Venting What do they even do with job applications?

[fleetingnight]

Burn them? Throw them in the garbage? With how long I've been applying, it feels like that's what they do. I send in applications maybe every other day. I've been at it for months, and it's all low pay entry level wageslave bullshit, but I don't even get so much as a rejection call out of courtesy. Doesn't "no one want to work?" Aren't businesses "desperate for new hires?" Is it something wrong with me, am I just so repulsive they can tell through email?

I don't have the money to work on myself or to end it all, what a sick joke.

Edit: I'm just adding this to this thread cause I don't wanna start another one but I just fucking broke something and I'll have to waste money replacing it. God why am I so reckless and stupid! I don't have the goddamn money for this! I don't have the money for anything! I JUST bought this one too! What the hell is wrong with me, am I a child, I can't own anything without breaking it immediately? I'm literally going to run out of money, and when that happens, I really won't be able to live anymore!

 

[untothedepths]

I totally understand your frustration. To be honest with you, know one knows, but I like to think some employers just wipe their ass with them. It's probably not you, its just that even entry level jobs are looking for people who have 50 year experience, 49 years experience of managing, good references from Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos, and must have a doctorate in rocket science and physics.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I totally understand your frustration. To be honest with you, know one knows, but I like to think some employers just wipe their ass with them. It's probably not you, its just that even entry level jobs are looking for people who have 50 year experience, 49 years experience of managing, good references from Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos, and must have a doctorate in rocket science and physics.

Exactly what you say here. Even for basic jobs they expect degrees, years of experience and so on. It's really frustrating and mind draining.

 

[accountnamerequired]

I can relate totally to this, submitting application after application to no avail. Personally I like to call these unskilled no degree jobs I'm applying to "peasant jobs". Its pretty humiliating every time too lol, I hate the risk of anyone I know coming into these places while I'm there.

 

[ForgottenAgain]

I've been on the other side of hiring, receiving applications and done a few interviews. I can tell you it's not you, employers receive a lot of applications and some are just...crazy. I've received job applications where it was just an email with an image that would link to a website. Other applications had nothing to do with the advertised job, like: posting a job about programming and receiving applications from people that work in pastry or art. I even replied asking if the people wanted to work in programming and they said no, so why did they apply? Couldn't do this with everyone as every day my inbox would receive 200+ emails.

The truth is that a lot of people apply for jobs, give 0 thought into it and clog the system. People that look at the applications then need to go through tons and tons of garbage to find the actual good applications and, during that process, several good ones don't make it.

I can totally imagine that for "wage slave jobs" they receive even more garbage applications.

 

[Redleaf1992]

My brother in law used to work in recruitment. I know alot of companies will have a automated sytem that filters CV's. To avoid it getting filtered your CV will need to have keywords they are looking for.

The advice I was given was to look at the the advertised job role, and see what key words they use to describe the role and make sure they are included in your cv.

For example if the job applications mentions problem solving skills mention problem solving in your cv.

It's a bit of a broken system but as @ForgottenAgain says, they have to deal with so many CVS.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

My brother in law used to work in recruitment. I know alot of companies will have a automated sytem that filters CV's. To avoid it getting filtered your CV will need to have keywords they are looking for.

The advice I was given was to look at the the advertised job role, and see what key words they use to describe the role and make sure they are included in your cv.

That came to my mind years ago that this could be the case. Each CV (and cover letter) would need to be designed for the exact job offer. Like SEO for websites. That would be a huge task in itself to do that for so many different job applications.

I also agree that chances are low to succeed when they get 100's of applications for a certain job offer.

 

[Redleaf1992]

That came to my mind years ago that this could be the case. Each CV (and cover letter) would need to be designed for the exact job offer. Like SEO for websites. That would be a huge task in itself to do that for so many different job applications.

I also agree that chances are low to succeed when they get 100's of applications for a certain job offer.

Yeah unfortunately it does involve tailoring your cv for each job.

That said I think you would have a lot more success applying for less but with a high quality application than going for the scatter shot gun approach.

Even if you generic cv got through the system, it will be obviously generic to the person reading the cv and will be beaten everytime by someone who has tailored it.

By tailoring it at least you stand a chance with the few jobs you do apply for.

 

[fleetingnight]

I've been on the other side of hiring, receiving applications and done a few interviews. I can tell you it's not you, employers receive a lot of applications and some are just...crazy. I've received job applications where it was just an email with an image that would link to a website. Other applications had nothing to do with the advertised job, like: posting a job about programming and receiving applications from people that work in pastry or art. I even replied asking if the people wanted to work in programming and they said no, so why did they apply? Couldn't do this with everyone as every day my inbox would receive 200+ emails.

Oh, that's fair, I can see why that's really frustrating on both ends. Thank you for sharing your POV with me. I bet a lot of people use bots to apply to jobs, though I don't know why they would think that's a good idea.

My brother in law used to work in recruitment. I know alot of companies will have a automated sytem that filters CV's. To avoid it getting filtered your CV will need to have keywords they are looking for.

The advice I was given was to look at the the advertised job role, and see what key words they use to describe the role and make sure they are included in your cv.

I suppose I'll have to try that. I've tailored it a couple times when it was a job I really really wanted, but just a rare few times. It's definitely pretty exhausting to have to put in that much work for probably another rejection, but as I said, I see that it's not just applicants who are frustrated by it.

 

[fleetingnight]

There's no way. It's impossible. It's really impossible. It must be.

If I apply online, half the websites don't even work. Half of those are scams collecting my data to sell to who knows who for God knows what. If I apply in person, I get "You have to apply online, can't you read the sign?" I can try anything to convince them to talk to me in person, but they just get angry with me and assume I'm bad with computers. I know I'm not charismatic, but God, I don't know what the fuck they want from me.

I can't get a job with my few connections. And I can't make more connections. Even when I make myself suffer through the agony of social anxiety, I can never act likable enough to earn connections no matter how hard I try

What the fuck am I supposed to do? I'm not ready to die this year, but I'm going to die this year, because I apply to jobs every single day and nothing fucking works. If I was less stupid and less of a coward, I'd find somewhere to jump tomorrow. Save myself the suffering.

What do they expect from me? What the actual fuck am I supposed to do? And how the fuck am I supposed to know that? I don't even have a chance, no matter how hard I try, no chances exist anymore

I said I'd log off for a bit, but I'm crying again and don't know what to do besides vent about it, nothing else can be done anymore

 

[locked*n*loaded]

As soon as you leave the interview, once they decide that you're not the right one for the job, they file your application in the circular file.

 

[fleetingnight]

As soon as you leave the interview, once they decide that you're not the right one for the job, they file your application in the circular file.

I'm convinced some of them do before they even read it. Just bored, or don't like the sound of my name or some shit, lol

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I'm convinced some of them do before they even read it. Just bored, or don't like the sound of my name or some shit, lol

I agree. No doubt that happens a lot.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

That really sounds like a nightmare. Applying for jobs can be so frustrating. I hope you're lucky to find a new job You try so hard and this should be rewarded!

 

[Cruelhearted]

When I look online all I see are recruiting agencies posting for jobs. Most of those are fake. I always hear about how there's so many jobs but I never find them. The whole world is becoming one big ass scam.

 

[fleetingnight]

That really sounds like a nightmare. Applying for jobs can be so frustrating. I hope you're lucky to find a new job You try so hard and this should be rewarded!

Thanks for the kind comment (again!) It means a lot as always :') <3

When I look online all I see are recruiting agencies posting for jobs. Most of those are fake. I always hear about how there's so many jobs but I never find them. The whole world is becoming one big ass scam.

I've heard to only apply on corporate sites, but even those aren't working out for me. A lot of them are so horribly made too. I've been trying to stick to them anyways though, just in case. It really bothers me too how everything is some kind of scheme or trick to steal our personal data, more with each day, it's the worst

 

[F&Inside]

Hello.
I understand you perfectly, if you can't make a living even if you want to, how the hell are you going to do it? many people are forced to CTB because of this, they do not want to be homeless! and it is a DISGRACE

I tell you not to give up and honestly wish you lots of luck, that you arrive at the right time to get hired and achieve stability for many years

 

[ijustwishtodie]

It's absurd as to how competitive and difficult life itself is. This isn't even focusing on the job itself but rather merely trying to get the job. Life is simply too difficult for me and I'll never comprehend how normies do it. I don't want to struggle in the same way everybody else has to. I'd rather try and kill myself so that I can avoid being a wage slave and also slaving away to prove that I'm a good wage slave. Life is just too stressful and I don't want any of it. I know that I'm rational for not wanting any of life because this is the struggle that we have to go through. I'm sorry for what you're going through.

 

[Cinnamorolls]

Most entry level jobs with no degree or certification required receive hundreds to thousands applications for every 1 position open so unfortunately it would be impossible for them to personally answer everyone. If you want something where you're almost guaranteed to get hired because no one wants to do it and hardly anyone applies for it, I know of a job like that. Paraprofessional, also called instructional aide and perhaps some other alternate terms depending on your location. You don't need experience or a work history or really anything besides a pulse. You sit in a classroom with mentally impaired children (typically with autism but occasionally Down's Syndrome or other things) and don't do much besides keep an eye on them and assist with their classwork if needed. The downsides are that you risk being hit, scratched, bitten etc if they have a meltdown and that it is an at-will job (no contract or anything, so you can be let go at any time for any reason - but I think this is true of most low-level jobs anyway). Like literally the only way you wouldn't get immediately hired for this job is if you have a criminal history/couldn't pass the background check. They will take aaanybody.

 

[fleetingnight]

I did it. I got a job. I'm surprised, but also surprised it took so long. Good thing, cause I wasn't making much progress on my few "bucket list" items, haha. Though, I was told I was hired a little bit before being officially hired. I didn't wanna say anything til it was official jic, but I've had most plans on pause since then

I wish I had some advice to share with everyone still looking, but idk, I'm not sure what I did differently. I used to act more serious/professional in interviews, but I got more calls back when I acted more friendly instead. (Maybe that's obvious, idk, I wanted to be taken seriously.) I acted similar to the manager, like a mix between how I usually act and their personality. I'm lucky they were kinda easy to read, though.

I already know it's gonna stress me out, but it can't be more stressful than unemployment for me. It pays, so I rlly couldn't give a fuck (If you see me complaining about my job in the future, don't @ me, lmao.)

Thanks so much again to everyone whose been nice and offered their input here. I know I talk a big game, and still wasn't ready to die last month, but my account is basically empty now, so I wouldn't have had a choice soon. I can't say everything's fine now, and I guess anything could still happen, but it's a small victory that I'll definitely take.

 

[GuessWhosBack]

Good luck on your new job!

 

[fleetingnight]

Good luck on your new job!

Thank you!!<3

 

[DarkRange55]

I can go into detail on this but I'll oversimplify for this thread. It is actually a little more complicated in some cases. I do know people in HR, managers, owners, ect.

First, good luck with whatever your endeavors are!

One big thing is AI spamming with a million applications so companies in turn use AI (i.e., me -wink- -wink- ) to sift through everything.

My friend has a conspiracy theory that companies aren't hiring anymore because during the lockdowns they realized they could do just as much with much less. My other friend responded by saying, "thats not a conspiracy theory. Thats reality. I'm in those meetings."

 

[fleetingnight]

My friend has a conspiracy theory that companies aren't hiring anymore because during the lockdowns they realized they could do just as much with much less. My other friend responded by saying, "thats not a conspiracy theory. Thats reality. I'm in those meetings."

It really helps to know, so thank you for the info, but, Jesus, that's scary. I already knew AI was ruining my life (as an artist, lol) but I didn't know it was even ruining this part of it. I'm not against all AI of course, but stuff like this doesn't make me feel optimistic about it (not blaming people like you for it. I guess none of us really have a choice.)

I have no idea what could be done to fix that problem anymore, so it definitely scares me. I hope there's an answer that someone can find. I can't do this shit again. Just thinking about it fills me with dread, and I bet it's the same for some hiring managers

 

[DarkRange55]

It really helps to know, so thank you for the info, but, Jesus, that's scary. I already knew AI was ruining my life (as an artist, lol) but I didn't know it was even ruining this part of it. I'm not against all AI of course, but stuff like this doesn't make me feel optimistic about it (not blaming people like you for it. I guess none of us really have a choice.)

I have no idea what could be done to fix that problem anymore, so it definitely scares me. I hope there's an answer that someone can find. I can't do this shit again. Just thinking about it fills me with dread, and I bet it's the same for some hiring managers

Some companies also just have fake postings

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I can go into detail on this but I'll oversimplify for this thread. It is actually a little more complicated in some cases. I do know people in HR, managers, owners, ect.

First, good luck with whatever your endeavors are!

One big thing is AI spamming with a million applications so companies in turn use AI (i.e., me -wink- -wink- ) to sift through everything.

My friend has a conspiracy theory that companies aren't hiring anymore because during the lockdowns they realized they could do just as much with much less. My other friend responded by saying, "thats not a conspiracy theory. Thats reality. I'm in those meetings."

Some companies also just have fake postings

It proves my mindset set that I'm useless and discarded after failing big in life in early 40's (that's more than 1/2 of a decade by now). Knowing about this stuff is so interesting but at the same time it makes me very suicidal and depressed.

Chances to "start over" after a certain age are near 0 nowadays.

However, young people still have chances bc it's their environment they are living in and starting sth and having success was never easy but nowadays it's so much more difficult.

 

[DarkRange55]

It proves my mindset set that I'm useless and discarded after failing big in life in early 40's (that's more than 1/2 of a decade by now). Knowing about this stuff is so interesting but at the same time it makes me very suicidal and depressed.

Chances to "start over" after a certain age are near 0 nowadays.

However, young people still have chances bc it's their environment they are living in and starting sth and having success was never easy but nowadays it's so much more difficult.

I think it certainly can be difficult. Generally an MBA has been considered a career restart button. Those programing bootcamps were popular.
I feel bad for new computer science students based on what my best friend has told me about their job market.

It really helps to know, so thank you for the info, but, Jesus, that's scary. I already knew AI was ruining my life (as an artist, lol) but I didn't know it was even ruining this part of it. I'm not against all AI of course, but stuff like this doesn't make me feel optimistic about it (not blaming people like you for it. I guess none of us really have a choice.)

I have no idea what could be done to fix that problem anymore, so it definitely scares me. I hope there's an answer that someone can find. I can't do this shit again. Just thinking about it fills me with dread, and I bet it's the same for some hiring managers

Coincidentally my two best friends, both of their brothers majored in mechanical engineering. One has been extremely successful with it. The other went through 80 interviews (not applications) and said screw this.

 

[Blooper]

I did it. I got a job. I'm surprised, but also surprised it took so long. Good thing, cause I wasn't making much progress on my few "bucket list" items, haha. Though, I was told I was hired a little bit before being officially hired. I didn't wanna say anything til it was official jic, but I've had most plans on pause since then

Congrats, man. It is definitely tough to be applying for jobs right now, there's fierce competition in this employers market. They hold all the cards for now.

 

[fleetingnight]

The thing that some people don't understand about applying to jobs and why it's so hard is that you don't just send your resume and that's it. Most jobs have these forms you fill out, where it's basically you rewriting your entire resume for them, but inputting it into the boxes they tell you too. Yeah, I get it, it's hard to read through a bunch of text files, but, isn't that the hiring manager's job? I don't want to be entitled, but between that, and creating new accounts for whatever random hiring site the company uses (even though I know it'll get my email spammed to shit) and editing my resumes to prioritize the info they're asking for, and writing cover letters, it takes up so much time, and it's exhausting. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's always been this hard, but it seems worse than it used to be