Another example of BBC lying about users.

[ArteriesBindEveryon]

Many will know about the recent article released by the dynamic duo at the BBC.

They focused their energy on the partner thread and covered descriptions of how they believed the thread had caused harm.

But that wasn't the primary topic of this thread.

Within that article, they created a narrative to claim that a specific member had flown to the UK after 'meeting another member on the partner thread' and then '11 days later, the UK member passed away in their hotel room', and that the user who flew over 'claimed that he was sleeping.'

The journalists claimed that he flew over to the UK to meet his CTB (commit suicide) partner with the sole aim in "assisting" in a woman's suicide: THIS IS A LIE.

Those journalists obviously don't "know" shit. Nice use of inverted commas by the way, and you know full well you are not naming him because he would sue you into oblivion if you tried to.

What's worse is that the journalists have spoken to the member involved, and they know exactly what happened and how the experience left him broken and traumatized but, most importantly, that he was completely innocent of what they were claiming, so why were they trying to insert him into the narrative of predators on the Partner Thread? Could not find enough existing 'predators' to meet your word count?

Firstly, these members did not meet on the partner thread; they were both well-known chat members who became close and developed a romantic relationship through the summer of 2022, and he was trying to support her and help her to recover, as were multiple other users on the site.

They were talking since July, and her first entry on the partner thread was not until August. If he was her intended CTB partner, then why would she be posting on the partner thread when she already knew him?

The female member was living out of hostels while being refused every avenue of NHS help that she was trying to explore, so he flew over to put them both up in a hotel and attempted to support her himself in hopes that she could start a recovery process that way. In addition to this, she was mute so all of their dialogue was available for police to read through because they communicated through their devices.

Ten days into that visit, she snuck back to her hostel and retrieved her SN (self-harm substance) without his knowledge (he was messaging another user in a panic because she left the hotel and was not responding to his messages and he did not know where she'd gone) and CTB while he was sleeping the next morning. He woke upon hearing her collapse, and called 999 while endeavoring to save her.

On top of that, he was investigated because he was in the room, and the only part that the BBC got right was that he was cleared of all wrongdoing.

It's beyond disgusting that these journalists would use such a traumatizing event to attempt to frame him as some sort of predator who flew over to help her die.

The BBC should be ashamed of themselves for using their platform in such a corrupt way just because their journalist was so emotionally invested in forcing his own narrative. The truth of the facts should be enough to argue your point, and your conduct is no better than fixers who are just using you as a mouthpiece now.

You treat members who speak to you this way and then wonder why other users refuse to talk to you. You have already decided what kind of people members on the forum are, and apparently, if they're not crying on camera, then their voices don't matter.

If you really think it's okay to take the experience of a broken, grieving, and traumatized member and selectively quote his testimony given to you in order to misleadingly paint him as a predator, then you can stick your article up your BBC Verify.

The BBC can get away with stuff like this because we're seen as "irrational". I really wish we could spread the truth beyond this forum. Granted, I don't think the article had a super wide-reaching influence, but it'll still show up when people research this forum.

 

[Dot]

The BBC can get away with stuff like this because we're seen as "irrational". I really wish we could spread the truth beyond this forum. Granted, I don't think the article had a super wide-reaching influence, but it'll still show up when people research this forum.

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[opheliaoveragain]

It's all framing. The Daily Mail once wrote "Laws victims have included teenagers, as well as youngsters in their 20s and 30s".

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But if you look at the definition of these words, you'll realize they're contradictory.

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A youngster refers to a teenger and can literally not be an adult. So even when they were referring to adults in their 20s and 30s, they tried to downplay and infantilize them as kids. These are the kind of word plays they use to make you look bad. Just tiny little tweaks with words here and there and totally changes the framing. All of a sudden, Law didn't primarily supply adults with SN anymore, now he supplied mostly children. Smart, isn't it?

Wow, holy shit this is such a CRINGE writing tactic and it's not even slick. THEY TRIED.

 

[enduringwinter]

My favourite journalist quitted the BBC ages ago when she found out she was getting paid a fraction of her male coworkers' salaries and no one addressed her concerns or even took her side. She was head of a whole column and did incredible work, articles that took over 10 years of extensive work to write. I was shocked to find out how little she was paid. Absolutely rotten company.

 

[illicit]

it's pretty crazy how easy it is for the BBC / any other media outlet to brainwash people.

 

[Life_and_Death]

it's pretty crazy how easy it is for the BBC / any other media outlet to brainwash people.

people in general. (not 100% certain since im not one of those people but) im pretty sure you can find not just the media but individuals as well. youtube channels, cults, blogs. anyone can get anyone to believe anything

 

[mellie5]

oh lol yk one can say a lot of things without breaking the laws of slander and staying factually correct.

The same exact story can be told as:

we know of two cases where well-meaning, respectable men, were lured by women and two even flew to the UK from the US to help them, risking their life and limb by flying, although they were non-professionals.

In one case, a very young adult flew from Minnesota, apparently to help a 21-year-old woman in "distress".

A member of each family (a cousin twice-removed or the wife of a cousin count) said yk don't say anything about this, so we are complying.

After spending 11 days in a lavish hotel room, the woman surreptisiously took a poison and died.

The shocked man, who after waking up found the body, immediately called the emergency services.

We would like to stress here that we are not saying the man slept in the same room as her when she took the poison. In fact we apologise for the tautology, as the man would not have realised she died when he was asleep. It is unlikely that people in general, while sleeping, realise what others are doing but we digress.

The man was asked by the police if he could help in ascertaining the cause of death. He did what was possible. The police thanked him for his cooperation and the distraught man returned to the US.

Let the well-intentioned take heed.

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so yk the room can be called lavish, squalid, simple, "it's my opinion" - adjectives, adverbs, this is what they are here for :-D

And "very young adult" to a 100-year-old is one of those sporty 80-year-olds who can't even remember the Blitz.

 

[whywere]

Like I always say, "easy to judge, hard to understand". I, like so many others, have had so many people harshly judge me when they find out that I have mental health issues.

Same with the BBC and in fact ALL MEDIA, as far as to sell and/or get a person's eyeballs on the article so they can go back to the advertisers and charge more money since they have so many folks looking and reading their "journalism".

It will always sadden me in the fact that so much energy, money and the like are expended in the production and delivery of garbage that does no one any good, why not instead use those resources in helping everyone out.

Greed and egotistical aspects of humans are ss negative in the short and long run, as far as someone who puts out a piece, like on the BBC, makes them look so profoundly smart and in touch with humans when in fact it is quite the opposite.

Maybe it is because I am 68 or whatever, but I could care less what anyone thinks of me, and I will be damned if an organization like the BBC or here in the U.S. the media, can put it where the sun does not shine.

This site is NOT about suicide, it is about the person and their right to feel, think, and be themselves without some dumb jerk trying to shove their beliefs and the like on us.

Even if this site would not exist or it was taken down, it would NOT ever lessen suicide and in fact suicide might go up since there would not be a resource for a person to feel like their voice is heard and that they are loved for them being them.

We are family here. no matter where a person is in their life and no one like then BBC or anything of that nature will ever come between us as a global family, never.

Walter

 

[mellie5]

tsk tsk these young adults with only 68 years on their shoulders writing long texts but that's because they never had coupons and rations.

Before that thing in Sarajevo destroyed Europe we were - ok I admit I am not 120 years old :-)

yk if people judge you negatively bcs of mental problems, you can always be technical and say "everyone had or has mental problems", because even worrying about an exam will have made them suffer from anxiety. And if someone never worried about anything - a lack of emotions is a hint of psychopathy and it's called flat affect.

And if they say I never needed psychotherapy tell them so you are saying you are perfect and have no subconscious? What makes you think so? just reflect it back :-D

Walter Matthau was a nice actor. Hopscotch is a nice film you could watch :-)

 

[mrpeter]

how old was the man mentioned it would be even funnier if the guy was around the same age as the girl he met up with
Also lets assume the man did help that woman commit suicide, if they both met up its probable that both of them tried to help each other commit suicide, so both are guilty.

 

[Dot]

Same with the BBC and in fact ALL MEDIA, as far as to sell and/or get a person's eyeballs on the article so they can go back to the advertisers and charge more money since they have so many folks looking and reading their "journalism".

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[motoko_s9]

Really despicable by the BBC.

I'm 90% sure they are also breaking the online safety act by intentionally giving out false information to cause offence. Which would be sweet irony.

That's Section 179 of the Online Safety Act referring to the offence of false communications.

But in Section 180, it says:

180 Exemptions from offence under section 179
(1) A recognised news publisher cannot commit an offence under section 179.

In the definition of a "recognised news publisher," in a line on its own, the BBC is mentioned.:

56 "Recognised news publisher"
(1) In this Part, "recognised news publisher" means any of the following entities—
(a) the British Broadcasting Corporation,

Why would a news publisher need protection from prosecution for doing the following?

179 False communications offence
(1) A person commits an offence if—

(a) the person sends a message (see section 182),
(b) the message conveys information that the person knows to be false,
(c) at the time of sending it, the person intended the message, or the information
in it, to cause non-trivial psychological or physical harm to a likely audience,
and
(d) the person has no reasonable excuse for sending the message.

 

[needthebus]

Many will know about the recent article released by the dynamic duo at the BBC.

They focused their energy on the partner thread and covered descriptions of how they believed the thread had caused harm.

But that wasn't the primary topic of this thread.

Within that article, they created a narrative to claim that a specific member had flown to the UK after 'meeting another member on the partner thread' and then '11 days later, the UK member passed away in their hotel room', and that the user who flew over 'claimed that he was sleeping.'

The journalists claimed that he flew over to the UK to meet his CTB (commit suicide) partner with the sole aim in "assisting" in a woman's suicide: THIS IS A LIE.

Those journalists obviously don't "know" shit. Nice use of inverted commas by the way, and you know full well you are not naming him because he would sue you into oblivion if you tried to.

What's worse is that the journalists have spoken to the member involved, and they know exactly what happened and how the experience left him broken and traumatized but, most importantly, that he was completely innocent of what they were claiming, so why were they trying to insert him into the narrative of predators on the Partner Thread? Could not find enough existing 'predators' to meet your word count?

Firstly, these members did not meet on the partner thread; they were both well-known chat members who became close and developed a romantic relationship through the summer of 2022, and he was trying to support her and help her to recover, as were multiple other users on the site.

They were talking since July, and her first entry on the partner thread was not until August. If he was her intended CTB partner, then why would she be posting on the partner thread when she already knew him?

The female member was living out of hostels while being refused every avenue of NHS help that she was trying to explore, so he flew over to put them both up in a hotel and attempted to support her himself in hopes that she could start a recovery process that way. In addition to this, she was mute so all of their dialogue was available for police to read through because they communicated through their devices.

Ten days into that visit, she snuck back to her hostel and retrieved her SN (self-harm substance) without his knowledge (he was messaging another user in a panic because she left the hotel and was not responding to his messages and he did not know where she'd gone) and CTB while he was sleeping the next morning. He woke upon hearing her collapse, and called 999 while endeavoring to save her.

On top of that, he was investigated because he was in the room, and the only part that the BBC got right was that he was cleared of all wrongdoing.

It's beyond disgusting that these journalists would use such a traumatizing event to attempt to frame him as some sort of predator who flew over to help her die.

The BBC should be ashamed of themselves for using their platform in such a corrupt way just because their journalist was so emotionally invested in forcing his own narrative. The truth of the facts should be enough to argue your point, and your conduct is no better than fixers who are just using you as a mouthpiece now.

You treat members who speak to you this way and then wonder why other users refuse to talk to you. You have already decided what kind of people members on the forum are, and apparently, if they're not crying on camera, then their voices don't matter.

If you really think it's okay to take the experience of a broken, grieving, and traumatized member and selectively quote his testimony given to you in order to misleadingly paint him as a predator, then you can stick your article up your BBC Verify.

any sort of "suicide is bad, they need therapy and drugs and government approved treatment" articles do well with the public

so of course they will write articles that are superficial and hollow because the public will like them

people prefer the easy fantasy lie to the hard truth: look at how many people believe in muhummad and santa claus and jesus and virgin births

the easy lie is our suffering is bearable if only we get the right therapist and right prozac and right religion and if only we had followed the benevolent government suggestions and not found this evil malevolent site we'd be okay

as though we all went "oh no i am having a bad day, things are a tad annoying, ill search for methods to die"

people are morons who want fairy tales and journalists need clickbait

let this be a lesson: never talk with journalists

 

[allmessedup]

I really don't understand why they have such an axe to grind about this site.
It's a site where depressed and desperate people go to talk about about wanting to leave this cruel world.
Why can't they just accept that some people aren't cut out for this world, and just let us be.
I've had an account here 5 or 6 months, and was a lurker long before I finally made an account. Never once have I seen someone encouraging someone to kill themselves or promoting suicide. Just people asking questions and people giving advice, and what not to do.
And it's a nice place to vent and feel like we aren't alone in feeling like this.
Idk why they just can't let us be

I wish I knew why they can't let us be. It stinks they have such a megaphone in this instance.

People like me exist making all this possible and we do it because we can. And there's not a single thing you can do to prevent it.

Thank you.

 

[Seered Doom]

The friends I made in this place and another server that supports sites like this thinks the moral grandstanding the BBC and others are taking is utter nonsense

 

[tinyhotot]

The things these journalists will do for clicks is diabolical... i wish there was a way to C&D them...but i dont think its possible to C&D someone from a public forum. What a bunch of assholes...

 

[mellie5]

well suicide is actually bad yk, it's not a yay dancing in the marigolds thing

and some people need medicine and psychotherapy to feel better, yes. If one breaks a leg and there is a piece of bone sticking out, one is not expected to fix it oneself. Same with a mind needing "repairs". What if the depression and the consequent will to exit are caused by hypothyroidism and will be fixed by a pill in about three days?

and the treatments must be approved, yes.

Proof: "therapists bad". Yes, because calling oneself "therapist" is unregulated. So people go to "therapy" and it's not an evidence-based thing in which the therapist had to study a few years and pass an exam that ensures at least a minimum standard.

Proof second: "regulating drugs bad". Yes just buy the pill of wonderplant, it "helps with" cancer and dandruff and stomach ache. Deregulate drugs, test nothing against placebo or preexisting treatment.

@ learned colleague above quoting the OSA by which I mean online safety act, not the official secrets act :-D

you selectively quoted the bits that support your anti-BBC stance. Be fair and note that the definition of "recognised news publisher" in the OSA includes many other recognised news publishers.

Note too that a person, i.e. a human being committing an offence is not a corporation committing it. A journalist who publishes something on purpose to cause harm is committing an offence. And mind you, causing actual certifiable direct harm with a causal link is a completely different crime.

Your OSA quotes mix natural persons i.e. human beings committing offences with corporations, i.e. fictional persons committing offences.

BBC journalists cater to the public that likes the BBC. ITV to those that watch that wild channel :-D also yk BBC - BBC1 is very different from BBC3.

Yes "my license fee pays for rubbish" - however, the license fee also pays for Radio 4

I am sure some would say that Radio 4 is rubbish.

The journalists were ofc not impartial or objective and suited the article to their narrative and public.

Idk the context of the passage in the OP. They are ofc drawing attention to this forum and - were they really wanting to get rid of it - would not have ever written anything remotely connected to it.

Curiously enough, nothing about usenet's ash lol.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

how old was the man mentioned

I'm also curious about this.

 

[pain6batch9]

Radio 4 has fallen off a bit in recent years. I do catch myself listening to the shipping forecast though.

 

[Seered Doom]

Hell, most news, I can't even watch anymore because it's all sensationalised or stuff that would trigger a PTSD attack. Censure Authoritarianism is very much a thing here in the US and I'm sad seeing it migrate its way to the UK

 

[shrobae]

appalled at the way they can make something out of context. wait, not even out of context. im appalled at the way they can manipulate the information they give out to fuel their agenda. no names or anything either. huh.

 

[BlackEyedDog]

The BBC is very anti-Israel and therefore very anti-Bible. From what I understand England (and perhaps all of the UK) is attacking free speech of all types.

Bible - NKJV:

Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness;
Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Jeremiah 31:

A New Covenant

31 "Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more."

35 Thus says the Lord,
Who gives the sun for a light by day,
The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night,
Who disturbs the sea,
And its waves roar
(The Lord of hosts is His name):

36 "If those ordinances depart
From before Me, says the Lord,
Then the seed of Israel shall also cease
From being a nation before Me forever."

37 Thus says the Lord:
"If heaven above can be measured,
And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath,
I will also cast off all the seed of Israel
For all that they have done, says the Lord.

The BBC has become a horrible fake news channel! And the England is already getting ready for the coming kingdom of the antichrist.

This thread is about the media covering this site, not proselytizing and bible verses and politics. Many of us are offended by the ethnic cleanding committed on the Palestinian people. I mean children are being bombed and starved. How easily people use religion to dehumanize human life in the name of some god or other.

 

[J'sSister]

This thread is about the media covering this site, not proselytizing and bible verses and politics. Many of us are offended by the ethnic cleanding committed on the Palestinian people. I mean children are being bombed and starved. How easily people use religion to dehumanize human life in the name of some god or other.

I recommend Amir Tsarfati's (Behold Israel) Telegram Channel (the one with over 500,000 subscribers, other channels in his name are fakes) for honest news about Palestine.

 

[BlackEyedDog]

I recommend Amir Tsarfati's (Behold Israel) Telegram Channel (the one with over 500,000 subscribers, other channels in his name are fakes) for honest news about Palestine.

wow, but then again you're also telling us about the antichrist so u will find what fits and call it true. the world has seen the horrors committed in gaza even if u choose to blind yourself.

 

[pain6batch9]

As usual everything degenerates into religious bullshit.

 

[nottinghams]

As usual everything degenerates into religious bullshit.

the Palestinian people and the Israeli people are two peoples caught between the terrorist campaigns of two far-right, fascist, religious extremist governments. done. no more said.

 

[Cute_&_Loving]

Poor girl…. Poor guy….. this is just heartbreaking…..

 

[athiestjoe]

Wish I could say I am surprised but the media pushing one sided lies, partial truth or anything to get some sort of sensationalized reaction, more views, more click is not new. It is very unfortunate of course but not surprising at all.

 

[OnlyOneSolution]

This site is NOT about suicide, it is about the person and their right to feel, think, and be themselves without some dumb jerk trying to shove their beliefs and the like on us.

Even if this site would not exist or it was taken down, it would NOT ever lessen suicide and in fact suicide might go up since there would not be a resource for a person to feel like their voice is heard and that they are loved for them being them.

We are family here. no matter where a person is in their life and no one like then BBC or anything of that nature will ever come between us as a global family, never.

Walter

All that I have read on this site validates your words. If 40000 people talk about a struggle with CTB thoughts, 40 million hide the struggle because they don't want to classified.

We are not odd. We are honest.

 

[OnlyOneSolution]

This site is NOT about suicide, it is about the person and their right to feel, think, and be themselves without some dumb jerk trying to shove their beliefs and the like on us.

Even if this site would not exist or it was taken down, it would NOT ever lessen suicide and in fact suicide might go up since there would not be a resource for a person to feel like their voice is heard and that they are loved for them being them.

We are family here. no matter where a person is in their life and no one like then BBC or anything of that nature will ever come between us as a global family, never.

Walter

All that I have read on this site validates your words. If 40000 people talk about a struggle with CTB thoughts, 40 million hide the struggle because they don't want to be classified.

We are not odd. We are honest.