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I have considered using the widely promoted counselling app called betterhelp the but it's so expensive.

In the UK Betterhelp costs £50-£80 per week (billed monthly).The cost includes one therapy session per week as well as messaging your therapist anytime. It is automatically billed to you every 4 weeks.
https://www.helptoheal.co.uk/how-much-does-betterhelp-cost-uk-prices

it's called better help but help who ?????
 
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It's not well regarded on YouTube. I forget the controversy, possibly something to do with privacy issues.
 
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No one is safe from scammers and money grabbers. Not even people that want to end their lives. That is how sick and disgusting this world has gotten. Death is the only escape.
 
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I have considered using the widely promoted counselling app called betterhelp the but it's so expensive.

In the UK Betterhelp costs £50-£80 per week (billed monthly).The cost includes one therapy session per week as well as messaging your therapist anytime. It is automatically billed to you every 4 weeks.
https://www.helptoheal.co.uk/how-much-does-betterhelp-cost-uk-prices

it's called better help but help who ?????
yeah betterhelp is a scam. i think i remember hearing something about how not all betterhelp therapists are licensed therapists. people also constantly criticize the app on tiktok since many have had a negative experience with it.
 
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It takes a few months/years of reading about psychology, but once you get your head round it and understand how your emotions and thoughts are working, self help is an option... Coming from nothing it helped me understand myself without what someone 'thought' I was going through.
 
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It's not well regarded on YouTube. I forget the controversy, possibly something to do with privacy issues.
I'm not in favour of BetterHelp and tbh I find the whole concept of gig economy therapy to be unnerving and maybe even dystopian, but I think the privacy issues (and the hate in general) have been a bit overblown.
 
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You can call the WarmLine for free based out of New Jersey. If the machine picks up just leave your number and they will call you back. I have them on speed dial. 877 292 5588 I have talked about my plans to go to Dignitas.
 
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It takes a few months/years of reading about psychology, but once you get your head round it and understand how your emotions and thoughts are working, self help is an option... Coming from nothing it helped me understand myself without what someone 'thought' I was going through.

I feel understanding psychology truly is a very beautiful and intensely useful thing to know when dealing with your own mind; as we all do.

But I should also note, that sometimes arguing with yourself can be like playing chess with a pigeon.

A lawyer knows the law well; and would certainly be well for discerning on said law. A psychotherapist knows the human mind well; and would certainly be well for discerning on said mind.

But a lawyer cannot represent themself in court--or at least should not. For even a lawyer being tried themself, hires another lawyer to represent them.

And as such. A therapist too, I would wager--would hire another therapist for them; not because of any inadequacy of theirs, but because it's simply so difficult to juggle two jobs at once, within yourself--especially when you've so much stake in it.

I think understanding psychology & yourself truly does go a very long way for understanding yourself, and you are with yourself 24/7 in a way a therapist is not; so it is so so damn valuable too. But I think having another mind, can potentially be of good help too.

I wish you well in your endeavors. I love psychology too. And also, feel free to DM me anytime if you'd like to talk psychology as well. Take care!
 
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It's just advertised a lot in the UK and, they claim it's affordable. Although, I agree with you- £50-£80 a week doesn't sound at all affordable to me!

I suspect people are suggesting it in good faith because you seem to be open to at least trying therapy and this service at least claims to provide it at a reasonable cost. They likely don't realise what that cost is. Or, I suppose either they or their parents can afford it. That's my food bill though. I'd likely need to stop eating to afford that!
 
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I have considered using the widely promoted counselling app called betterhelp the but it's so expensive.

In the UK Betterhelp costs £50-£80 per week (billed monthly).The cost includes one therapy session per week as well as messaging your therapist anytime. It is automatically billed to you every 4 weeks.
https://www.helptoheal.co.uk/how-much-does-betterhelp-cost-uk-prices

it's called better help but help who ?????
You, help them put cash into their pockets. They help relieve you of all the cash you care to provide.
 
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I can't proclaim to know a great deal about better help. I have however had interactions with people online who were just of the mind that they didn't find their therapy to be effective.
I feel understanding psychology truly is a very beautiful and intensely useful thing to know when dealing with your own mind; as we all do.

But I should also note, that sometimes arguing with yourself can be like playing chess with a pigeon.

A lawyer knows the law well; and would certainly be well for discerning on said law. A psychotherapist knows the human mind well; and would certainly be well for discerning on said mind.

But a lawyer cannot represent themself in court--or at least should not. For even a lawyer being tried themself, hires another lawyer to represent them.

And as such. A therapist too, I would wager--would hire another therapist for them; not because of any inadequacy of theirs, but because it's simply so difficult to juggle two jobs at once, within yourself--especially when you've so much stake in it.

I think understanding psychology & yourself truly does go a very long way for understanding yourself, and you are with yourself 24/7 in a way a therapist is not; so it is so so damn valuable too. But I think having another mind, can potentially be of good help too.

I wish you well in your endeavors. I love psychology too. And also, feel free to DM me anytime if you'd like to talk psychology as well. Take care!
Completely off topic, but just wanted to say that i love the album you have used for your profile pic. Hunter and Bloodhail are my two favourite tracks 😊
 
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it's so subjective and only my experience with the one person i spoke to on there for like two/three months, but i really hated it when i tried it. it just felt like idk, it's hard to explain but they just basically validated me with all my unhelpful thoughts and behaviours. honestly it felt kinda fucked up and almost like they were feeding me to good brain chemicals and validations to keep my paying. (ended up validating and encouraging my almost obsessive crush on some girl and it spiralled out of control and ended up basically ruining all my other friendships too while following the "advice" that i paid for

also at least for me it lacked the in person feel too so i could just bs them completely and they'd not know any different.

so yeah would not recommend them (sorry this turned into a bit of a ramble or rant agains them but i feel like their help just took my money and made shit worse)
 
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Completely off topic, but just wanted to say that i love the album you have used for your profile pic. Hunter and Bloodhail are my two favourite tracks 😊
Wow!! Thank you so much! Yeah, it truly is a well-made album. I agree, btw—amazing tracks.

Say, have you read the Deathconsciousness booklet? That details the inspirations for the lore seen in those two tracks. I think the entire story of "the Hunter" in that booklet is pretty interesting. It's from page 32 to 37 of the booklet if you find a PDF of it online (pretty easy to; and if you can't feel free to shoot me a convo message & will send you a link.)

And also, if you're looking for more music recs—can't recommend Radiohead enough. Especially Kid A.

I think one of the beautiful things about music; is giving us language to understand feelings we don't know how to make sense of. It turns the incomprehensible in us into something recognizable. And that, to me; is something very very beautiful and very very powerful. It gives us another shot to realize what's happening within ourselves, and at least—even for a moment—break out of numbed confusion we submerge in during feeling; that confusion that can be—from being so submerged that reason ceases to be within reach, from the pure strain on our finger nerves.

Would also love to talk music & anything at all in DM's or private convo messages as well; even feel free to post on my profile page, as well—if that works better for you. Take care!

it's so subjective and only my experience with the one person i spoke to on there for like two/three months, but i really hated it when i tried it. it just felt like idk, it's hard to explain but they just basically validated me with all my unhelpful thoughts and behaviours. honestly it felt kinda fucked up and almost like they were feeding me to good brain chemicals and validations to keep my paying. (ended up validating and encouraging my almost obsessive crush on some girl and it spiralled out of control and ended up basically ruining all my other friendships too while following the "advice" that i paid for
I'm so sorry to hear that. That's awful. They basically screwed you over by giving you trash advice. You deserve the right to better advice [than that]. I really do hope you are able to heal from that and live a better life after that, and perhaps also find actually legitimate care in the future. Best of luck <3
also at least for me it lacked the in person feel too so i could just bs them completely and they'd not know any different.
Yeah, I might imagine body-language is a factor in effectiveness of therapy as well—them being able to body-read and all that. I've heard things like "vast majority of human communication is non-verbal"—and while I don't know that for sure—I can certainly admit that there are things communicated vis-a-vis [face-to-face], things that can be picked out & picked up in-person, that can't be discerned over sole text.
so yeah would not recommend them (sorry this turned into a bit of a ramble or rant agains[t] them
Nah, you're good. Thank you for sharing your experience.
I've heard from some minor sources (I will certainly not vouch for [the authenticity of] this; I merely skimmed the web for these details), that BetterHelp may also hire non-therapists in addition to therapists for it's work (such as mental health counselors, social workers, etc) so maybe your horrific experience was from one of those instead. But who knows, anything's possible.

I really do hope that there are better alternatives for online therapy available. I really do hope that people who are burned by BetterHelp are able to find actually adequate care for themselves; and are not turned off to all forms of therapy completely. People take as therapists should be trained therapists; just my own slice of cake on this.

i feel like their help just took my money and made shit worse

Take the money and run
Take our money and run, take our money

Idioteque, Radiohead
 
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Wow!! Thank you so much! Yeah, it truly is a well-made album. I agree, btw—amazing tracks.

Say, have you read the Deathconsciousness booklet? That details the inspirations for the lore seen in those two tracks. I think the entire story of "the Hunter" in that booklet is pretty interesting. It's from page 32 to 37 of the booklet if you find a PDF of it online (pretty easy to; and if you can't feel free to shoot me a convo message & will send you a link.)

And also, if you're looking for more music recs—can't recommend Radiohead enough. Especially Kid A.

I think one of the beautiful things about music; is giving us language to understand feelings we don't know how to make sense of. It turns the incomprehensible in us into something recognizable. And that, to me; is something very very beautiful and very very powerful. It gives us another shot to realize what's happening within ourselves, and at least—even for a moment—break out of numbed confusion we submerge in during feeling; that confusion that can be—from being so submerged that reason ceases to be within reach, from the pure strain on our finger nerves.

Would also love to talk music & anything at all in DM's or private convo messages as well; even feel free to post on my profile page, as well—if that works better for you. Take care!
Hey 🙂, I've only been listening to the album through deezer so if you would be happy to send me that link i'd very much appreciate it and will look forward to reading. I will message you.
Love radiohead as well, thom yorke is a wonderful songwriter i grew up on The Bends and Ok computer 9in my mid to late teenage years, with Fake plastic trees and Exit music for a film being a couple of my favourite records. I was less intimate with Kid A but i am going to listen again today.
An album i've recently been listening to is called Black Bay by Silver moth give it a listen (if you haven't already) i think one of the guys from Mogwai are involved.
I love your take on music and feel very similar. My depression has hit me fairly late in life (probably about 5 years ago, I'm 44) and i kind of lost my passion for many things including music, though i am listening a lot more again currently. I have discovered i have an affinity for a bit of modern classical over the last year or so i would highly recommend and album by Erling Cooper called Solan Goose if you are curious.

Side note, I had a look at posting on your profile but could not view it, maybe because I'm new here.

Take care my friend
 
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It's not well regarded on YouTube. I forget the controversy, possibly something to do with privacy issues.
it may have been this in part but it was found out many of the listed therapists on there were not certified, either correctly or not at all. there are screenshots of the research within some of the opinion pieces etc on this.
 
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You can just search for therapists in your country and message them for theraphy online.
 

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