Venting World is fucked up.

[DarknessWave]

This world is probably the craziest place I will ever be in. People just compete with each other to be the most popular and most successful which is stupid. They don't even care about how others are feeling anymore. They say not to judge people but all they do is judge. Let's just say this world is starting to get way too crazy.

 

[DivineSpark]

It is, especially in poor countries...I am blessed to live in good country. Our healthcare is affordable and top notch.

 

[Jdieiejdjaow]

Dr. Ramani Durvasula (based in the USA) said narcissism is the number one problem in the world right night (when it comes to mental health). And she said this a few good years back. People become more narcissistic because of being squeezed. Technology and automation are driving it. More people end up in jobs that are not satisfactory and they see billionaires as role models which they try to emulate. Less empathy in the world as a result. A shrinking middle class.

It is, especially in poor countries...I am blessed to live in good country. Our healthcare is affordable and top notch.

I'm not sure poor countries are as affected. They do struggle, though the sense of community is better there than in the richer world where individualism and isolation is rampant.

 

[DivineSpark]

Dr. Ramani Durvasula (based in the USA) said narcissism is the number one problem in the world right night (when it comes to mental health). And she said this a few good years back. People become more narcissistic because of being squeezed. Technology and automation are driving it. More people end up in jobs that are not satisfactory and they see billionaires as role models which they try to emulate. Less empathy in the world as a result. A shrinking middle class.

I'm not sure poor countries are as affected. They do struggle, though the sense of community is better there than in the richer world where individualism and isolation is rampant.

Probably, but I wouldnt able to survive in country without proper mental healthcare.

 

[Jdieiejdjaow]

Probably, but I wouldnt able to survive in country without proper mental healthcare.

If you have basic needs secured and are able to afford competent mental healthcare then yes, you're correct.

 

[Hotsackage]

Yes when you have elon musk dictating the classification of having a mental illness, you know you're screwed

 

[DivineSpark]

If you have basic needs secured and are able to afford competent mental healthcare then yes, you're correct.

I feel like a loser, living on taxpayers money. Government pretty much gives me everything, housing, food, meds and such.

 

[Jdieiejdjaow]

I feel like a loser, living on taxpayers money. Government pretty much gives me everything, housing, food, meds and such.

I also have deep shame for receiving disability allowance sometimes. But I also remind myself that it's a disability and doesn't say anything about me. Just like nobody would shame you for having a broken leg. We have to fight for our rights and remind people that mental health is at least as equal as physical health.

I wish I'd have housing. This is the one thing that makes me suicidal. The daily abuse I have to put up with coming from my bully s*x offender roommate.

Are you able to participate in the community to give back? Perhaps you'd feel better if you'd contribute back. Can give a sense of accomplishment.

 

[DivineSpark]

I also have deep shame for receiving disability allowance sometimes. But I also remind myself that it's a disability and doesn't say anything about me. Just like nobody would shame you for having a broken leg. We have to fight for our rights and remind people that mental health is at least as equal as physical health.

I wish I'd have housing. This is the one thing that makes me suicidal. The daily abuse I have to put up with coming from my bully s*x offender roommate.

Are you able to participate in the community to give back? Perhaps you'd feel better if you'd contribute back. Can give a sense of accomplishment.

I used to live in place called "palvelukoti" in my language for four years. It is pretty much community for those who struggle with mental health or other disabilities. I had my own room and such. We were also given food and meds. Right now I live on my own, my own apartment but I meet my nurses every second week. I used to take part of work therapy, cleaning and such.

 

[Michelstaedter]

At one point, I thought my country, city, or environment was the problem. Later, I realized that people, in general, society all over the world is the problem.
I'm from Mexico, and here people get used to it. They're often told in common parlance that we're "agachones," meaning that we accept what happens to us without question, whether out of hopelessness, habit, or simply because some people are a kind of masochist (suffering as a virtue).
I can't say I'm going to take CTB because my country is horrible, because my parents are bad, my family doesn't care about me, or because I'm unhappy. I take CTB because, for me, the world isn't fit for people like me, and I'm not fit for it either. Vulgarity, narcissism, indifference, and many other things are part of everyday life, so in a way, it doesn't matter if I die, but living in pain for 5, 10, 20, or 40 more years with this shit is unbearable.

 

[Jdieiejdjaow]

I used to live in place called "palvelukoti" in my language for four years. It is pretty much community for those who struggle with mental health or other disabilities. I had my own room and such. We were also given food and meds. Right now I live on my own, my own apartment but I meet my nurses every second week. I used to take part of work therapy, cleaning and such.

If I'm not mistaken, that's Finland.

You folks did a great job tackling homelessness.

What are your interests? What do you like? Would you be open to team up by starting small and seeing if you like being active? Could be in nature (you've a lot of forest; the most in the EU), community, climate (gardening) etc.

 

[DivineSpark]

If I'm not mistaken, that's Finland.

You folks did a great job tackling homelessness.

What are your interests? What do you like? Would you be open to team up by starting small and seeing if you like being active? Could be in nature (you've a lot of forest; the most in the EU), community, climate (gardening) etc.

Indeed. I am blessed to live in this country, it has given me so much. I have quite wide selection of hobbies. I have been going to the gym for year or so. Twice per week. I have gained some muscle mass which is positive thing lol My other hobbies include movies, music, books, manga, anime, video games, bowling, walking in nature, sauna, swimming etc but I cannot always enjoy my hobbies because I struggle with anxiety and anhedonia.

I live in small city of 50 000. Lots of forests and lakes. This is my view from my balcony.

 

[tiredoflife2]

Indeed. I am blessed to live in this country, it has given me so much. I have quite wide selection of hobbies. I have been going to the gym for year or so. Twice per week. I have gained some muscle mass which is positive thing lol My other hobbies include movies, music, books, manga, anime, video games, bowling, walking in nature, sauna, swimming etc but I cannot always enjoy my hobbies because I struggle with anxiety and anhedonia.

I live in small city of 50 000. Lots of forests and lakes. This is my view from my balcony.

Looks so lovely, Finland does sound like a nice place.

 

[Jdieiejdjaow]

Indeed. I am blessed to live in this country, it has given me so much. I have quite wide selection of hobbies. I have been going to the gym for year or so. Twice per week. I have gained some muscle mass which is positive thing lol My other hobbies include movies, music, books, manga, anime, video games, bowling, walking in nature, sauna, swimming etc but I cannot always enjoy my hobbies because I struggle with anxiety and anhedonia.

I live in small city of 50 000. Lots of forests and lakes. This is my view from my balcony.

Wow. Well done! And the view is stunning. Greenery has an uplift on our mood. Do you get to hear birds and such?

I'm glad you've many hobbies. Would you consider connecting with a group that shares one of these hobbies and build rapport? For example, a book club or movie club

Anxiety and anhedonia can suck the life out of us. Having a community that can check on us when we're low might make all the difference. I've extreme anxiety and I often just do things despite of it.

 

[DivineSpark]

Wow. Well done! And the view is stunning. Greenery has an uplift on our mood. Do you get to hear birds and such?

I'm glad you've many hobbies. Would you consider connecting with a group that shares one of these hobbies and build rapport? For example, a book club or movie club

Anxiety and anhedonia can suck the life out of us. Having a community that can check on us when we're low might make all the difference. I've extreme anxiety and I often just do things despite of it.

We experience all four seasons in here, so it wont get boring. Personally, I cannot wait for spring and summer. Snow melts, everything becomes alive, everything turns green and such. To be honest, I spend lots of times online. Although, our city offers free gym for mental health patients, it also includes sauna and indoor swimming pool (great way to relax after training) When it comes meeting people face to face, there is place called vilho where I can do that. Social life is quite important for me, so I dont isolate myself too much.

Wow. Well done! And the view is stunning. Greenery has an uplift on our mood. Do you get to hear birds and such?

I'm glad you've many hobbies. Would you consider connecting with a group that shares one of these hobbies and build rapport? For example, a book club or movie club

Anxiety and anhedonia can suck the life out of us. Having a community that can check on us when we're low might make all the difference. I've extreme anxiety and I often just do things despite of it.

Extreme anxiety sucks ass. It makes me restless as hell. I start breathing heavily, my pulse rate goes up. I start sweating. It also includes paranoia, I feel like someone is spying on me.

 

[notreallybored]

I'm from Mexico, and here people get used to it. They're often told in common parlance that we're "agachones," meaning that we accept what happens to us without question, whether out of hopelessness, habit, or simply because some people are a kind of masochist (suffering as a virtue).

ב''ה,
I don't want to make a bad situation shittier, but y'all are in the top 10 exporters of that culturally and 'the squeeze' as started out as everyone's Late Capitalism jokes got turned up to 11 in the past decade.

Really though, there's a strain of Catholicism that has doctrinal suffering, some other belief systems have some similar apocalypticism, Islam has that 'either wrestle G-d down like the Jews because this is stupid or die in a holy war because that's all you're here for and get to your virgins,' and Judaism is one of the rare ones that even believes the world could be made good and that's what to try for (except that definition of good may be 'quirky' to modern sensibilities).

Anyway, just salty but, I guess outside of NYC (and even NYC is a Chicago looking mess compared to what it was) nobody wants to live like NYC with a diversity of neighbors, it's all Chicago style 'who gets the entire neighborhood?' and that's bumming me out.


Anyway if I'm in this thread and we're all here to fake or real commiserate:

Anyone else feeling that awareness the best and brightest existed, while being stuck around people who couldn't set the clock on a VCR, except the best and brightest just went full "GamerGate" when it was time to get something going in life?

 

[Michelstaedter]

ב''ה,
I don't want to make a bad situation shittier, but y'all are in the top 10 exporters of that culturally and 'the squeeze' as started out as everyone's Late Capitalism jokes got turned up to 11 in the past decade.

Really though, there's a strain of Catholicism that has doctrinal suffering, some other belief systems have some similar apocalypticism, Islam has that 'either wrestle G-d down like the Jews because this is stupid or die in a holy war because that's all you're here for and get to your virgins,' and Judaism is one of the rare ones that even believes the world could be made good and that's what to try for (except that definition of good may be 'quirky' to modern sensibilities).

Anyway, just salty but, I guess outside of NYC (and even NYC is a Chicago looking mess compared to what it was) nobody wants to live like NYC with a diversity of neighbors, it's all Chicago style 'who gets the entire neighborhood?' and that's bumming me out.


Anyway if I'm in this thread and we're all here to fake or real commiserate:

Anyone else feeling that awareness the best and brightest existed, while being stuck around people who couldn't set the clock on a VCR, except the best and brightest just went full "GamerGate" when it was time to get something going in life?

I didn't quite understand your idea, but it's good that you're letting it all out. Even if someone insults me on this forum, I don't take it the wrong way. I'm suicidal, not a depressed person looking for words of comfort.
Regarding exporting, I don't understand. In general, I don't defend my culture, my country, or ideas related to religion or issues unrelated to my individualism. I long for nothingness, which, in theory, is where one goes when one dies, right? However, my ultimate idea—taking the CTB to go toward that nothingness—sometimes makes me somewhat nihilistic, and I don't care about anything, beyond my impulse to experience the CTB as if it were some kind of "scientific test to understand what death is like firsthand."
I'm sorry I don't understand what you meant, but all I can say is that there's a lot of shit in my country, and I've noticed that in others too, so it's normal for you to perceive that mine has exported that "bad culture" that you seem to be referring to Catholicism, although for me it's not just Catholicism, but making Mexicans believe that we are the best in the world and it's just a self-deception to make us forget what's truly important.

 

[J&L383]

This world is probably the craziest place I will ever be in. People just compete with each other to be the most popular and most successful which is stupid. They don't even care about how others are feeling anymore. They say not to judge people but all they do is judge. Let's just say this world is starting to get way too crazy.

I think ever since I was a child and this was half a century ago, it seems I realized the world was just a fucked up place. Perhaps now more I fucked up than ever.

 

[JamesMoonDerWater]

Dr. Ramani Durvasula (based in the USA) said narcissism is the number one problem in the world right night (when it comes to mental health). And she said this a few good years back. People become more narcissistic because of being squeezed. Technology and automation are driving it. More people end up in jobs that are not satisfactory and they see billionaires as role models which they try to emulate. Less empathy in the world as a result. A shrinking middle class.

I'm not sure poor countries are as affected. They do struggle, though the sense of community is better there than in the richer world where individualism and isolation is rampant.

I go as far as to say we struggle worse. Imagine loosing someone at the same time you cant even afford to take care of your teeth or having to work 10 hours a day to barely sustain yourself? The sense of comunity is non existent, everyone get this feeling about places such as LATAM, but it doesnt even makes sense. Why give food to your neighboors if you cant even feed yourself? LATAM in specific is really hard because the global north really just views us as this huge crop/farm, they dont need us to study or anything, they just want us to gather coffee in the field for food salaries. Thats how Brazil came to be the biggest coffee exporter meanwhile we import coffee as a final product. Isnt it weird that the biggest coffee exports sells coffee for X and buys coffee for X^2? Theres no Nestle factory here, yet they buy half of everything we make and sell it back. That goes for the whole LATAM, similar with Argentina and meat production. The final product of all this global north and global south relationship is that coffee has become a literal luxury in my country. The hospital i work in literally gifted like grams of coffee to the workers weeks ago. I worked on that event and managed to snatch some for me and my mom. The life in a poor country will always be harder, i dont say any of this in a rude or aggressive tone, or aim towards anyone, genuinenly! Its just that my life personally would be 10x easier if i didnt have to worry about so many financial struggles, violence and so on... Every problem the 1st world has the 3rd will have, harder and much worse. I mean gang problem in latam specifically is so bad you cant even take pictures with certain shirts or the "peace" sign cus they'll interpret it as a gang sign. They have killed people just for this, not even kidding...

 

[Jdieiejdjaow]

I go as far as to say we struggle worse. Imagine loosing someone at the same time you cant even afford to take care of your teeth or having to work 10 hours a day to barely sustain yourself? The sense of comunity is non existent, everyone get this feeling about places such as LATAM, but it doesnt even makes sense. Why give food to your neighboors if you cant even feed yourself? LATAM in specific is really hard because the global north really just views us as this huge crop/farm, they dont need us to study or anything, they just want us to gather coffee in the field for food salaries. Thats how Brazil came to be the biggest coffee exporter meanwhile we import coffee as a final product. Isnt it weird that the biggest coffee exports sells coffee for X and buys coffee for X^2? Theres no Nestle factory here, yet they buy half of everything we make and sell it back. That goes for the whole LATAM, similar with Argentina and meat production. The final product of all this global north and global south relationship is that coffee has become a literal luxury in my country. The hospital i work in literally gifted like grams of coffee to the workers weeks ago. I worked on that event and managed to snatch some for me and my mom. The life in a poor country will always be harder, i dont say any of this in a rude or aggressive tone, or aim towards anyone, genuinenly! Its just that my life personally would be 10x easier if i didnt have to worry about so many financial struggles, violence and so on... Every problem the 1st world has the 3rd will have, harder and much worse. I mean gang problem in latam specifically is so bad you cant even take pictures with certain shirts or the "peace" sign cus they'll interpret it as a gang sign. They have killed people just for this, not even kidding...

I hear you. Life can be tough when we are stuck in an endless cycle of just trying to survive. It is true that some aspects of living are easier in other countries, though it's also true that there are people, in these countries, whose pain is so high they want to transition.

All pain is equal, and at the same time some have it worse than others. Though, if we've learned something from complex trauma is that connection is one crucial piece of our needs and poor people survived horrific circumstances due to a strong connection between them. It's worse when you're just above poverty line, living with an abusive person in the same room and you can't resolve it because people in authority tell you "I need proof". All this compounded by what you see in the other people when you're outside the homeless shelter (not saying other people don't have struggles). Living in systems of oppression no matter where you're in the world sucks. At least you're not alone in countries such as Brazil and you still have community despite all the hardship (and maybe one day you get out: there are many Brazilians where I live: the homeless shelter staff where I'm staying are all from Brazil). Where I live, you're all alone and people will judge you and be discriminating if you tell them you've a disability and are homeless.

 

[JamesMoonDerWater]

I hear you. Life can be tough when we are stuck in an endless cycle of just trying to survive. It is true that some aspects of living are easier in other countries, though it's also true that there are people, in these countries, whose pain is so high they want to transition.

All pain is equal, and at the same time some have it worse than others. Though, if we've learned something from complex trauma is that connection is one crucial piece of our needs and poor people survived horrific circumstances due to a strong connection between them. It's worse when you're just above poverty line, living with an abusive person in the same room and you can't resolve it because people in authority tell you "I need proof". All this compounded by what you see in the other people when you're outside the homeless shelter (not saying other people don't have struggles). Living in systems of oppression no matter where you're in the world sucks. At least you're not alone in countries such as Brazil and you still have community despite all the hardship (and maybe one day you get out: there are many Brazilians where I live: the homeless shelter staff where I'm staying are all from Brazil). Where I live, you're all alone and people will judge you and be discriminating if you tell them you've a disability and are homeless.

the whole text was about how 1st world people get this wrong idea about latam being this huge community.. This is fake, lemme tell you, this is straight bs, i dont know where yall get this but this doesnt and never did exist. Just like i said, no one will feed their neighbours if you cant feed even yourself. Also, violence is one of the biggest problems in poor countries, idk how you can just fact check that and still think that the most violent countries get a "community"...

 

[Jdieiejdjaow]

the whole text was about how 1st world people get this wrong idea about latam being this huge community.. This is fake, lemme tell you, this is straight bs, i dont know where yall get this but this doesnt and never did exist. Just like i said, no one will feed their neighbours if you cant feed even yourself. Also, violence is one of the biggest problems in poor countries, idk how you can just fact check that and still think that the most violent countries get a "community"...

Both can be true. That you get a sense of community, while at the same time facing hardships. They don't exclude each other. Once you get in developed countries, that changes. It's much more isolated and individualistic.

 

[notreallybored]

I didn't quite understand your idea, but it's good that you're letting it all out. Even if someone insults me on this forum, I don't take it the wrong way. I'm suicidal, not a depressed person looking for words of comfort.
Regarding exporting, I don't understand. In general, I don't defend my culture, my country, or ideas related to religion or issues unrelated to my individualism. I long for nothingness, which, in theory, is where one goes when one dies, right? However, my ultimate idea—taking the CTB to go toward that nothingness—sometimes makes me somewhat nihilistic, and I don't care about anything, beyond my impulse to experience the CTB as if it were some kind of "scientific test to understand what death is like firsthand."
I'm sorry I don't understand what you meant, but all I can say is that there's a lot of shit in my country, and I've noticed that in others too, so it's normal for you to perceive that mine has exported that "bad culture" that you seem to be referring to Catholicism, although for me it's not just Catholicism, but making Mexicans believe that we are the best in the world and it's just a self-deception to make us forget what's truly important.

ב''ה,
Y'know, I don't really want to go into it or not edit this quote down to not clog the thread, but I've got a lot of fucked up 'actual religious experiences' clogging things up, and I'm in a part of USA that can bring out the worst in folks generally.

So there's so much everyone could be doing on both sides of the border to make things not shitty for both sides, but nobody's doing that, and a bunch of "Carlos Castaneda" shit keeps happening every time I try to be people-is-people about it.

I don't even know you and actually trying to commiserate about that pervasive attitude you're also complaining about and whatever hand of G-d kind of stuff keeps everyone from rising above it.

Anyway, if I'm going to try to be cheerful, y'all have so much cool 'solarpunk' shit tucked away in your neighborhood as much as USA does, but getting to on any of that without being anointed/certified by whatever powers that be are running those shows, "WTF" on either side of the border.

Looks like we maybe get 4 years of extra Russia-Ukraine reminiscent games over Gulf drilling instead of actual good shit, at least until oil stops being valuable, so "meh" on that as well. (Except that's just media games and business as usual.)

I could say more but it's fairly similar to if folks grumble at me as to why Occupy Wall Street didn't fix everything up here for my generation, so "pervasive attitudes" are a thing everywhere and not just for MX.