What do you guys think about this quote?

[pumpkinz]

Personally I think whoever made this is a naive fucking dumbass, who does not understand suffering. Depression is not a "temporary problem" like your car breaking down is a temporary problem. It can last fucking years, decades, lifetimes. I think it sounds insensitive as fuck and just plain stupid to anyone who has dealt with severe depression for a long period of time. But maybe some of you might disagree and find it uplifting or true in some sense. I'm curious, let me know

 

[Sleeper System]

Nobody wants to be depressed. When people don't want something it's in our programing to resist in some form. Some people's way of resistance is to rebel against life as a whole and chose to end it. Some people want to fight it by trying to get better or build a foundation of tolerance. Many reasons for both options but this quote focuses on the latter. It's more about having hope than anything else. I agree depression isn't curable. Just manageable. and some people often misinterpret depression as sadness and they are two different things. Hope is naive but sometimes it's all you have and as humans we've seen it work so it's not like there isn't a plausible reason to have it. It's just some are cynical. I am some folks. But I'm just playing devils advocate.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

"Suicide is the permanent solution to permanent problems" - That's how I see it.

If personal problems were really only temporary and could be solved in a way that satisfies us I truly believe that a lot people wouldn't be suicidal.

 

[ScaredOfMachines]

If it were that simple, things wouldn't be like they are. I think it's mainly said by the same people who stay stuff like 'your skin isn't paper, don't cut it'. It's a phrase you can repeat over and over because it sounds deep, but actually thinking about it for a second makes you realize it's really stupid.

 

[Trismegistus_13]

I don't like it; I think it's very reductivist, even if it's technically the truth. I've always preferred quotes that show more empathy because mental illness is hard, and everybody deserves compassion.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Depressions are not the only reason for suicide. I have read, that 60 % of all suicides are caused by depressions. There are posts in this forum, that suicidality is the cause for depessions and not the other way round.

Concerning temporarity, life is temporary and death seems to be permanent. It is up to you, whether life or death is the solution or the problem.

 

[GlassMoon]

I also believe it over-simplifies the issues we are facing. I still do hope that my problems are temporary, and in that case, once they were dealt with, looking back at the desire to choose the permanent option will probably be frightening. But there's still a chance that those problems might be permanent, and I know others whose problems are permanent according to all currently available knowledge (chronic illness). I think the quote also ignores the fact that while a problem might be temporary in theory, one might be exhausted before being able to solve it, or loosing hope along the way.

 

[AnderDethsky]

"Life is really temporary

But can I do it more temporary?"

 

[OptingOutSmiling]

When we feel life is over, it is over. Regardless. Insensitive yes, then I googled the dude. Died at 88. Was in a documentary called Dead Blue: Surviving Depression (1988). Who knows what his story was, same as nobody really knows other people's stories. I don't think too much of quotes these days.

 

[pointblank]

When peoole say this phrase often times it comes from a good place which I acknowledge but yeah personal affairs or circumstances can be permanent too so the only logical conclusion is CTB.

 

[Theresnoescape]

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Personally I think whoever made this is a naive fucking dumbass, who does not understand suffering. Depression is not a "temporary problem" like your car breaking down is a temporary problem. It can last fucking years, decades, lifetimes. I think it sounds insensitive as fuck and just plain stupid to anyone who has dealt with severe depression for a long period of time. But maybe some of you might disagree and find it uplifting or true in some sense. I'm curious, let me know

I agree, no one can tell me 30+ years is temporary.

 

[Apathy79]

My hot take is it is a temporary solution to a permanent problem.

Spoiler: Reason

Reasoning: Reincarnate with the same unsolved issues that recur in the new life

 

[Hotsackage]

A lot of problems aren't temporary

 

[yellowjester]

It's true for the majority of cases, wether we like it or not. Most attempts are made during an acute mental health crisis where the person isn't truly aware of what they're doing. That said, making such crude generalizations is obviously not very helpful, and leads to further dismissal of patients who are suffering from chronic and untreatable conditions.

 

[FuneralCry]

For me, the fact that death is permanent is exactly why I find it appealing, I see existence as the temporary problem, in fact what I ultimately have a problem with is existence itself and it's something that only ceasing to exist can solve for me, all I see as desirable is never existing again, I'd always prefer to cease existing sooner to save myself from unnecessary suffering in this existence I never would have chose. In an existence where there's all this terrible suffering and cruelty permanently ceasing to exist is all that can bring me any peace, I'd be relieved to never exist ever again, to me existence truly does just feel like the most cruel, terrible mistake and it's something I'd never wish for, I have no interest in the futile, torturous burden of human existence and I'd prefer to be permanently unconscious of it no matter what.

 

[HarryCobean]

Well of course it's idiotic. Who wants a temporary solution anyway? If your pipes leak, you don't call the plumber and ask for a bodge job that'll break in a month, do you?

 

[Luke77]

BS I've always wanted to die

 

[divinemistress36]

Its a permanent solution to a permanent problem for some of us

 

[pumpkinz]

Nobody wants to be depressed. When people don't want something it's in our programing to resist in some form. Some people's way of resistance is to rebel against life as a whole and chose to end it. Some people want to fight it by trying to get better or build a foundation of tolerance. Many reasons for both options but this quote focuses on the latter. It's more about having hope than anything else. I agree depression isn't curable. Just manageable. and some people often misinterpret depression as sadness and they are two different things. Hope is naive but sometimes it's all you have and as humans we've seen it work so it's not like there isn't a plausible reason to have it. It's just some are cynical. I am some folks. But I'm just playing devils advocate.

I do definitely believe hope, even if naive, is almost always more beneficial than cynical realism. In a 12 step program, one of the steps is finding a higher power to believe in, a god or anything else, for that reason. I don't even necessarily believe depression is a lifelong disease — maybe for some the symptoms can go away after recovering for a long time with a stable support system. I'd surely like to believe life will be kind to me one day, and my years of being suicidal will only be a bad memory