artery again and now that we know what to expect we can make it worse and possibly cut the artery on the other side too, and with the blood thinners it'll make it much harder for our body to stop the bleeding, and then yeah. Hopefully peace, freedom, safety, and rest.

Unfortunately though because we were honest that we had this plan and if triggered enough would likely do it, we got moved to the more secure psych ward where there's no way out. But we're holding that plan so close to our heart and soul and have every intention of carrying it out when we get a chance too.

Aside from suicide stuff, we've been getting various treatments here from medication, ECT (Electroconvulsive Therapy), therapy with a clinical psychologist (who is brilliant), regular catch ups with our psychiatrist, and ketamine injections.

We had 12 rounds of ECT and it did next to nothing for us, so our psychiatrist decided that ketamine is the best thing to try because it treats PTSD / Complex PTSD, depression, and suicidality, and he said it has a 60%-70% chance of being effective. The only issue which we've discussed with a friend who also has DID and went through ketamine treatments, is that the doctors tell us that the dissociative effects of the ketamine only have residual effects for about 2ish hours after the treatment, but for us with DID the dissociative effects have persisted and made our DID even more intense and having more vivid switches between alters and just generally higher levels of dissociation, but there doesn't seem to be any research done on ketamine with DID. We know our psychiatrist is absolutely incredible, like world renowned for his work with trauma and has done so much to help the PTSD / Complex PTSD population, and we trust him immensely. The only issue is that he doesn't seem too familiar of the DID experience, but he is very open minded and he absolutely believes us, I think it's just more in a general sense there's not a great level of awareness. But we're going to talk to him about what we discussed with our friend and see his views on it. We personally think the ketamine isn't going to be as effective because of our DID, like our brain is wired differently from the trauma and is different to the pure PTSD / Complex PTSD experience, and we think it would take a lot more treatment for things to be overtly effective, but we're just guessing here.

Honestly, as screwed up as this is, we don't want it to work. We want suicide. We need suicide. Treatment can only do so much, the trauma is never going to go away, that's impossible, and we can't live with the knowledge of our trauma and what's been done to us and knowing the level of human depravity that exists in the world, it's too fucking painful.

Our existence is agony and honestly that doesn't even feel like it gives it justice.

We admit defeat.
Are you there with someone else? Who is WE?
 
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Forveleth

I knew I forgot to do something when I was 15...
Mar 26, 2024
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Are you there with someone else? Who is WE?
They have DID, dissociative identity disorder (formerly known as multiple personality disorder). Many DID systems use "we" as their pronoun because they are, essentially, multiple people in one body.

Wildflowercloud I'm sorry you are going through such a rough time. I am at least very happy you are in a good facility where people are genuinely trying to help you. Sometimes, therapy and medication are just not enough and you have to weigh quality of life over what it takes to get there, if you even can.
I find it interesting they are suggesting a dissociative treatment to someone with DID. Perhaps because they are inexperienced with the condition? DID is so understudied in the population. True experts are few and far between, unfortunately.
That peacefulness that comes with accepting death is an interesting feeling and, personally, once I found it, it has never gone away in successive attempts. It is very comforting to know it will be there when I am ready.

I hope your remaining inpatient experience continues to center around a healing atmosphere and hopefully you all can find peace in whatever way you need. 🫂
 
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Dec 25, 2024
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Hey guys 🌸

We are currently in the psych ward, we've been here for over 2 months, and it is rough going.

The hospital itself is actually good, like most of the staff are really professional and really approachable and open-minded and non-judgmental and friendly and funny and genuinely caring and supportive, and we know we are so incredibly lucky to have the support we have as we know so many people around the world have the complete opposite experience, so we definitely are very lucky, including with the support from our community mental health team, they're absolutely amazing too.

With all that said, we are in the darkest most hopeless space that we have ever been in and that's really saying something. We have said that line multiple times throughout our life of trauma and mental illness as it has worsened over the years, but we can honestly say this is different. This feels final. It is final. As a system we have all 100% promised each other that we will die by suicide, and that is pledged, and it is irrevocable.

We had a very close call suicide attempt in early February. We ended up in the bathroom with a blade we found and cut into an artery, it went exactly as we imagined it would in our head, but still the initial reaction was panic so we reached for the call bell but it didn't work, and at that point we just accepted that it was a possibility / probability that we were going to die because the blood loss was so severe, it was a very bloody scene and it just kept pouring out and we didn't even try to stop the bleeding, just sat there, eventually lay down and shut our eyes, it felt like a while until we were found but we don't actually know how long it was. But the alarms pulled, staff come rushing they try to sit us up and then we must've blacked out from the blood loss because next thing we know everything went dark and then we woke up on our back with our legs being held in the air to help with blood pressure we think, and fuck the whole thing was chaos. They called the ambulance and an ICU nurse came up too, they were trying to stop the bleeding and it was so painful but we kept going in and out of awareness. Got moved onto some blow up mat to then get onto the stretcher, taken to the Emergency Department where we saw the orthopedic surgeon because of a damaged tendon and saw the vascular surgeon because of the cut artery, thankfully didn't have to go to theatre and they treated it with a pressure bandage and then stitches. The issue that stuck around for longer was that our blood pressure was very low, so we had to stay in the observation unit for the night and following day getting fluids and blood transfusions. Our blood pressure got down into the 70's/something we can't quite remember but it was very dangerous waters. The weird thing, is that once we made the decision to make the attempt, it was so fucking easy to just let go.

Since then we developed pulmonary embolisms and had to be put on blood thinners, and we came up with a plan that our psychiatrist here thinks is very likely to result in being a completed suicide, which is waiting for a bit for the blood thinners to work and then jump the fence on the ward, go to the location we've chosen, and cut into our artery again and now that we know what to expect we can make it worse and possibly cut the artery on the other side too, and with the blood thinners it'll make it much harder for our body to stop the bleeding, and then yeah. Hopefully peace, freedom, safety, and rest.

Unfortunately though because we were honest that we had this plan and if triggered enough would likely do it, we got moved to the more secure psych ward where there's no way out. But we're holding that plan so close to our heart and soul and have every intention of carrying it out when we get a chance too.

Aside from suicide stuff, we've been getting various treatments here from medication, ECT (Electroconvulsive Therapy), therapy with a clinical psychologist (who is brilliant), regular catch ups with our psychiatrist, and ketamine injections.

We had 12 rounds of ECT and it did next to nothing for us, so our psychiatrist decided that ketamine is the best thing to try because it treats PTSD / Complex PTSD, depression, and suicidality, and he said it has a 60%-70% chance of being effective. The only issue which we've discussed with a friend who also has DID and went through ketamine treatments, is that the doctors tell us that the dissociative effects of the ketamine only have residual effects for about 2ish hours after the treatment, but for us with DID the dissociative effects have persisted and made our DID even more intense and having more vivid switches between alters and just generally higher levels of dissociation, but there doesn't seem to be any research done on ketamine with DID. We know our psychiatrist is absolutely incredible, like world renowned for his work with trauma and has done so much to help the PTSD / Complex PTSD population, and we trust him immensely. The only issue is that he doesn't seem too familiar of the DID experience, but he is very open minded and he absolutely believes us, I think it's just more in a general sense there's not a great level of awareness. But we're going to talk to him about what we discussed with our friend and see his views on it. We personally think the ketamine isn't going to be as effective because of our DID, like our brain is wired differently from the trauma and is different to the pure PTSD / Complex PTSD experience, and we think it would take a lot more treatment for things to be overtly effective, but we're just guessing here.

Honestly, as screwed up as this is, we don't want it to work. We want suicide. We need suicide. Treatment can only do so much, the trauma is never going to go away, that's impossible, and we can't live with the knowledge of our trauma and what's been done to us and knowing the level of human depravity that exists in the world, it's too fucking painful.

Our existence is agony and honestly that doesn't even feel like it gives it justice.

We admit defeat.
I wish you well and appreciate you sharing ♥️
If you don't mind me asking, which artery did you cut? I considered doing it but my fear is that my natural instincts will kick in and make it difficult for me to actually press the cut when I get there
 
needthebus

needthebus

"Treatment" Used Up My Allotment of Fake Smiles
Apr 29, 2024
772
I am skeptical these people are helping because ECT is so brutal and so unhelpful, according to almost all anecdotal accounts I've read. I have a very hard time that a procedure that OFTEN results in permanent long-term memory loss somehow helps people. It seems barbaric and cruel and the fact that they tried this on you makes me think they care more about money and following protocols than caring about you, although many of them are good actors or believe their own lies that they care.

If all of you got out, just stopped indulging in psychiatry and psychology and their horrible costs and procedures, perhaps you'd do all do okay.

Why do all of you want to die? I know you are traumatized, but do you not enjoy life? Are you financially able to afford living? Is the DID leading to identities switching in uncontrollable ways that are awful? I'm sure what led to DID was terrible, but why are you so unhappy?

Sorry to ask, and feel free to ignore. I am also sorry about the slightly-furious response. Doctors giving ECT to people without fully explaining that most people get unrecoverable memory damage and how little it works sort of really upsets me, as it's unethical, and often the "suggestion" to do ECT is made when patients are depressed and have little executive function and are vulnerable to being preyed upon.
 

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