NSFW Anyone who is “prolife” please read this post .

[Buddha.chris]

It it clear that anyone who is "pro-life" only wants to strike fear and there campaigns are falling on deaf ears . So they will resort to any means to deflect the conversation elsewhere Instead of taking responsibility for bad parenting and huge egos. I hate my mother for the suffering I faced growing up and her lack of parenting but mainly for bringing me into this nasty ,evil world . I can't understand anyone who will try to deflect their sons or daughters death without taking some soft or responsibility on their part, and not owning up to their mishaps . Probably because they're looking for a deflection so they don't have to think about not being there for their sons or daughters when they really needed them the most that is truly the saddest part about it . Message to the prolife community on Twitter leave us alone we've done nothing to harm anyone but speak our truth and express how we are suffering everyday we don't deserve to be attacked .

 

[Pluto]

This is true, though unfortunately I don't see them listening.

From my viewpoint, it looks like they learned from a young age to cope with difficult situations by repressing their emotions and blaming other people. I have known people like that; somehow, they are never wrong. It is an immature way to live, but it is also very hard to un-learn dysfunctional patterns dating from childhood. Even with the most extreme wake-up call.

Obviously, this egocentric attitude of attack and defense is not ideal when tasked with raising a child in an emotionally healthy environment, and may have contributed to the tragic outcome. It becomes even more of a spectacle when on a public crusade against an internet forum.

Even so, sometimes people cling to their dysfunction to their dying breath; I know my own mother was/is one of them; she also happened to have quite a mechanical personality and a lack of maternal instincts. I can totally see her clinging to her religious BS and her self-righteousness even after my death.

 

[SilentSadness]

I don't think they will listen sadly, they are not interested in what we have to say.

 

[howl pendragon]

I don't think they will listen sadly, they are not interested in what we have to say.

This is true, though unfortunately I don't see them listening.

I agree. But if someone is trying to speak out about our shitty human society, one day it can make a difference. Not today, yes. Also not tomorrow. But maybe later. So, why not?

I value your attempt, @Buddha.chris , even if pro-life don't listen.

 

[FuneralCry]

Pro-lifers are just people who lack compassion and are blinded by their delusional beliefs. The reality is that no matter what these people think nobody is obligated to delay their inevitable fate, suicide is a human right and it's inhumane to wish to make people prisoners to this existence until they die anyway. Maybe those people might think differently when they end up being tortured by health problems in the future, old age sounds like hell to me and that's all where humans are headed for.

So it's completely insane to me wanting to remove the option of a peaceful exit when anybody can end up experiencing extreme torture at any moment, humans deserve a way to peacefully end all the suffering, and if some people are delusional enough to want to stay in this harmful world then that is fine for them but they shouldn't have any right to force their beliefs onto other people who are unable to experience existence in the same way.

 

[leavingsoon99]

I experienced a similar situation with my mother. She was a self-righteous, religious hypocrite who only saw the faults of others. She never saw her own faults. While I still foster hatred towards her, I now understand that she couldn't have been any other way because she was raised by my grandmother. She fostered a very dysfunctional family model, along with my grandfather. And they learned that from the generation before. So, I can identify with you on that.

As far as life-warriors...

I think it's absurd that the human and the society that it has created seems to abhor anyone different within it. It punishes them for being victims of humanity's own insane and backwards social pressures. Yet, when one volunteers to leave or even has a desire to leave, humans immediately target this and impose ignorant beliefs upon the person. Since the human experience is actively expressed through consciousness of existence, life is given this abstract, arbitrary value as being "precious". It should be cherished and protected at all costs. Forget the fact that death is inevitable. The human wishes to impose itself upon others by controlling when and how someone goes. As if to suggest that there's a "way" to die. Cancer, stray bullet, car wreck, these are all okay. These are the human sanctioned ways to die. They're all part of "god's plan". For someone to go by their own hand? Well, the human can't have that. That's taking power away from both humans and their idea of "god".

This is just my thinking, but there's a power gained in self-termination that no one dares lend credence to. Suicide is probably one of the most powerful forms of self-affirmation in all existence. Something that the human can't control. It shows that one is beyond their control... beyond their world. That's frightening to the power-hungry human.

 

[Why Me?]

It's a deep brain washing that most humans are raised with. It wasn't until recently that I have become convinced that humans should have the legal right to die, and I've lived a nightmare of a life. I wish the reality of this world, and life didn't take this long for me to see, but that is the power of religion. Also, fear of death is human nature, so we fear death for others. Regardless, I hope people stop bringing children into this world without their consent, and at least provide a peaceful exit when a human decides to leave. I'm literally left with only a brutal option as an exit, and I'm hoping I will be courageous enough to take it by the end of the month, because I cannot continue in this non functional torture. No one wants to really help me, because people are super selfish, but no one wants me to CTB, this is crazy!!!

 

[unnormal9]

I agree. But if someone is trying to speak out about our shitty human society, one day it can make a difference. Not today, yes. Also not tomorrow. But maybe later. So, why not?

I value your attempt, @Buddha.chris , even if pro-life don't listen.

No it won't. That is the reality. No point in fighting an impossible cause.
I just want to die, but Nitrate doesn't kill and CCS will likely forever unlisted. I at least wanted a somewhat peaceful death, but nope, looks like that's not possible either anymore.

 

[howl pendragon]

No it won't. That is the reality. No point in fighting an impossible cause.
I just want to die, but Nitrate doesn't kill and CCS will likely forever unlisted. I at least wanted a somewhat peaceful death, but nope, looks like that's not possible either anymore.

I'm sorry that your life experience makes you see life that way. And I'm sorry you have no method avaliable, I'm really sorry to hear your struggles. And I agree, for us today, it's an impossible cause.

But have you ever studied about revolutions, about history, about racism, about LGBT issues, about any social change? They always start with small, impossible struggles, with people who are not heard, but who paviment the way for the people who one day will be heard.

I personally don't have the energy or mental health for fighting this fight. But as long as there are people who do, there is still a small hope that one day things will change.

 

[unnormal9]

I'm sorry that your life experience makes you see life that way.

There's no other way to see it, unless through a shrouded perception, be it privileged and/or having things that guise the reality of suffering: repression.
I've already fought my battles, literally and figuratively. Better to accept reality than to live illusion's delusion.

But have you ever studied about revolutions, about history, about racism, about LGBT issues, about any social change? They always start with small, impossible struggles, with people who are not heard, but who paviment the way for the people who one day will be heard.

Only thing I've studied is game dev.

 

[howl pendragon]

There's no other way to see it, unless through a shrouded perception, be it privileged and/or having things that guise the reality of suffering: repression.
I've already fought my battles, literally and figuratively. Better to accept reality than to live illusion's delusion.

Again, that is your view, and I respect that. And again, I agree with you that this is not a change we're going to see happening any time soon.

But as long as there is someone fighting, one day changes may still occur. I'm not a blind person, who has a futile hope that things will magically work out. On the contrary, I am fully aware that this is not a speech that will help me, or help you, and our life has already been traced by the current state of the society in which we live.

But just as interracial marriage was seen as abhorrent in the 1960s, women didn't vote until the 1930s, and LGBT rights weren't talked about before the 1970s, perhaps one day there will be a truly safe place to talk about suicide in our society. But that will only happen if someone keeps fighting until then.

 

[unnormal9]

Who the fuck's gonna fight for a peaceful suicide method for all and get them all onboard? Euthanasia? Not gate kept Easily accessible as walking through the door, saying yes and finally being done with this shit? That's not reality, that's a dream.

 

[howl pendragon]

@unnormal9 I kindly ask you not to distort my words. That's not what I said.

As I mentioned earlier, I respect your worldview, and do not wish to cause a debate about who is right or wrong. But just as you are entitled to assert that existence is an endless pit of despair, and that nothing will ever work out, I also reserve the right to believe that, as long as there are people willing to try, there is a small chance that that one day something will change, just as several changes have already happened in society throughout human history. Nothing is immutable.

That said, I'll refrain from answering from here on out, as it's not my intention to make anyone feel uncomfortable here. If you were offended by anything I said, I am sorry.
I also apologize for fueling this discussion in your thread, @Buddha.chris

 

[unnormal9]

@unnormal9 I kindly ask you not to distort my words. That's not what I said.

As I mentioned earlier, I respect your worldview, and do not wish to cause a debate about who is right or wrong. But just as you are entitled to assert that existence is an endless pit of despair, and that nothing will ever work out, I also reserve the right to believe that, as long as there are people willing to try, there is a small chance that that one day something will change, just as several changes have already happened in society throughout human history. Nothing is immutable.

That said, I'll refrain from answering from here on out, as it's not my intention to make anyone feel uncomfortable here. If you were offended by anything I said, I am sorry.
I also apologize for fueling this discussion in your thread, @Buddha.chris

I kindly ask you wake up to the reality.
It only took a bitch till now to figure that ignore button exists.

 

[Buddha.chris]

I kindly ask you wake up to the reality.
It only took a bitch till now to figure that ignore button exists.

@unnormal9 I tired blocking you but I couldn't find the block button I don't really want to engage with you and I'm not a bitch most people like to troll and are not serious at all @howl pendragon don't ever apologize for having a option and standing up for it your belief holds value

 

[WorthlessTrash]

@unnormal9 I tired blocking you but I couldn't find the block button I don't really want to engage with you and I'm not a bitch must people like to troll and are not serious at all @howl pendragon don't ever apologize for having a option and standing up for it your belief holds value

Put your cursor over their name, and hit ignore.

 

[unnormal9]

@unnormal9 I tired blocking you but I couldn't find the block button I don't really want to engage with you and I'm not a bitch must people like to troll and are not serious at all @howl pendragon don't ever apologize for having a option and standing up for it your belief holds value

The same one who came to me with that asinine question.
Serious about what? Dying? How seriously suicidal does one have to be, then?

 

[Buddha.chris]

The same one who came to me with that asinine question.
Serious about what? Dying? How seriously suicidal does one have to be, then?

because you made a comment under my post saying you were a "game dev "I was being nice and trying to start convo with you I don't believe anything you say you are very rude to people I seen a couple of your post here and they are almost all very rude it's almost like you are a pro life in disguise in a forum where we are all vulnerable you decide to come and bully people around not cool your most likely going unreported that's why you feel insensible and lol if you want to know my sexual orientation just ask I'm a cis male attracted to trans women only I'm not a bitch

 

[ringo99]

Pro-lifers are just people who lack compassion and are blinded by their delusional beliefs. The reality is that no matter what these people think nobody is obligated to delay their inevitable fate, suicide is a human right and it's inhumane to wish to make people prisoners to this existence until they die anyway. Maybe those people might think differently when they end up being tortured by health problems in the future, old age sounds like hell to me and that's all where humans are headed for.

So it's completely insane to me wanting to remove the option of a peaceful exit when anybody can end up experiencing extreme torture at any moment, humans deserve a way to peacefully end all the suffering, and if some people are delusional enough to want to stay in this harmful world then that is fine for them but they shouldn't have any right to force their beliefs onto other people who are unable to experience existence in the same way.

That's excessive. I wouldn't generalize all pro-lifers as lacking compassion and delusional. I mentioned in an earlier comment that they're all across the spectrum. The majority of people I've met in my daily life are those who simply can't comprehend suicidal people. They've never gone through the series of circumstances that tend to make a person suicidal in the first place. They've never reached a point where the thought of ctb feels more attractive than continuing on with the pain. It's just that they're wired differently from us and that's normal. In fact they genuinely feel that they're helping people like us when limiting access to quick and painless ctb methods thinking that in time circumstances will eventually change enough for us to turn our life around for the better. It comes from a good place even if naive.

 

[EmmaD]

It it clear that anyone who is "pro-life" only wants to strike fear and there campaigns are falling on deaf ears . So they will resort to any means to deflect the conversation elsewhere Instead of taking responsibility for bad parenting and huge egos. I hate my mother for the suffering I faced growing up and her lack of parenting but mainly for bringing me into this nasty ,evil world . I can't understand anyone who will try to deflect their sons or daughters death without taking some soft or responsibility on their part, and not owning up to their mishaps . Probably because they're looking for a deflection so they don't have to think about not being there for their sons or daughters when they really needed them the most that is truly the saddest part about it . Message to the prolife community on Twitter leave us alone we've done nothing to harm anyone but speak our truth and express how we are suffering everyday we don't deserve to be attacked .

I completely agree. The anti SS Twitter community are the most cult like group I've ever known.. they remind me of 'Lord Of the Flies' with their pack mentality.. It turns them into blood thirsty foul mouthed predators when they are in their group and backing one another up. But then alone they can be rational. One of the ones out for my blood the other day then wrote me a nice message privately! (Thank you Cara xx)
But yes you are right. They are pushing their own guilt onto SS. We all know this. I know if any of my kids ctb I'd be jumping straight off a cliff from the guilt. I couldn't forgive myself.
Best advice I can give is to do what I've done since I last came off Twitter… just don't look on there anymore..I even asked my husband to block Twitter somehow on my phone so that I'm not tempted to look! I'm always too tempted by conflict with stupid people.. and they really are the dumbest fucks I've ever had the misfortune to encounter..

 

[ringo99]

I completely agree. The anti SS Twitter community are the most cult like group I've ever known.. they remind me of 'Lord Of the Flies' with their pack mentality.. It turns them into blood thirsty foul mouthed predators when they are in their group and backing one another up. But then alone they can be rational. One of the ones out for my blood the other day then wrote me a nice message privately! (Thank you Cara xx)
But yes you are right. They are pushing their own guilt onto SS. We all know this. I know if any of my kids ctb I'd be jumping straight off a cliff from the guilt. I couldn't forgive myself.
Best advice I can give is to do what I've done since I last came off Twitter… just don't look on there anymore..I even asked my husband to block Twitter somehow on my phone so that I'm not tempted to look! I'm always too tempted by conflict with stupid people.. and they really are the dumbest fucks I've ever had the misfortune to encounter..

Good of you to block that dumpster fire of an app. Same with facebook. I deactivated my account 5 years ago and never looked back. Hopefully Elon will keep doing what he's doing and run twitter into the ground eventually.

 

[EmmaD]

You want to die?
Yet, don't want your kids to know about this site?

This is where we can express ourselves. It's nothing wrong, nor does it tell anyone to die.

Your interpretation is wrong.

Why are you even talking to me on this thread?
So are you a pro lifer or what?
What's your story? Trying to get me offline begging for the brutal details of abuse I've received for your own titillation?
I don't know what your deal is but as far as I'm concerned you shouldn't be on here. You're dodgy as fuck.

 

[EmmaD]

I am not.
You get intercourse with your hub whom you tell to have abused you just to spit out two kids of your Vagina?
Then be unable to decide whether or not to act good in front of them by telling them that their dad was bad?

He wasn't. I know him. But, you were to him. A confused mother, a bad wife.

No, I am not any lifer, but you seem to be a loafer

See, I still care for you hence I deleted the last message.
And, I am sorry. But, you hurt me too.

And, that feels really bad.
Sorry for my erratic behavior.

Look you fucking freak. I'm pretty sure you're going to get banned sooner or later. There's no fucking WAY you're a woman in the US who knows about law.. as you told me in the insta messages..
You're some kind of freak pervert who gets turned on by women being abused.. you made that CRYSTAL CLEAR by how you begged me for the detail.
Ugh. You're a disgusting excuse for a person..