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Why is it like that?.
Heck even here, which is a forum where all of us are suicidial we need to resort to euphemisms such as "Catching The Bus" to refer to it.
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it's_all_a_game, Paloma, Yuffe and 9 others
Because suicide is mostly associated with people who are mentally unstable like yourself who cant make a rational decision. One day that stigma will be gone and tests will be done to ensure that the person wanting to die is of sound mind. Euthanasia will hopefully be a widespread option in the west in the near future. Its just a shame I wont be a part of it.
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it's_all_a_game, scales, About_to_Go and 6 others
People want to believe there's a reason for living. Besides, death is considered the worst thing that could befall someone (for some reason) in our society, so the idea that someone could actually desire it is mind-boggling for most. Even here, there are a bunch of threads about how we don't really want to die, we just want the pain to stop, whether or not that is true.
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Suicideisnirvana, Artear, Manaaja and 12 others
I think that a major part of that is that most people just don't want to admit or think that life is a horrible experience.
When someone does do it than it goes against the notion that life is good.
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Journeytoletgo, it's_all_a_game, Manaaja and 7 others
Regarding the old myths/religious ideas (not using the word myth in a pejorative way here) i think it has to do with the way humans organized themselves in ancient times.Basically it was a lot of small communities,so one person's suicide really made a lot of difference back then.It could disrupt the whole society,so it was made into a sin.Unlike now when individuals's lives can easily be forgotten/replaced.
Because suicide is mostly associated with people who are mentally unstable like yourself who cant make a rational decision. One day that stigma will be gone and tests will be done to ensure that the person wanting to die is of sound mind. Euthanasia will hopefully be a widespread option in the west in the near future. Its just a shame I wont be a part of it.
Because it's always easy to talk when it's about someone else's suffering. No one understands but the individual who experiences it. Society likes to trap people by indoctrinating us into believing that our life matters. How else are they going to have the next generation of wage slaves and breed the next batch? We are constantly being indoctrinated with life affirming ideologies throughout our lives and we never noticed or atleast some of us. It starts with parents, then school, then society at large. It's all a collective bargaining process that tries to instill a hive mind, kinda like the Borg from Star Trek. It's all a big lie to keep us trapped and when people hear that there's a way out from all this miserable futility with no more problems, they are taken back by even thinking about it cause they wouldn't know what to do with that knowledge. It never occurs to lifers that society is what breeds all this unnecessary insanity and suicidal happenings.
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it's_all_a_game, Failed, TAW122 and 12 others
I've said it before but it's because governments and corporations have vested interest in keeping you alive. They control the culture more than you'd think.
If suicide somehow, in some weird twisted way, made corporations and governments more money --> You'd be free to end your life. (peacefully that is)
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it's_all_a_game, lv-gras, About_to_Go and 6 others
Social stigma. Our upbringing and the ingrained messages hammered home by parents, religion, laws. Authority figures in general. They assume everyone should comply. Just my take, I'm an old punk at heart
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it's_all_a_game, lv-gras, About_to_Go and 2 others
People think of themselves as rational and sophisticated but they're really not. At the end of the day we're just animals. Slaves to the will to live, hostages held captive by survival instinct. Organic mashines who only have one goal only and that's survival. Any mashines that deviate from that goal are considered defective, in need of reprogramming. That's just the way it is sadly.
People are afraid of the unknown, and suicide is something scary to them, so they stay huddled up in life and refuse to explore a possible solution that could end the misery of many who are looking for a way to end it.
It's unfortunate what fear does to human beings.
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lv-gras, About_to_Go, Daystavro and 5 others
If people wouldn't take it as a taboo maybe I'd be better today. But no one listens to me and no one will. And if they do, they disappear. The person I like stopped talking to me when I told them I suffer from severe depression (didn't even mention the suicide and boom, they vanished); when they are the one that asked in the first place.
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lv-gras, About_to_Go, RaphtaliaTwoAnimals and 1 other person
If people wouldn't take it as a taboo maybe I'd be better today. But no one listens to me and no one will. And if they do, they disappear. The person I like stopped talking to me when I told them I suffer from severe depression (didn't even mention the suicide and boom, they vanished); when they are the one that asked in the first place.
I find especially when a suicidal person is brought to the attention of mental health workers they are almost more worried about covering their own backs, trying to persuade the person life is worth living not for themselves but so they dont have to sit at an inquest and defend their actions.
In society, suicide makes people almost question their own morbidity. The choice of someone to end their own lives just doesnt sit with society because all we are taught is that life is worth living no matter how hard it gets. The 'some people have it worse than you' is almost a fallback. Yes some people have it worse than i do but maybe ive had more than i can bare, im not them and they arnt me. I want to be unplugged from the world there is nothing wrong with that.
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it's_all_a_game, TAW122, Manaaja and 7 others
I find especially when a suicidal person is brought to the attention of mental health workers they are almost more worried about covering their own backs, trying to persuade the person life is worth living not for themselves but so they dont have to sit at an inquest and defend their actions.
In society, suicide makes people almost question their own morbidity. The choice of someone to end their own lives just doesnt sit with society because all we are taught is that life is worth living no matter how hard it gets. The 'some people have it worse than you' is almost a fallback. Yes some people have it worse than i do but maybe ive had more than i can bare, im not them and they arnt me. I want to be unplugged from the world there is nothing wrong with that.
So true. Saying you can't be sad because other people have it worse than you is as stupid as saying you can't be happy because other people have it better than you.
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it's_all_a_game, Failed, invisiblycrippled and 8 others
Human beings are hardwired to survive. It's very evident from the survival instinct that's messed up so many suicide attempts. The fact that we all die eventually is something that a large majority of people have a great deal of trouble facing up to. Accidents and terminal illness can be swept into the category of "It will never happen to me".
As a species, we cling to life and the fact that some of us actively choose to end our lives rather than have it taken from us goes against a very basic inbuilt mechanism in a lot of people. It scares them as not only do they have to think about the fact that life really can be so unbearable, but it also reminds them of their own mortality and that eventually it will come for them too.
Because people are selfish. A suicide affects the people around those who died and no one wants to suffer even if it means freedom from suffering do the afflicted.
Another reason is that many people associate suicide with teenagers going through a hard time, teenagers who have many possibilities to improve their life. There are other reasons too...
In truth, it makes sense, suicide shouldn't be the first answer, it should be an option though.
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Lifeisatrap, TAW122, lv-gras and 3 others
Because humans have had an intense fear of death ever since we became intelligent enough to be aware of our own mortality. It's in the foundations of our society. By rejecting this fear and embracing mortality we identify ourselves as outliers in a fundamental way. And like most primates, humans have never really treated those on the outside of the tribe with much kindness.
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Lifeisatrap, lv-gras, Manaaja and 2 others
Why is it like that?.
Heck even here, which is a forum where all of us are suicidial we need to resort to euphemisms such as "Catching The Bus" to refer to it.
People here don't need to call suicide "catching the bus". It's weird to me that people are using this phrase, like you couldn't say you want to kill yourself..
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Lifeisatrap, About_to_Go, RaphtaliaTwoAnimals and 1 other person
Why is it like that?.
Heck even here, which is a forum where all of us are suicidial we need to resort to euphemisms such as "Catching The Bus" to refer to it.
It goes against this popular notion that we are special Devine beings. Ie first it was center of the universe, A God cares about all of us etc. economic reasons, control, hero complex etc
i think there are lots of reasons that society is so offended by suicide ... different reasons for different people, and certainly the reasons already mentioned in response to your original post apply to some portion of the population. i think a big reason for most "normal" or "weill-adjusted" people is that they cannot understand why anyone would ever choose to kill him/herself, and people fear and/or are repulsed by things they do not understand. anytime i have ever told someone like that about my plan (always without details, which i know would push them over the edge), the response is confusion -- often even anger -- exacerbated by a complete failure to entertain the possibility that this might be the right thing for me, and even the best thing for me and the people whose lives i infect. they just assume that i am completely fucked up and irrational (i think i am neither ... at least with regard to this matter), and they generally make no real effort to understand how any of this "works" or how someone can get to this place. it is so foreign to them as to be offensive and it is easiest for them to just dismiss it as objectively "wrong" and crazy.
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