What Would the World be like Without Rules, Police or Money?

[4everHeartBroken]

I've always wondered this since I was in my late teen years. Would most doctors still try to treat others if they weren't getting paid? Would therapists still help counsel without pay? Would teachers still enjoy teaching? Wouldn't the "killers", "rapists", "child molesters" and others with more primitive mindsets be cast out from most societies, naturally formed "tribes" instead of city rules and law enforcement or would these people just take over and form utter chaos for everyone?

Kind of like the song, "Imagine" by John Lennon.

I know I would still be me without rules or money. I would still be kind, loving and still have the needs and passion to help others . BUT….. honesty, I would probably have a lot more fear in a society where rules didn't exist with no law enforcement, but perhaps that's only because I've never known a society without rules or money and this is all I've ever known.

But my big question is, would this even be possible???

I know some "crazies" out there would probably still hurt others for their own crazy gains (rapists, killers, child molesters, ect.), but would the vast majority of people care for others and help each other out, or do we absolutely NEED rules and money in place for the majority of humans to behave?

I guess maybe I'm trying to ask, are MOST people inherently good by nature and born with empathy or do we absolutely NEED most of these rules and police in our societies for the greater good of everyone?

What would a more liberal and more accepting planet look like and could it even exist?

Your thoughts are so appreciated. Thank you.

 

[Forever Sleep]

It's an interesting idea. I've thought about it in the past also. Maybe not quite so much in terms of a modern society but, watching documentaries on small villages in Africa. People building mud huts and having close knit communities. It looked kind of idyllic but, it probably has all the same problems.

Even if money didn't exist, I expect trade would. Swapping 3 bags of potatoes for a chicken. The local healer maybe being brought herbs, books, food by people in exchange for remedies. I guess the idea is that everybody looks after everybody else. Their own particular skills are utilised for the greater good. Still- you'd still surely get power struggles, disagreements, people that didn't pull their weight, a criminal percentage. I'm not convinced everyone would live in harmony. I agree with you too. I think it would be frightening to not have emergency services you could call on. Or, the threat of prison, fines etc. to deter people from antisocial behaviour.

I saw an interesting documentary on a matriarchal tribe once. Initially, it was only women in this group but eventually, they started to allow men in who didn't mind being under female leadership. The depressing thing was, they were like- we do need some men- to protect us from other men who don't like what we're doing! That's not to say all men are violent or bad and all women are angels and good. I'm sure there are reverse examples too. I guess I'd like to experience matriarchal rule though. Maybe it wouldn't be so different though. Margaret Thatcher didn't shy away from war.

 

[4everHeartBroken]

It's an interesting idea. I've thought about it in the past also. Maybe not quite so much in terms of a modern society but, watching documentaries on small villages in Africa. People building mud huts and having close knit communities. It looked kind of idyllic but, it probably has all the same problems.

Even if money didn't exist, I expect trade would. Swapping 3 bags of potatoes for a chicken. The local healer maybe being brought herbs, books, food by people in exchange for remedies. I guess the idea is that everybody looks after everybody else. Their own particular skills are utilised for the greater good. Still- you'd still surely get power struggles, disagreements, people that didn't pull their weight, a criminal percentage. I'm not convinced everyone would live in harmony. I agree with you too. I think it would be frightening to not have emergency services you could call on. Or, the threat of prison, fines etc. to deter people from antisocial behaviour.

I saw an interesting documentary on a matriarchal tribe once. Initially, it was only women in this group but eventually, they started to allow men in who didn't mind being under female leadership. The depressing thing was, they were like- we do need some men- to protect us from other men who don't like what we're doing! That's not to say all men are violent or bad and all women are angels and good. I'm sure there are reverse examples too. I guess I'd like to experience matriarchal rule though. Maybe it wouldn't be so different though. Margaret Thatcher didn't shy away from war.

Love this!

That's exactly what I was thinking along the lines of…… trade. I think if we traded skills and formed our own societies or tribes naturally, I think it may actually work.

I agree with you…… men are naturally larger than us females, so I would want the men in my tribe to protect me, for sure!

I believe the vast majority of people are inherently good by nature (wouldn't physically harm others), but people with more primitive mindsets scare me.

I'd love to see that documentary you're talking about! Would you happen to know the name?

Thanks!

 

[L'absent]

It all depends on values. Values are social coefficients and have the purpose of limiting conflict, but we can do better. We are used to taking for granted the existence of feelings as part of our genetic makeup. This is not the case, we have impulses and if we can educate people to transform these impulses into emotions and feelings then there will be no need for police and money. It's about teaching people optimal ways to behave in a shared environment and community with other living beings, which we currently don't do because our capitalist society is, by default, based on individualism and maximizing personal advantage . Christianity puts the soul first and the primary purpose in life is the salvation of the soul. This culture is against an idea of community. The soul is individual, this is where our selfish culture comes from. And we are selfish as a species, think how much worse we can get with such a culture.

 

[ineed2die]

Lots of people would die for a while but eventually everything would calm down and be a lot better than the global capitalist slave system we have right now.

 

[4everHeartBroken]

It all depends on values. Values are social coefficients and have the purpose of limiting conflict, but we can do better. We are used to taking for granted the existence of feelings as part of our genetic makeup. This is not the case, we have impulses and if we can educate people to transform these impulses into emotions and feelings then there will be no need for police and money. It's about teaching people optimal ways to behave in a shared environment and community with other living beings, which we currently don't do because our capitalist society is, by default, based on individualism and maximizing personal advantage . Christianity puts the soul first and the primary purpose in life is the salvation of the soul. This culture is against an idea of community. The soul is individual, this is where our selfish culture comes from. And we are selfish as a species, think how much worse we can get with such a culture.

Love your answer…. Love your thinking!
Thank you!

 

[cloudyskye]

It would be survival of the fittest at its most brutal. I'd be ok with it.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Love this!

That's exactly what I was thinking along the lines of…… trade. I think if we traded skills and formed our own societies or tribes naturally, I think it may actually work.

I agree with you…… men are naturally larger than us females, so I would want the men in my tribe to protect me, for sure!

I believe the vast majority of people are inherently good by nature (wouldn't physically harm others), but people with more primitive mindsets scare me.

I'd love to see that documentary you're talking about! Would you happen to know the name?

Thanks!

It was so long ago I saw it, I really don't remember- sorry. Not even sure where I saw it to be honest. Might have been on TV. You Tube seems to have documentaries on matriarchal tribes. Not sure I recognise them though. I have a feeling this one was somewhere in Africa but, the mainland. The one I just spotted on YouTube was about a smaller island I think.

I agree with you though. I think the majority of people could be good under the right conditions. Still, it only takes one or two to wreak havoc!

 

[4everHeartBroken]

It would be survival of the fittest at its most brutal. I'd be ok with it.

You must be male. I don't think I'd be able to SLEEP if it would mean "survival of the fittest at its most brutal".

I like to think the vast majority of people wouldn't engage in violence, unless either they are under attack or their family is being attacked. Wouldn't the minority of humans be the ones who have the "hurt and kill others" kind of instinct? I think the majority of humans would cast those kind of people out of most social groups… kind of like strength in numbers, assuming most people are inherently good by nature.

I'd like to think the majority of people wouldn't engage in such behavior and instead collaborate on different living styles and form natural tribes that suit each individual. But definitely NOT a capitalist society!

 

[TragedyBornCrimson]

Humans would take a turn for the worst, people like us who have little grounding to reality would likely be mostly the same personality wise. There are people that I see change completely when situations get intense in any way. It would turn into survival of the fittest before reverting back to a feudal or gang system of sorts. There aren't enough genuinely good and smart people in the world that are willing to sacrifice a lot for this to not be the outcome of a society with no rules. Heck we live in the most balanced society has every been right now yet we still struggle as a whole due to people being selfish and plane evil.

 

[4everHeartBroken]

It was so long ago I saw it, I really don't remember- sorry. Not even sure where I saw it to be honest. Might have been on TV. You Tube seems to have documentaries on matriarchal tribes. Not sure I recognise them though. I have a feeling this one was somewhere in Africa but, the mainland. The one I just spotted on YouTube was about a smaller island I think.

I agree with you though. I think the majority of people could be good under the right conditions. Still, it only takes one or two to wreak havoc!

I think I may have actually seen the documentary you are referring to! It's been quite a few years as well, so I don't remember the title but yes! It was based in Africa and they were showing a "women" tribe who welcomed men. They would help each other build mud huts and take sleeping shifts on looking out for each other so the women didn't get raped by the men in other tribes. The men in this mostly women tribe were all trusted by the women. I'd really love to see that documentary again! It helped me to understand that the vast majority of humans are good by nature and the minority "creeps" (can't think of another name!) were somewhat controlled and cast away from other societies who simply want to live their lives in peace.

Humans would take a turn for the worst, people like us who have little grounding to reality would likely be mostly the same personality wise. There are people that I see change completely when situations get intense in any way. It would turn into survival of the fittest before reverting back to a feudal or gang system of sorts. There aren't enough genuinely good and smart people in the world that are willing to sacrifice a lot for this to not be the outcome of a society with no rules. Heck we live in the most balanced society has ever been right now yet we still struggle as a whole due to people being selfish and plane evil.

Interesting reply… But don't you think the majority of humans have evolved to have more empathy and compassion for each other while some are just still lagging behind a bit socially? So wouldn't it become a more "safety in numbers" thing over "survival of the fittest" mentality? I guess I should've asked, "Do most humans have true empathy and compassion for others"? At least that's what I'd LIKE to believe! Perhaps I'm delusional and would find out the hard way and get killed by someone in naturally formed tribes. I have no clue unless we actually lived in a complete liberal world.

Thanks for your input.

 

[KillingPain267]

I've always wondered this since I was in my late teen years. Would most doctors still try to treat others if they weren't getting paid? Would therapists still help counsel without pay? Would teachers still enjoy teaching? Wouldn't the "killers", "rapists", "child molesters" and others with more primitive mindsets be cast out from most societies, naturally formed "tribes" instead of city rules and law enforcement or would these people just take over and form utter chaos for everyone?

Kind of like the song, "Imagine" by John Lennon.

I know I would still be me without rules or money. I would still be kind, loving and still have the needs and passion to help others . BUT….. honesty, I would probably have a lot more fear in a society where rules didn't exist with no law enforcement, but perhaps that's only because I've never known a society without rules or money and this is all I've ever known.

But my big question is, would this even be possible???

I know some "crazies" out there would probably still hurt others for their own crazy gains (rapists, killers, child molesters, ect.), but would the vast majority of people care for others and help each other out, or do we absolutely NEED rules and money in place for the majority of humans to behave?

I guess maybe I'm trying to ask, are MOST people inherently good by nature and born with empathy or do we absolutely NEED most of these rules and police in our societies for the greater good of everyone?

What would a more liberal and more accepting planet look like and could it even exist?

Your thoughts are so appreciated. Thank you.

The "crazies" and those with "primitive mindsets" ARE already the ones currently in control of the Rules, Police or Money!

If this elite is gone, the next in line will just take over (vigilantes, gangs, organized crime syndicates). All the way down from most violent ruling over the least violent always (it's relative).

You see, you assume the rulers, police and money rules over violent oppressors, but it's actually the other way around. Violent oppressors ARE the rulers. The Trumps, the Jeff Bezoses, the Musks, the Bidens, they have been killing and exploiting millions for power, territory and profit. It's just, you don't see them PERSONALLY doing it, like a small fish criminal, because they have over time succeeded in duping millions into implementing their wills violently (by calling it patriotism, self-defense, growing the economy). The police uphold the property and money system and the military upholds the government territorial system.

 

[Judah]

I think our reasoning prevents us from living in a world like that, since it would be counterproductive. In other words, we are not animals that only care about eating and reproducing. Humans are much more complex than that, which is why as soon as possible humans will form groups, establish rules, and so on.

 

[4everHeartBroken]

I think I may have actually seen the documentary you are referring to! It's been quite a few years as well, so I don't remember the title but yes! It was based in Africa and they were showing a "women" tribe who welcomed men. They would help each other build mud huts and take sleeping shifts on looking out for each other so the women didn't get raped by the men in other tribes. The men in this mostly women tribe were all trusted by the women. I'd really love to see that documentary again! It helped me to understand that the vast majority of humans are good by nature and the minority "creeps" (can't think of another name!) were somewhat controlled and cast away from other societies who simply want to live their lives in peace.

Interesting reply… Thanks for your input.

The "crazies" and those with "primitive mindsets" ARE already the ones currently in control of the Rules, Police or Money!

If this elite is gone, the next in line will just take over (vigilantes, gangs, organized crime syndicates). All the way down from most violent ruling over the least violent always (it's relative).

You see, you assume the rulers, police and money rules over violent oppressors, but it's actually the other way around. Violent oppressors ARE the rulers. The Trumps, the Jeff Bezoses, the Musks, the Bidens, they have been killing and exploiting millions for power, territory and profit. It's just, you don't see them PERSONALLY doing it, like a small fish criminal, because they have over time succeeded in duping millions into implementing their wills violently (by calling it patriotism, self-defense, growing the economy). The police uphold the property and money system and the military upholds the government territorial system.

KillingPain - Interesting response. Thank you for opening my mind! This is very interesting and is making me think a bit outside the damn box I grew up in.

I have learned more over the past several months from people on this site than I ever had in my entire decades of life!!!! People seem so REAL here and extremely informative. My entire existence was being raised by "normies" and practically becoming one myself for some time.
Now, I feel almost repulsed by what we call a "society". I'm not happy anymore because I'm not as delusional as I used to be. Now, I choose truth over delusional happiness. It's much harder to find happiness in truth, but I don't believe in rainbows and butterflies without fear and sadness. I don't think the universe is out to get us, I believe the universe just doesn't care about us. Sorry….. I'm rambling.

 

[cloudyskye]

You must be male. I don't think I'd be able to SLEEP if it would mean "survival of the fittest at its most brutal".

I like to think the vast majority of people wouldn't engage in violence, unless either they are under attack or their family is being attacked. Wouldn't the minority of humans be the ones who have the "hurt and kill others" kind of instinct? I think the majority of humans would cast those kind of people out of most social groups… kind of like strength in numbers, assuming most people are inherently good by nature.

I'd like to think the majority of people wouldn't engage in such behavior and instead collaborate on different living styles and form natural tribes that suit each individual. But definitely NOT a capitalist society!

I think you're being naive. The truly evil people would run wild. I'm talking about the murderers rapist pedophiles etc... the ones who are already breaking the law criminals already in jail and those who've never been caught. True sociopaths who have little to no empathy. The narcissists who believe they deserve whatever they want. Most people frankly wouldn't be able to defend themselves. Those that can would take them out slowly.

 

[KillingPain267]

KillingPain - Interesting response. Thank you for opening my mind! This is very interesting and is making me think a bit outside the damn box I grew up in.

I have learned more over the past several months from people on this site than I ever had in my entire decades of life!!!! People seem so REAL here and extremely informative. My entire existence was being raised by "normies" and practically becoming one myself for some time.
Now, I feel almost repulsed by what we call a "society". I'm not happy anymore because I'm not as delusional as I used to be. Now, I choose truth over delusional happiness. It's much harder to find happiness in truth, but I don't believe in rainbows and butterflies without fear and sadness. I don't think the universe is out to get us, I believe the universe just doesn't care about us. Sorry….. I'm rambling.

You are right. There is some serious honesty and freethink on this site and disagreements rarely ever become hostile. Maybe because fighting people who are already a "threat to themselves" seems redundant, haha.

 

[4everHeartBroken]

You are right. There is some serious honesty and freethink on this site and disagreements rarely ever become hostile. Maybe because fighting people who are already a "threat to themselves" seems redundant, haha.

Good point!

 

[cloudyskye]

You are right. There is some serious honesty and freethink on this site and disagreements rarely ever become hostile. Maybe because fighting people who are already a "threat to themselves" seems redundant, haha.

I agree. I don't always agree with killing but I always appreciate they're thoughtful responses. Sometime you do run into silly nonsense but the mods are great about shutting down rude people.

 

[4everHeartBroken]

I think you're being naive. The truly evil people would run wild. I'm talking about the murderers rapist pedophiles etc... the ones who are already breaking the law criminals already in jail and those who've never been caught. True sociopaths who have little to no empathy. The narcissists who believe they deserve whatever they want. Most people frankly wouldn't be able to defend themselves. Those that can would take them out slowly.

This is interesting. You're right, perhaps I'm being naive. I guess I'd like to think that the vast majority of humans on this planet DO feel empathy for others and wouldn't be child molestors, murderers, ect. so if that were the case (IF that's the case), then wouldn't we have strength in numbers? Wouldn't the majority of humans fight for others well-being and safety within their tribe? I could NEVER kill….. BUT if someone were to hurt a child and I could prevent it, I would. I'm female, so I'd definitely gather the males in my tribe to fight for our children. But eventually, wouldn't the minority (offenders) die off from the majority? Or maybe we have a common "world rule" (the ONLY rule, perhaps?) that we can all agree on (the majority of us) that if anyone hurts another human being, then that person is cast out of the liberal society either by force or even death?

I guess I'm trying to figure out human behavior in the masses and see who wins. I just don't know if the majority of humans have evolved to have empathy OR if empathy is a fairly new trait in humans and still needs more time to evolve to effect the majority.

Maybe this is all just crazy talk and most humans do NOT have empathy….. but that scares me, and if it's TRUE, I really need to know and understand human behavior better!

 

[cloudyskye]

They may have empathy but they dont have the ability to defend themselves let alone others. I'm not talking about weapons I'm talking about desire and willingness. If you've ever watched the walking dead they do a decent job at what would happen if all got and systems breakdown. You would absolutely have your groups that form up but those groups would be led (ruled?) By those willing and able to do the so called dirty work.
Oh and I am a woman but I'm a U.S. Navy veteran married to a SEAL. Lol

 

[4everHeartBroken]

They may have empathy but they dont have the ability to defend themselves let alone others. I'm not talking about weapons I'm talking about desire and willingness. If you've ever watched the walking dead they do a decent job at what would happen if all got and systems breakdown. You would absolutely have your groups that form up but those groups would be led (ruled?) By those willing and able to do the so called dirty work.
Oh and I am a woman but I'm a U.S. Navy veteran married to a SEAL. Lol

A US Navy veteran and a SEAL?! In that case, I think I'd want you and your husband in my tribe!

I was always under the impression that any human can and will defend themselves under the right circumstances, for instance, if someone were to try to harm a child in our tribe. I think the pervs would be out numbered by the majority of human beings, no? Then wouldn't this fall under "safety in numbers", assuming the majority of humans don't enjoy hurting others and prefer working together as a team?

I would think the most desirable tribes (the strongest and happiest tribes) would consist of both men and women who hold similar morals and values because I believe we have individual strengths that can all help the entire tribe to survive and be happy as a whole.
Of course there's going to be some chaos because we obviously have SICKOS in this world. But if the majority of humans can ONLY kill in defense and the majority are good people, doesn't the majority win?

I know this sounds a bit hippy and sappy, but wouldn't love win over war? Don't we have more empathic people in this world than we do insane? Wouldn't the insane be the minority tribes (the smaller tribes, by far) and therefor would be corrected or killed by the majority for their hostile actions?

I guess it comes down to a question of empathy. Do the majority of humans feels such empathy or are we still in our primitive stages?

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EDIT: After thought. "Dirty work" as in kill?
Yeah, that's interesting. I believe most parents have it in them to kill someone if they walked in to see their child in danger due to a very sick human. I just don't think everyone would be out to hurt others if society broke down. Of course, you will always have some SICK FUCKS on this planet, but I'd think the majority would outnumber them in a heartbeat. I'd like to think we can all co-exist (the majority of us anyway) in naturally formed tribes.

Perhaps I'm completely wrong and the creeps would just start hurting and killing vulnerable people for their own survival?

If that's the case, then I'm absolutely ashamed to call myself "human".

 

[cloudyskye]

A US Navy veteran and a SEAL?! In that case, I think I'd want you and your husband in my tribe!

I was always under the impression that any human can and will defend themselves under the right circumstances, for instance, if someone were to try to harm a child in our tribe. I think the pervs would be out numbered by the majority of human beings, no? Then wouldn't this fall under "safety in numbers", assuming the majority of humans don't enjoy hurting others and prefer working together as a team?

I would think the most desirable tribes (the strongest and happiest tribes) would consist of both men and women who hold similar morals and values because I believe we have individual strengths that can all help the entire tribe to survive and be happy as a whole.
Of course there's going to be some chaos because we obviously have SICKOS in this world. But if the majority of humans can ONLY kill in defense and the majority are good people, doesn't the majority win?

I know this sounds a bit hippy and sappy, but wouldn't love win over war? Don't we have more empathic people in this world than we do insane? Wouldn't the insane be the minority tribes (the smaller tribes, by far) and therefor would be corrected or killed by the majority for their hostile actions?

I guess it comes down to a question of empathy. Do the majority of humans feels such empathy or are we still in our primitive stages?

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Yeah they have empathy but the idea of actually taking action is completely foreign. Look at all the people in places like NYC who watch someone being beaten or raped but they won't do anything that puts themselves at risk. It takes a certain mindset and a true belief in right and wrong to take action. Numbers don't mean a lot if everyone runs away. There was a story some years back about a man being shot in a gas station in Michigan. He managed to crawl inside and people were literally stepping over him to get gas. They wouldn't even inconvenience themselves to try and help him.

 

[avalonisburning]

It's an unsatisfying answer, but really - it depends.

I don't have a static and monolithic view of human nature. I think human nature reflects the systems we create and inhabit. It's a product of the environment the human is in, the material conditions they experience, the narratives they're told, etc. I believe the whole "humans are fundamentally greedy and selfish" narrative is a recent development and a cope fed to us by the ruling capitalists to justify and legitimize the decisions they make. It's a cope that was made true for the moment, because of the conditions created by those capitalists, but it's still just a cope.

If all rules, police, and money spontaneously disappeared from our world as it is now, then I think chaos would reign for a "brief" time. Brief being anywhere from five years to fifty. I think the outcome of this chaos depends entirely on the collective effort in the interim. If people can break the narratives and frameworks that we were left with before the chaos and practice empathy, cooperation, and mutual aid, then that will eventually be "human nature." On the flipside, if fear prevails, and strongmen take over, then hyperindividuality and dominance would be "human nature."

 

[4everHeartBroken]

Yeah they have empathy but the idea of actually taking action is completely foreign. Look at all the people in places like NYC who watch someone being beaten or raped but they won't do anything that puts themselves at risk. It takes a certain mindset and a true belief in right and wrong to take action. Numbers don't mean a lot if everyone runs away. There was a story some years back about a man being shot in a gas station in Michigan. He managed to crawl inside and people were literally stepping over him to get gas. They wouldn't even inconvenience themselves to try and help him.

That's the thing, I don't think parents would run away from their children or even the innocent children of other parents in their tribe if they see someone in danger. At the minimum, I'd grab a strong man (probably your SEAL husband! ) in my tribe and let HIM know and have him take care of it.
I didn't hear about the story in Michigan. That's so heartbreaking. I have been in a situation under severe stress and I could NEVER just step over a suffering human to get gas or fulfill my own need….. To be fair and honest, ONLY unless I was actually saving more people in the process. I thought most people think this way. Maybe I'm in for a HUGE awakening to a very scary world we live in. I just always assumed the vast majority of humans have evolved to have some kind of empathy towards others and to not be extremely selfish in the toughest of times. Perhaps I'm wrong.

It's an unsatisfying answer, but really - it depends.

I don't have a static and monolithic view of human nature. I think human nature reflects the systems we create and inhabit. It's a product of the environment the human is in, the material conditions they experience, the narratives they're told, etc. I believe the whole "humans are fundamentally greedy and selfish" narrative is a recent development and a cope fed to us by the ruling capitalists to justify and legitimize the decisions they make. It's a cope that was made true for the moment, because of the conditions created by those capitalists, but it's still just a cope.

If all rules, police, and money spontaneously disappeared from our world as it is now, then I think chaos would reign for a "brief" time. Brief being anywhere from five years to fifty. I think the outcome of this chaos depends entirely on the collective effort in the interim. If people can break the narratives and frameworks that we were left with before the chaos and practice empathy, cooperation, and mutual aid, then that will eventually be "human nature." On the flipside, if fear prevails, and strongmen take over, then hyperindividuality and dominance would be "human nature."

This makes a lot of sense. Thank you.

 

[compulsoryaliveness]

I think you should look into anarchism. Not like "fuck the rules" but actual anarchism.

It will probably help you discover what world you want to live in and why (even though it's an ideal, and even if we reached that ideal, many people would be violently killed for it to occur).

I recommend going into a hole about anarchism, and if you live in a city, there's probably a bookshop or events to attend where people discuss this stuff.

A warning though, a lot of these previously open spaces are becoming overpopulated with liberal leftists (not in a good way), but some anarchist are still there, desperate to discuss this and help form a better world.

In terms of examples from history, I really enjoyed reading about catalhoyuk!

 

[4everHeartBroken]

I think you should look into anarchism. Not like "fuck the rules" but actual anarchism.

It will probably help you discover what world you want to live in and why (even though it's an ideal, and even if we reached that ideal, many people would be violently killed for it to occur).

I recommend going into a hole about anarchism, and if you live in a city, there's probably a bookshop or events to attend where people discuss this stuff.

A warning though, a lot of these previously open spaces are becoming overpopulated with liberal leftists (not in a good way), but some anarchist are still there, desperate to discuss this and help form a better world.

In terms of examples from history, I really enjoyed reading about catalhoyuk!

Interesting. I'm definitely going to do some research and probably go down a rabbit hole of reading up on actual anarchism right now! I always imagine a world full of caring people with genuinely good hearts. Not saying this fantasy-world would be all rainbows and butterflies (there are clearly a good handful of creeps living on this planet…. our very own soon-to-be President again, just to name ONE), but a world with LESS crime, NO religion, NO politics, and more real education offered to those interested, including critical thinking skills, collaboration and empathy being taught to kids. That's my (oblivious! lol) vision of the world, before researching anarchism anyway! It sounds nice… even though it's probably just all in my head.