Discussion What would happen if a vigilante targeted actual CTB preventionist leaders?

[TAW122]

Disclaimer: I do NOT encourage nor endorse violent or illegal acts, and this thread is for educational and discussion purposes only.

With that out of the way, most of us who followed the news know about the CEO Shooter who targeted the CEO of one of the biggest insurance companies in the US/world. As a result, even though he was captured and is pending a trial as well as the social reception from many people around the US. The reactions from the public vary, but a significant amount of people (especially the ones who were victimized by health insurance companies either though lack of coverage, poor coverage, or similar ills), ended up lauding and praising the said individual for committing such a serious crime. So this thread asks the question, "What would happen if someone similar to that of a CEO Shooter or hitman, or assassin went and attacked a CTB preventionist leader or one of the organizations, or some pro-lifer, anti-choice organization?" Assuming that the current general view of CTB prevention is still a net positive, it may alter the reaction or outcome.

Now, on the contrary, if suppose the culture around CTB changes, people value bodily autonomy over blanket labels and diagnoses as the latter seeks to infringe on personal liberties and such, how would the outcome change? What this means is when CTB prevention has gone too far and even the average everyday people are getting negatively impacted by such actions, in other words, more than just inconveniencing their day to day life and personal freedoms. How would the public perception be if there was someone who took it upon themselves to take drastic action? Would the said individual end up with sympathy from the public similar to that of the CEO shooter, or would there be other reactions? Additionally, how would the CTB preventionists react, would they perhaps scale back their paternalism and impingement of bodily autonomy due to the extreme backlash?

Finally, as I reiterate once more, this is just a discussion thread for educational and hypothetical purposes and I do NOT endorse nor encourage any acts of violence, illegal actions, or anything that may be against the policies of this platform or community. I just wanted to get others' thoughts on what would happen if someone targeted actual people in charge of CTB prevention policies and programs, and what the fallout or aftermath would be.

 

[soapgoat]

I'm not too sure who the anti ctb leaders are. Advocating for anti suicide is pretty universal so there really isn't anyone behind that. Like 90% of doctors are against assisted dying. If someone were to kill a leader then nothing would change and they'd probably be viewed As a terrorist. If the culture did change (basically impossible) I doubt there would be much approval anyway. Suicidality isn't a major issue in society. Many people got screwed by insurance companies but not many people have been prevented from suicide or at least the ratio is very different.

 

[NotCreativeName]

It would make worst for thoses that suporte CTB or even almost Impossible to get things necessary. One thing is hitting a Guy that trives in deaths in a sector that is supposed to save lifes. People knows that this is only greed. Now killing someone that most people agree on is Just labeling you and others as the worst that should Be stopped

 

[ThisIsMe1357]

Any kind of similar violent act would only make the group to which the attacker belonged universally hated. So, on top of all the hate targeted at the group of people here already even more of it would be added to that.

The situation with that CEO is an exception to the rule of violence, and that is only because of how universally disliked the health insurance industry in America is. In almost all cases, any kind of violence would only make the group whose member committed said violence look bad. And it would be even worse if that group already looks bad enough in the eyes of the majority of the public.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Who even are the leaders for suicide prevention? I don't think that there are any leaders like that tbh. It just seems more so like a universal thing that people have agreed to hate on. I think that the only ways to change people's view of ctb is to either go at war with them or to throw aside all of the bullshit indoctrination that we put in place and instead teach kids (that have no preconceived idiotic notions about life such as religion) about suicide. Aside from that, I don't really see any other way to change people's minds. These people are too deluded by their beliefs to be swayed away by rational arguments

 

[TAW122]

Interesting discussion and replies on this thread, and I still reiterate and restate that I do NOT condone nor endorse violence, illegal acts, or anything that is not a part of the pro-choice values, but this thread is just for discussion purposes only. With that said, I do agree with the general consensus, since the prevailing and current attitude of CTB is that it is an outcome that should and is to be avoided according to the mainstream masses and normies. I also believe that people are right that if someone out there in the world decides to do what the CEO shooter did, but to a CTB preventionist leader (in some CTB prevention group), then it would unfortunately paint us all in a negative light. I do believe the case of the CEO shooter is different in the regard that like @ThisIsMe1357 stated, most people universally hate the health insurance industry and thus when a vigilante or assassin went and targeted said CEO (the face of the company) of one of the largest health insurance companies, quite a few masses rejoiced.

Regarding what @ijustwishtodie response, I do agree that there is not likely a central figure, albeit there are groups of CTB preventionists usually small and lead by a small leader or such, but even in that regard, not much would change. The only way for change is to reeducate and get rid of the 'bullshit indoctrination' that is passed down from generation to generation about life is precious, and religious values about life. I agree that most people are too deluded by their beliefs to by swayed by rational arguments.

Anyways, I just made the thread for educational and discussion purposes, to explore the topic and such, I don't encourage anything that is illegal, immoral, nor against pro-choice values.