Discussion Venezuela is the strongest argument for being antinatalist

[Versailles]

Lately I have been witnessing how my country has become a disaster where millions of people suffer every day without any solution, the pain is immense and it seems that there is no solution since the thing is more complex than one can think

Several countries like Cuba, Russia, North Korea, Albania, countries in Africa, Nicaragua, among others are going through similar situations and the list could grow, a future where the quality of life is so bad thanks to some politician in power who decided to become an authoritarian dictator and stay in power for decades and decades,

It is so absurd that our quality of life is so fragile to the point that it can go to hell thanks to the decisions of a couple of shitty politicians, but nevertheless, it is the world in which we live, politics as we know it is a mistake; the system of countries, borders and governments is a mistake, capitalism is a mistake. As humanity we have worked to sentence our future and it seems that day after day we sink more and more.

No, I don't want to bring a child into a world where at any moment their quality of life can change due to an economic crisis, a dictatorship, a natural disaster, a war or a pandemic. It's not even about the economy anymore because the economy is also a very fragile variable, the money you have right now can be drastically devalued and become nothing tomorrow. Nothing in this system is designed to guarantee our quality of life in the future, even pensions are becoming more and more precarious because they also depend on the country's demographics. Everything in this system is designed to collapse and become a disaster overnight.

 

[Endofpain]

I agree but I tske it a step further. Even if you are in a developed country with the best prognosis, having children is immoral. There is always a change of getting born with depression or disability. Never to have been born beats that 100% of the time :-)

 

[Darkover]

it's clear that the economy is a house of cards. A single shock, whether in the form of a financial crisis, a supply chain breakdown, or an environmental disaster, could trigger a domino effect that collapses entire sectors of the global economy.

The economic model of capitalism, built on constant growth, consumption, and competition, is increasingly unsustainable. It relies on an endless supply of resources and labor, but many of the resources we depend on are finite, and much of the labor is being exploited or underpaid. The wealth disparity has reached unprecedented levels, with the ultra-wealthy accumulating vast amounts of wealth while the rest of the population faces stagnation or decline. The middle class is shrinking, and the working poor are left to bear the brunt of economic instability.

Capitalism also functions on the principle of infinite growth, yet the planet is running out of the resources needed to fuel such growth. Climate change, environmental degradation, and over consumption are becoming impossible to ignore. These environmental crises, from rising sea levels to extreme weather events, are already destabilizing communities and economies, particularly in the most vulnerable regions.