What happens in my brain while I die. This is so interesting but also scares the shit out of me.

[naookoo128]

I'm surprised I haven't thought much about it yet (or about similar things like NDE).
A few days ago @boomsocknick (I hope its okay to link and quote you! But it looked like you´re very passionate about that topic, so I´m inviting you and everyone else to give thoughts) made the following post:

Explosion using bullets as shrapnel in an enclosed area to maximize damage. I think it's very uncommon but I think it's the only way to go. I think the method has to be faster than your tactile nerve response. It's been clinically observed that an estimated half of all people experience a spike in gamma brain waves, the waves associated with conscious alertness, a spike 300 times the normal range of conscious production. The final dreams at that time can reportedly be deeply horrific or deeply pleasant, and time may slow down, reportedly stretching one's experience of time so that decades or centuries pass in a single moment. But even these alarming anecdotes may not account for the human experience during the last firing of the last synapse. There may be a point at which, for example, the level of oxygenated blood dips below the point of resuscitation (no matter our tech level), but still enough to enable dreams, making the dreams unknowable to living people. I believe that your deepest psychological constitution decides if those dreams are joyful or if they're a nightmare that feels like a lifetime but only takes moments. If a person has always been insecure, paranoid, avoidant, poorly handles stress and change, or frequently recalls negative memories unprompted, these often incurable pathologies will determine how a person will experience death. And that's because they determine how a person dreams, whether the dream is drug induced or otherwise.

The worst case scenario is that you have a decades long nightmare tortured by all your deepest fears. The only contingency for this is dying a death that doesn't allow for the release of these brain waves, neurotransmitters, or any of the psycho medley that may cause the near death experience. The brain must be destroyed in an instant. Shotgun pellets only travel at 0.4 meters per millisecond. Nitroglycerin explodes at 7.7 meters per millisecond. Tactile stimulus signals take at least 4 milliseconds just to travel to the brain. If the dynamite sticks are resting directly on the back of your neck, the brain matter will theoretically be reduced to pieces that are too small for any consciousness or hopefully even perception of pain before the brain even realizes the imminence of death. I learned from a lengthy explosives safety manual that some kind of shrapnel in the nitroglycerin like firearm ammo will make the explosion significantly more deadly, as will detonating it in an enclosed space.

If you have the money, I'd recommend traveling to Potosi in Bolivia, where dynamite can be purchased legally. That's what I plan to do, hopefully not alone

So, I would like to talk about that, not so much about the method you´re promoting (sorry xd) but about the phenomenon itself.
It´s really terrifying but fascinating at the same time. Well, the idea if having this kind of "eternal" nightmare is not very cool. Although, the good version could be amazing.
I have different questions/thoughts on that. You said"If a person has always been insecure, paranoid, avoidant, poorly handles stress and change, or frequently recalls negative memories unprompted, these often incurable pathologies will determine how a person will experience death." Do you have a source for that? Please let me know.
And is it very naive to think I can maybe trick my dying brain with drugs to not have such a dream? I know you mentioned "that's because they determine how a person dreams, whether the dream is drug induced or otherwise" but my only experience with drugs before sleep is just that I´m having no dreams at all (or I just cant remember them afterwards I guess). I used to love my dreams, no matter if they´re good or bad. But thats also because I know they wont last for a decade!
I considered taking ketamin (a very small amount since I´m not interested in forcing that kind of dream with a k-hole) and/or weed (also a sedative and AE, and smoking makes me comfortable), so I´m curious.

Of course there are many interesting articles about that:

First-ever recording of a dying human brain shows waves similar to memory flashbacks — School of Medicine University of Louisville

What happens in our brain as we die?

louisville.edu

https://www.science.org/content/article/burst-brain-activity-during-dying-could-explain-life-passing-your-eyes

The very scientific version: https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2216268120
The very easy version but not so specific:

 

[whywere]

WE never die. Yes, the physical aspect goes away, however our "entity", be it a soul, spirit, all it what one wants to, is always around, always.

As far as the feeling of the physical aspect, I think that there are so many factors, that everyone has their own experience when leaving the physical part behind.

Walter

 

[naookoo128]

WE never die. Yes, the physical aspect goes away, however our "entity", be it a soul, spirit, all it what one wants to, is always around, always.

As far as the feeling of the physical aspect, I think that there are so many factors, that everyone has their own experience when leaving the physical part behind.

Walter

Okay, I have very different beliefs about that. But thanks for your Input, still, I´m not so much interested in a discussion about what death is, lets just assume it happens when your brain stopped doing anything. No spirits, no entity

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

I believe it´s like before we were born, just nothing, no existing, no regrets, no remembrance. But of course it could be completly different. For me this causes a feeling of exitement and curiousity, like before the start of a journey into the unknown.

 

[naookoo128]

Im talking about what happens while we´re dying, not if there is something afterwards.

 

[Pale_Rider]

When I caught the bus ( drank 345 Mg methadone ) there was a period of time where my parts expressed themselves. As the nods became heavier, and more sedating there were times where we were angry, and grieved. One of our parts were able to push that to the side [ host ] on the premise that we should not spend our last minutes in misery, but be free from the stain of the world. There were no dreams, or visions that I can recall. That's my experience.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Im talking about what happens while we´re dying, not if there is something afterwards.

It depends on how we die. What happens if your brain is blown away by use of a shotgun is obviously. What happens if the blood supply to the brain has stopped, for example caused by cardiac arrest is well documented. It happened that the brain waves were recorded when a patient was dying. There has also done lots of research with rats. You only have to look in the internet.

 

[naookoo128]

What happens if your brain is blown away by use of a shotgun is obviously.

Idk, is it? Yes, it explodes, okay. But I was talking about the theory that the guy I quoted had, you can read it up if you want. That was kinda his point, why he´s showing this unusual method, I think. That the brain wave spike even occurs in that case and so on. There are things than can happen in a splitsecond but feel like a long time. Thats where the whole "life passing before your eyes" thing is probably coming from.

There has also done lots of research with rats. You only have to look in the internet.

I know, they are mentioned in the links and videos above, but thank you!

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Idk, is it? Yes, it explodes, okay. But I was talking about the theory that the guy I quoted had, you can read it up if you want. That was kinda his point, why he´s showing this unusual method, I think. That the brain wave spike even occurs in that case and so on. There are things than can happen in a splitsecond but feel like a long time. Thats where the whole "life passing before your eyes" thing is probably coming from.

The muzzle velocity of a shotgun is about 360 m/s, the nerve conduction velocity is maximum 120 m/s, so I expect no "life passing before your eyes".

In case of cardiac arrest, the brain goes in it´s energy saving mode and shuts down it´s greatest energy consumer, consciousness. Even dreaming consums much more energy than deep dreamless sleep. So I don´t expect any visions before the energy supply of the brain is restored. All NDE happens when the brain comes back, I experienced it during hangings.