Cress
Arcanist
- Oct 15, 2023
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I was kind of curious where everyone's thoughts on mental health service reform is at. If anyone has any suggestions or criticisms feel free to vote and discuss What your ideas might be.
Just a brief history where we're at so far. The argument that mental health services are failing is based off the fact suicide is a leading cause of death for people under 35. Even more so for males 20 to 35 being a particularly affected demographic.
Common Treatment at the moment consists of offering you:
A therapist which essentially equates to someone that you can talk to for one hour a week.
A psychiatrist that you meet with for 20 to 30 minutes a few times a year and they prescribe you medication.
If either of the two above methods fail and you tell someone that you want to harm yourself. Anyone can file a petition to have police officers hunt you down and take you to the hospital where it will be decided if you should be admitted to a psych ward.
A lot of the time therapist and psychiatrist trigger this simply because they are scared of liability And losing their job.
If anyone's unaware psych words are a type of dormitory housing usually between 16 and 40 people. All of which have been deemed to be a danger to themselves by the powers that be. This really isn't considered a treatment facility although they might have some aspects of it. A psychiatrist that comes in once or twice a week to prescribe meds or they have a group for people to attend.
The average day is about five to seven days although I've stayed in a psych ward for an entire month before. They need to release you to a "safe place" With a so called "Safety plan". To be honest these are all just nice sounding words. The time I spent a month in a psych ward I asked them to Discharge me to my car because I was homeless they said my car wasn't a "safe place". Things went on like that for a month until they needed to get rid of me and rotate new patients in and they finally agreed to discharge me to my car.
The business of providing psychiatric beds in psych words as they call them is pretty large. They have a pretty standard model for how these facilities should be run. After you get admitted to one of these facilities they ask insurance or public aid How long they're going to pay to keep you in one of their psychiatric beds at their facility. After they no longer get money to keep you there they're very quick to cycle in the next patient.
These Psych wards Have literally created a business opportunity out of farming some of the most disadvantaged people. These places charge hundreds of dollars per day to shove you in a room with two to four other people and provide you with the bare minimum basic necessities. It depends on the facility of course and I've heard of places that charge $1500-$2000 per day. Although even charging someone $500 per day is insane.
If you're ever wondering why Mental health is absolutely broken and suicide rates are through the roof, These scumbags running psych wards are part of the issue. To be honest it's hard for me to talk about without getting angry they take advantage of the most desperate down on your luck people.
I know that there is some minority of people where you need to confine them Because they're so uncontrollable but there's no way that that should be the normal operating procedure. Tossing people into these facilities and using the strategy of "Culture shock" Surrounding them with other people who also want to die doesn't seem like a good long term strategy. At least if other patients provide free counseling to the other patients in the psych ward they don't have to pay for it and it saves the shareholders some money.
I have a radical idea Maybe instead of Throwing people in these psych wards with other people that have mental health struggles. When someone wants to end their life we surround them with a team of professionals? Professionals that actually want to solve and address any grievances that you're currently having in life and see if there's any way to expedite and fix things.
If they can't fix what issues you have going on in 6 months then they will provide you with a way to Exit out of this world and die. Six months gives a significant amount of time pressure for people to really address what issues you're having.
I know there's a fair share number of you that think 6 months is way too much time To wait for solutions but I think it's more on the aggressive side In terms of a time limit. You have to understand I'm trying to think of ways where the average person would be able to digest "Right to die" concepts a little bit easier. They're legitimately going to initially want Five years or even longer.
You of course can always argue about the duration of time being too long or too short and it's always open to interpretation. Anyway I hope I was able to condense things down to a digestible level and I'm interested to hear what anyone's thoughts are. Mental health treatment has been something that's caused me a tremendous amount of suffering over the course of my life And it seems evident to me at least that the system is in dire need of reform.
Particularly with stripping away the current model of profit incentives and I don't mean that there couldn't be any profit for businesses to help people I'm specifically talking about The way things are handled now. After insurance stops paying or they argue for a lesser amount, psychiatric hospitals quickly cycle in a new person waiting for a psychiatric bed.
Just a brief history where we're at so far. The argument that mental health services are failing is based off the fact suicide is a leading cause of death for people under 35. Even more so for males 20 to 35 being a particularly affected demographic.
Common Treatment at the moment consists of offering you:
A therapist which essentially equates to someone that you can talk to for one hour a week.
A psychiatrist that you meet with for 20 to 30 minutes a few times a year and they prescribe you medication.
If either of the two above methods fail and you tell someone that you want to harm yourself. Anyone can file a petition to have police officers hunt you down and take you to the hospital where it will be decided if you should be admitted to a psych ward.
A lot of the time therapist and psychiatrist trigger this simply because they are scared of liability And losing their job.
If anyone's unaware psych words are a type of dormitory housing usually between 16 and 40 people. All of which have been deemed to be a danger to themselves by the powers that be. This really isn't considered a treatment facility although they might have some aspects of it. A psychiatrist that comes in once or twice a week to prescribe meds or they have a group for people to attend.
The average day is about five to seven days although I've stayed in a psych ward for an entire month before. They need to release you to a "safe place" With a so called "Safety plan". To be honest these are all just nice sounding words. The time I spent a month in a psych ward I asked them to Discharge me to my car because I was homeless they said my car wasn't a "safe place". Things went on like that for a month until they needed to get rid of me and rotate new patients in and they finally agreed to discharge me to my car.
The business of providing psychiatric beds in psych words as they call them is pretty large. They have a pretty standard model for how these facilities should be run. After you get admitted to one of these facilities they ask insurance or public aid How long they're going to pay to keep you in one of their psychiatric beds at their facility. After they no longer get money to keep you there they're very quick to cycle in the next patient.
These Psych wards Have literally created a business opportunity out of farming some of the most disadvantaged people. These places charge hundreds of dollars per day to shove you in a room with two to four other people and provide you with the bare minimum basic necessities. It depends on the facility of course and I've heard of places that charge $1500-$2000 per day. Although even charging someone $500 per day is insane.
If you're ever wondering why Mental health is absolutely broken and suicide rates are through the roof, These scumbags running psych wards are part of the issue. To be honest it's hard for me to talk about without getting angry they take advantage of the most desperate down on your luck people.
I know that there is some minority of people where you need to confine them Because they're so uncontrollable but there's no way that that should be the normal operating procedure. Tossing people into these facilities and using the strategy of "Culture shock" Surrounding them with other people who also want to die doesn't seem like a good long term strategy. At least if other patients provide free counseling to the other patients in the psych ward they don't have to pay for it and it saves the shareholders some money.
I have a radical idea Maybe instead of Throwing people in these psych wards with other people that have mental health struggles. When someone wants to end their life we surround them with a team of professionals? Professionals that actually want to solve and address any grievances that you're currently having in life and see if there's any way to expedite and fix things.
If they can't fix what issues you have going on in 6 months then they will provide you with a way to Exit out of this world and die. Six months gives a significant amount of time pressure for people to really address what issues you're having.
I know there's a fair share number of you that think 6 months is way too much time To wait for solutions but I think it's more on the aggressive side In terms of a time limit. You have to understand I'm trying to think of ways where the average person would be able to digest "Right to die" concepts a little bit easier. They're legitimately going to initially want Five years or even longer.
You of course can always argue about the duration of time being too long or too short and it's always open to interpretation. Anyway I hope I was able to condense things down to a digestible level and I'm interested to hear what anyone's thoughts are. Mental health treatment has been something that's caused me a tremendous amount of suffering over the course of my life And it seems evident to me at least that the system is in dire need of reform.
Particularly with stripping away the current model of profit incentives and I don't mean that there couldn't be any profit for businesses to help people I'm specifically talking about The way things are handled now. After insurance stops paying or they argue for a lesser amount, psychiatric hospitals quickly cycle in a new person waiting for a psychiatric bed.
. It could be any number of subjects and it makes progress ridiculously slow. Love living in a world where people's rights are violated bc someone is having a little power trip 
. This world is hideous. If someone disagrees, everyone else ignores them or denies their credibility like tf. Where is the civil conversation lmao
