why dont more of you just ctb with a firearm if your 100% convineced thats what you want to do?

[itriedinthislife2]

lets not pretend like the chance of you surviving a 9mm hollow tip even fmj to the head is probably 3% if even that lmao

seems like the best way and probably the way ill be going out. also, its always good to have a gun as a way out of things just become unbearable?
not that SN doesnt work but a nice 9mm to the dome would do it for 98% of you, lets not be silly. maybe some of you cant obtain them but maybe the local thugs/ goons?

 

[yowai]

Maybe it's the matter of money lol, I don't know the specifics but I'm sure a gun costs more than a bit of sn

 

[brain-fog]

I agree, but I don't have access to firearms. I would be probably long dead, if I had a gun with me.

 

[JustHere1]

If it's lack of money, you can get a loan or credit card to purchase with. End of life - who's going to take issue? Mostly it's fear of survival, which is overcome if you're serious. I find removing attachments to be helpful, and good to confirm your decision with yourself by sort of narrowing your field of vision mentally.

 

[CogitoMori]

Money, messy, waste of a good gun if you're somewhere nobody will find you

 

[CinerateX]

I'd love to, but where would I find one? They're not legal here in the UK, or at least very difficult to obtain with a license. And I don't know the first thing about obtaining one illegally. But yeah, generally agree, it's one of those methods ticks off all three boxes of easy, quick and painless with general confidence. Just as long as you live in the right area.

 

[Jon Arbuckle]

well, not everyone lives in the united states

 

[rozeske]

What is the point of this post?

 

[neenie]

A very American thought

 

[astr4]

What is the point of this post?

i can't help but feel it's meant to shame those of us still here. as though it's an easy choice to make at all.

 

[itriedinthislife2]

Money, messy, waste of a good gun if you're somewhere nobody will find you

messy is great! life is messy and it sucks! thats how im going to go out the moment i get my hands on one with a bottle of vodka it should be a great night. i wish the best for you man

Maybe it's the matter of money lol, I don't know the specifics but I'm sure a gun costs more than a bit of sn

fair point. i cant wait to get my hands on one in janauary. want to know something funny? its the only thing thats keeping me wanting to work my dead end job and keep grinding.... till i turn 21 on the 17th of this month and my life will TRULY be in my hands. it will be ,y gret escape, my best friend my pistol my way out of this life. hope the best for you

 

[NearlyIrrelevantCake]

Hard as shit to get a gun in Canada, I'd be refused instantly because of a decades-long history of psych ward stays. Any background check would ruin it for me.

 

[itriedinthislife2]

I agree, but I don't have access to firearms. I would be probably long dead, if I had a gun with me.

why is that?

If it's lack of money, you can get a loan or credit card to purchase with. End of life - who's going to take issue? Mostly it's fear of survival, which is overcome if you're serious. I find removing attachments to be helpful, and good to confirm your decision with yourself by sort of narrowing your field of vision mentally.

i love this. i love that you said this. yes yes and more yes. guns will guarantee it. lets go shall we? no more attempts. i care for all of you but if u really want to end it i will pave the way

Hard as shit to get a gun in Canada, I'd be refused instantly because of a decades-long history of psych ward stays. Any background check would ruin it for me.

know any goons personally? im sure u could if u want but fair point

i can't help but feel it's meant to shame those of us still here. as though it's an easy choice to make at all.

its an easy choice if u really want out... if u dont than keep making attempts.. just saying but to eacj there own

well, not everyone lives in the united states

fair enough

I'd love to, but where would I find one? They're not legal here in the UK, or at least very difficult to obtain with a license. And I don't know the first thing about obtaining one illegally. But yeah, generally agree, it's one of those methods ticks off all three boxes of easy, quick and painless with general confidence. Just as long as you live in the right area.

check check and check indeed. survival of a headshot 9mm? i think not lol.....

I agree, but I don't have access to firearms. I would be probably long dead, if I had a gun with me.

i love the honesty with this one.. same... turning 21 on the 17th. as u can assume.. big year for me... no criminal record, nothing ;)

 

[tiredash]

wanting to die and actually executing it are two very different things

 

[itriedinthislife2]

Money, messy, waste of a good gun if you're somewhere nobody will find you

waste of a good gun, when what your.... dead with ur brain spalttered all over the walls?

wanting to die and actually executing it are two very different things

are u tempting me? if i had one in my hand right now id show u on video call if youd like

thankfully i turn 21 soon

 

[Kalista]

lets not pretend like the chance of you surviving a 9mm hollow tip even fmj to the head is probably 3% if even that lmao

seems like the best way and probably the way ill be going out. also, its always good to have a gun as a way out of things just become unbearable?
not that SN doesnt work but a nice 9mm to the dome would do it for 98% of you, lets not be silly. maybe some of you cant obtain them but maybe the local thugs/ goons?

this shows your lack of understanding towards suicide, the need and readiness for it. it's not as simple as, 'oh, I can get a gun and just kill myself now no problem.'

not everyone has access. not everyone has an idea or resources to find gun sellers in the city street. not everyone has the capacity to go out there and make that effort.
even when you've finally obtained it, you'll still have to go through some extent of survival instinct. besides that, there are a series of thoughts that might make it even more difficult to fully pull the trigger. such as the mess that person might leave. as much as people don't want these to bother them, it can be enough to stop the attempt.

there are people who can do it immediately, and there are ones that are unable to because of said factors.

it's easy to think, talk or brag about, but once you have it on-hand, it's not going to be as easy as one might think.

 

[itriedinthislife2]

this shows your lack of understanding towards suicide, the need and readiness for it. it's not as simple as, 'oh, I can get a gun and just kill myself now no problem.'

not everyone has access. not everyone has an idea or resources to find gun sellers in the city street. not everyone has the capacity to go out there and make that effort.
even when you've finally obtained it, you'll still have to go through some extent of survival instinct. besides that, there are a series of thoughts that might make it even more difficult to fully pull the trigger. such as the mess that person might leave. as much as people don't want these to bother them, it can be enough to stop the attempt.

there are people who can do it immediately, and there are ones that are unable to because of said factors.

it's easy to think, talk or brag about, but once you have it on-hand, it's not going to be as easy as one might think.

yeah... i guess it all comes down to how bad you want to die but fair points and i cant counteract your argument

you mentioned the people who can do it immediately.. why would that be? why might make you assume that? surely they are at the end of the road. for the other folks with the SI, i think its more of a matter of them not wanting to die badly enough as bad as thst might sound. i really dont want to be that guy, we are all vulnerable here thats what makes us humans. as for me ill have it with me... if everything comes to an end in my life and everything hits the fan.. ill grab a bottle from the corner store, get drunk and grab the smith and wesson put it against the side of my head and pull the trigger. we on the same page?

if i had a gun now, nah? i got a bit of hope for my shitty life? as to where ill be in a couple years, who knows? lose my entire family, job and eveyrthing that natters to me, well ill certainly pull the trigger. again, u made valid points

 

[astr4]

for the other folks with the SI, i think its more of a matter of them not wanting to die badly enough as bad as thst might sound.

this is not how survival instinct works. if you know it sounds bad maybe don't say it, because you're coming off as an incredibly inconsiderate person right now.

 

[sad_dude]

I agree, but I don't have access to firearms. I would be probably long dead, if I had a gun with me.

true :((

 

[itriedinthislife2]

this is not how survival instinct works. if you know it sounds bad maybe don't say it, because you're coming off as an incredibly inconsiderate person right now.

ill be dead soon probably within the next month or so so i guess ill go out as an incredibly inconsiderabte person. most of us have mental health issues so maybe learn to bear with me? its not like ur talking to a "normal" person right now, although i can get a firearm with a clean record, no psych medications etc etc

it assures me that i have a way out. most do if u rlly want to leave bad enough but it seems that alot like to romanticize about it. i get it it takes alot of thought and planning and it might be the case when i get my gun but who knows... depends the state of my life like for the reason (not the only reason) that most people commit

true :((

sorry about that... its super easy in the united states thankfully

 

[astr4]

most of us have mental health issues so maybe learn to bear with me

you're expecting grace when you won't offer others the same idk what to tell u like maybe other people also have mental health issues? ones that present obstacles to killing yourself? does that explain things for you or do you still want to insist people just don't wanna die badly enough?

 

[CallmeWill4719]

Probably privileged American here But I prefer the use of rope. It's the least I could do because I always saw myself doing it in a hotel room. Less messy.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

Not everyone is from the US, guns can be expensive, and there are a lot of people who worry about potentially traumatizing others, especially loved ones. Ctb via gun is a very violent and messy method which may make it more traumatizing for those coming across the body and guns are also pretty inaccessible to most people. Along with that, while the chances are small, the idea of potentially messing up and being disfigured and/or mentally disabled because of this method can still be enough to deter some from using it. It's kind of like how some people are scared of flying in planes even though the chances of anything going wrong are low. Fears and worries aren't always rational.

It honestly doesn't take a genius to see why this wouldn't be the go-to method for many on here.

 

[itriedinthislife2]

Not everyone is from the US, guns can be expensive, and there are a lot of people who worry about potentially traumatizing others, especially loved ones. Ctb via gun is a very violent and messy method which may make it more traumatizing for those coming across the body and guns are also pretty inaccessible to most people. Along with that, while the chances are small, the idea of potentially messing up and being disfigured and/or mentally disabled because of this method can still be enough to deter some from using it. It's kind of like how some people are scared of flying in planes even though the chances of anything going wrong are low. Fears and worries aren't always rational.

It honestly doesn't take a genius to see why this wouldn't be the go-to method for many on here.

fair enough. very unlikely it wont take u out from a 9mm hollow tip to the side of the head but theres always the 5% chance right lol?

id sanction 1 million usd that if u do it and survive ill get my wealthy friend to personally give u that million dollars but hey i guess u got a point, cant i say the same about the SA method? i can guarantee u a gunshot with a hollow tip to the brain will take every single one of the people that commented and viewed this forum with the occasional 1/10,000 person surviving lmao but yeah always a chance?

i guess the people that ctb with a gun might have a different personality than someone that SN. potentially maybe more aggressive/ psychotic. seems like the people with perosnality types such as mcnutt and what not (im sure u saw his suicide video with that 12 guage)

Not everyone is from the US, guns can be expensive, and there are a lot of people who worry about potentially traumatizing others, especially loved ones. Ctb via gun is a very violent and messy method which may make it more traumatizing for those coming across the body and guns are also pretty inaccessible to most people. Along with that, while the chances are small, the idea of potentially messing up and being disfigured and/or mentally disabled because of this method can still be enough to deter some from using it. It's kind of like how some people are scared of flying in planes even though the chances of anything going wrong are low. Fears and worries aren't always rational.

It honestly doesn't take a genius to see why this wouldn't be the go-to method for many on here.

in the us no, i disagree. even people in immense poverty in chicago (king von, lil durk, g herbo) all had access to guns even if ur poor

in the us its pretty easy almost comically but i hear ur point about the traumatizing aspect yeah. death is traumatizing though but the fact u care about whoever will find u and me when i ctb says more about you than me. u can get a ruger or a smith for like $500 but again i hear what ur saying, fair points

its odd because alot of poorer people have guns in the united states its almost like a nessecity but again it all depends where u live ur situation, some people have different beleiefes around guns etc etc but thats going to be my ctb way

 

[Pryras]

thanks for letting me know a gunshot to the head will kill me.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I'm not in the US so I can't obtain a gun. If I could, I would have pulled the trigger already.

i can't help but feel it's meant to shame those of us still here. as though it's an easy choice to make at all.

Idk why but I feel like there's been an influx in users who keep on talking about how easy suicide is and how those who want to die will find a way to die otherwise they want to live. It's just- fuck, I joined this site to escape pro life bullshit like that, not to be indulged in it even more

 

[bananaolympus]

Many people don't want a violent death even if it gets it done in less of a sec, think about this you can get hit by a train or jump from a building you will be done fast but it gets a lot of guts to do that method

 

[SadRatQueen]

There are several reasons why I wouldn't use a firearm.

1. They freak me out. I've lost way too many family and friends to gun violence and just being around them makes me anxious.
2. Too expensive. Where I reside, it's hard to get a firearm. Even harder when you don't have the money for them.
3. The mess. I already feel like I'm enough of a burden, so I much rather not burden them more with the cleanup as well.
4. Such a sight would be too traumatizing. At least if I went out with sn or oding, I would at least look somewhat normal to those who find me.
5. I live close to a school. I do not need to freak out parents and children who are uninvolved.

 

[OptingOutSmiling]

My first thought, but very difficult to obtain in my country, which led me to google alternative methods and finding my way here to SN.

 

[Lady Laudanum]

I worked in emergency medical services before recently getting a corporate job. I guess I'll share a bit of my own input.

In the past, I saw someone who blew half their head off with a shotgun. I could see skull fragments on the floor. The apartment was painted with blood and brain matter. However, they still had a pulse and even a detectable blood pressure (very low but definitely still detectable) when we got there. The patient flatlined in the ambulance and ultimately didn't survive. However, seeing that their death wasn't instant made my imagination run wild about whether they felt pain during their last moments. I'm not going to guilt trip anyone by saying something like "first responders would not want to find you like that because it's gruesome." That's the job we signed up for and we know that we're going to see gruesome things sometimes. All I'm going to say is that not every suicidal person is ok with being found in a bloody mess with like half their head missing. If you're ok with that, that's your prerogative, but it's wrong for you to judge people for choosing methods that don't mangle them to the point of requiring a closed casket funeral.

I myself was banned from buying guns because I was involuntarily committed to the psych ward. I think the risk of catching a charge is unacceptably high considering how hard I've worked to get to where I am with my career, so buying a gun illegally is not something I'm willing to consider. You're right that maybe I just don't want to die enough. I won't deny that because I'm not even actively suicidal at the moment. However, you don't get to ask me why I'm still here despite not being actively suicidal. I guess the gist of my post is that it's important to respect what people want for themselves. A significant number of users here want to die but not all of them do. Out of the ones who do want to die, most have their own rationale for their chosen method and it's not your place to debate with them on whether their rationale is right or wrong. Deciding whether to continue living or to end your life is literally the most personal decision someone can make for themselves. As a forum we're pro choice, meaning that we believe that people should have the freedom to choose what they want to do with their lives, as long as they have the capacity to make an informed decision. Not everyone here would want to use firearms as their method even if it was accessible. So be it. Sue me.