Venting Attention to those lurkers: This is what we want you to know and try to understand about us...

[darkest]

It's a bit like an ex smoker that suddenly becomes ANTI. That's literally how you sound, "only we know everything about suicidal thoughts, lurkers couldn't POSSIBLY".

Get a grip people. Just because you're on a suicide forum, it doesn't make you a fucking expert. What about those that have killed themselves without looking at methods on a website (you know before the Internet, people did kill themselves easily..).

and this to you sounds like being "calm"? sure, big guy. you totally didn't make fun of how "people" sound (which is easy to assume is directed towards everyone that agrees with OP not just OP) so naturally how you sound is totally calm to everyone!

I didn't imply anyone was against me.

why so defensive then?

Just because you couldn't handle what I said, you thought the best thing would be to attack me? Is that really the way you deal with everything?

yea, actually, lol

I didn't call anyone names, like you did. I didn't tell anyone to calm down, like you did. So who has the real issue? Perhaps look at yourself before looking at others. Have you never heard of 'being kind' to others? I suppose not. Your comment says it all really.

no, no i haven't. apparently telling someone to calm down doesn't make them take a step back to think about their comments but instead gets them to be defensive, lovely to learn!

Sometimes we have to look out for those that *are* being attacked, that can't defend themselves which is *all* I did, which evidently you cannot handle.

buddy, they can come in and defend themselves, some of which, with or without accounts, can be the exact type of person against the two of us, who are you tryna defend when NO BODY tried to attack shy people that lurk here and there, that THROUGH CONTEXT CLUES were clearly not the subject of speech, yes we all lurked around before entering.

Have a lovely night, I hope your day improves

thank you! had a bad one so yes part of this was getting it out on someone, sorry that you were that guy, hope you have a good one too man

 

[slinkey10]

chillax big guy, this is very obviously targeted to lurkers that are actually trying to find any way to take the website down or whatever other malicious intent they may have.

I get that it wasn't very clearly worded, but context man, calm your horses, no one's against you here, jeez.

lol passive aggressive response. "chillax big guy" - are you joking?

MyTimeIsUp has nailed it.... bait post to start with imo :)

I have tried every available treatment. Electroshock therapy gave me a lot of memory loss further traumatizing me. Ive tried a million meds a lot making me worse than I already am. Ive already done a lot of therapy. Im done being a guniea pig . Some people cant be helped let them be able to end their suffering

ECT... wow. Gutted for u :(

Back on topic as MyTimeIsUp stated "I bet most of you were lurkers before you actually joined. I wasn't planning on actually joining, but I noticed how I could relate to others, so I joined"

exactly the same for me... lurked for ages! Takes some courage for some to actually join.

 

[OptingOutSmiling]

That a site like this is a lifeline to some of us, in finding a way to get out or to be around like-minded people. I didn't even know a person could "lurk" and joined immediately as finding this site was the best thing that could've happened to me at the time. If lurking as a potential member for the same reason as existing members, I suppose it's okay. But if lurking with no common ground or understanding, I would expect such lurkers to simply leave the community alone without doing any harm to the forum.

 

[danny10]

I have tried every available treatment. Electroshock therapy gave me a lot of memory loss further traumatizing me. Ive tried a million meds a lot making me worse than I already am. Ive already done a lot of therapy. Im done being a guniea pig . Some people cant be helped let them be able to end their suffering

I had the same experience. I also tried electroshock therapy and it only gave me memory loss. Now my short term memory seems fucked as I often forget simple things. This of course feeds my depression. Also tried almost all meds available in my country and countless hours of therapy, meditation, etc etc. Nothing seems to help me.

 

[divinemistress36]

I had the same experience. I also tried electroshock therapy and it only gave me memory loss. Now my short term memory seems fucked as I often forget simple things. This of course feeds my depression. Also tried almost all meds available in my country and countless hours of therapy, meditation, etc etc. Nothing seems to help me.

Its cruel how we are being used as guniea pigs

 

[dontwakemeup]

To the lurkers:

Talking down on us for attempting doesn't make us feel guilty. It makes us feel more like shit and brings our self esteem even lower.

Saying others have it worse than us doesn't help matters. You have no idea what goes through our minds, or what we go through each day just to get through the day.

If I could find some way to put you in my shoes for one week, I promise you, after about a day, you'll be begging to take them off. You'll see a darker side of hell you've never knew existed.


For my fellow SaSu family:

I was told by a psychiatrist one day, that our brains are like a series of wires, and somewhere along the way, some of our wires got twisted, which leads to the way we feel and react to things, which in turn causes depression and/or suicidal thoughts. She also said people going through chronic pain, will wind up having the same thought process, trying to find a way to ease the pain.

In a way, it kind of makes sense, but it didn't make me feel better.

I hate the "someone has it worse" comments! Please stop saying this to us! To me you are making me feel like my issues aren't valued in respect to others. I can't measure others pain, only mines. Stop invalidating how we feel please.

Why are you literally all presuming all lurkers have never dealt with the things you have?

I was a lurker for 6 months before I actually joined.

I had dealt with wanting to die since I was a child. I am 35.

I have tried to kill myself absolutely countless times

Shall I go on?

Never presume lurkers haven't got a CLUE about mental illness or wanting to die. I bet most of you were lurkers before you actually joined. I wasn't planning on actually joining, but I noticed how I could relate to others, so I joined

It's a bit like an ex smoker that suddenly becomes ANTI. That's literally how you sound, "only we know everything about suicidal thoughts, lurkers couldn't POSSIBLY".

Get a grip people. Just because you're on a suicide forum, it doesn't make you a fucking expert. What about those that have killed themselves without looking at methods on a website (you know before the Internet, people did kill themselves easily..).

To me an expert is someone who have dealt with such issues personally and able to empathize with others dealing with the same issue. Of course, that's not the technical definition of an expert. My post was intended to give people an opportunity to say things they want to help others understand as it relates to suicide. It seems most people understood my post and I thank everyone that responded.

Why are you literally all presuming all lurkers have never dealt with the things you have?

I was a lurker for 6 months before I actually joined.

I had dealt with wanting to die since I was a child. I am 35.

I have tried to kill myself absolutely countless times

Shall I go on?

Never presume lurkers haven't got a CLUE about mental illness or wanting to die. I bet most of you were lurkers before you actually joined. I wasn't planning on actually joining, but I noticed how I could relate to others, so I joined

It's a bit like an ex smoker that suddenly becomes ANTI. That's literally how you sound, "only we know everything about suicidal thoughts, lurkers couldn't POSSIBLY".

Get a grip people. Just because you're on a suicide forum, it doesn't make you a fucking expert. What about those that have killed themselves without looking at methods on a website (you know before the Internet, people did kill themselves easily..).

To me an expert is someone who have dealt with such issues personally and able to empathize with others dealing with the same issue. Of course, that's not the technical definition of an expert. My post was intended to give people an opportunity to say things they want to help others understand as it relates to suicide. It seems most people understood my post and I thank everyone that responded.

 

[slinkey10]

I hate the "someone has it worse" comments! Please stop saying this to us! To me you are making me feel like my issues aren't valued in respect to others. I can't measure others pain, only mines. Stop invalidating how we feel please.

Of course, that's not the technical definition of an expert. My post was intended to give people an opportunity to say things they want to help others understand as it relates to suicide. It seems most people understood my post and I thank everyone that responded.

To me an expert is someone who have dealt with such issues personally and able to empathize with others dealing with the same issue. Of course, that's not the technical definition of an expert. My post was intended to give people an opportunity to say things they want to help others understand as it relates to suicide. It seems most people understood my post and I thank everyone that responded.

"To me an expert is someone who have dealt with such issues personally and able to empathize with others dealing with the same issue"

..everything is relative to the individual - there is no 'expert' that can empathise with every single experience. I kind of get what you were trying to do but some of the responses are just.... non responses.

Just as MyTimeIsUp said: IMO they are entitled to their opinion without being gaslit.

"My post was intended to give people an opportunity to say things they want to help others understand as it relates to suicide. It seems most people understood my post and I thank everyone that responded" ... you have basically de valued what MyTimeIsUp said lol

Your post was bait IMO & was focussed on 'lurkers not contributing or, contributing negatively' - and would only encourage 'lurkers' to keep lurking & not join in & grow this forum.

Hope u got the likes/thumbs up you wanted :)