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average-joe4

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I have a shotgun with green shells and a 4 on it, which I think are only birdshot, and pistol with 9mm hollow point bullets. Which is more deadly?

Is #4 going to be fine to ctb?
 
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Shotgun is definitely the better option, but I would choose either buckshot or slugs. Definitely not birdshot.
 
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average-joe4

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Shotgun is definitely the better option, but I would choose either buckshot or slugs. Definitely not birdshot.
But if you don't have access to any other shells what would you choose? I don't know if they green shells with a #4 on it are birdshot tbh, they might be buckshot. He had some red shells too, but I couldn't tell what gauge they were fuck fuck fuck
 
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unfortunately it looks like these days manufacturers will use whatever colour they want, because those colours used to be standardised by gauge... do you know the brand, by chance?
 
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average-joe4

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unfortunately it looks like these days manufacturers will use whatever colour they want, because those colours used to be standardised by gauge... do you know the brand, by chance?
Not yet. I go to their house in a day or two
 
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I wouldn't risk it if you don't know the gauge on that shotgun. If you absolutely must do it right now, then read these two:

I still wouldn't do it if you don't know the gauge. You can always kill yourself in the future, don't half-ass your attempt and end up disfigured and in a psych ward.
 
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Green shell and #4 is for a 12ga... #4 is most likely a .. duck or turkey load which is More than enough to get the job done. But hard to say for Sure without pics.

Best of luck to you in whatever may happen. ♥ 🙏
 
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Green shell and #4 is for a 12ga... #4 is most likely a .. duck or turkey load which is More than enough to get the job done. But hard to say for Sure without pics.

Best of luck to you in whatever may happen. ♥ 🙏
I somehow knew you'd be answering😅
 
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average-joe4

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I wouldn't risk it if you don't know the gauge on that shotgun. If you absolutely must do it right now, then read these two:

I still wouldn't do it if you don't know the gauge. You can always kill yourself in the future, don't half-ass your attempt and end up disfigured and in a psych ward.
My parents arent cutting off my phone and I'll likely be homeless soon after so I don't really have much to lose
 
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Between a pump-action shotgun loaded with no. 4 shot shells and a 9mm pistol with hollow point bullets, the shotgun is the more effective and reliable choice. An intraoral shot fired at zero distance from a shotgun eliminates any margin of error: the pellets act as a compact mass, penetrating the soft palate and destroying vital brain structures instantly. The lethality is virtually total and well documented. The amount of energy, the area affected, and the simultaneous fragmentation make the outcome irreversible. The 9mm pistol, while theoretically lethal if used with precision, does not offer the same degree of certainty. There are no reliable studies or medical records documenting survival after intraoral shots aimed at the soft palate using hollow point ammunition, but the absence of documented survivals does not automatically equate to a guaranteed outcome. We can only say it is likely to be effective, but less predictable. In conclusion: the shotgun eliminates all variables. The pistol may be effective in theory, but not proven with the same rigor. Those seeking a certain result choose the shotgun. Then again, anything can happen: you might slip off the stool before pulling the trigger, or end up with a defective round. But we're talking about truly exceptional cases.
 
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average-joe4

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Does this hold true if it's #4 birdshot or were you referring to buckshot?
Between a pump-action shotgun loaded with no. 4 shot shells and a 9mm pistol with hollow point bullets, the shotgun is the more effective and reliable choice. An intraoral shot fired at zero distance from a shotgun eliminates any margin of error: the pellets act as a compact mass, penetrating the soft palate and destroying vital brain structures instantly. The lethality is virtually total and well documented. The amount of energy, the area affected, and the simultaneous fragmentation make the outcome irreversible. The 9mm pistol, while theoretically lethal if used with precision, does not offer the same degree of certainty. There are no reliable studies or medical records documenting survival after intraoral shots aimed at the soft palate using hollow point ammunition, but the absence of documented survivals does not automatically equate to a guaranteed outcome. We can only say it is likely to be effective, but less predictable. In conclusion: the shotgun eliminates all variables. The pistol may be effective in theory, but not proven with the same rigor. Those seeking a certain result choose the shotgun. Then again, anything can happen: you might slip off the stool before pulling the trigger, or end up with a defective round. But we're talking about truly exceptional cases.
 

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