Method Carbon monoxide megathread

[Dani Paradox]

Typical advice seems to be to heat the coals in your charcoal burner outside until the whole lot is grey or glowing and not smoking, it should contain about a kilo which seems to be the recommended amount for a small tent or vehicle. if the bbq is quite small and has legs that don't touch the ground and aren't too hot then bring it inside once its not giving off enough heat to make it too hot in the tent. Use you judgement to see if it poses a risk to either the floor or the roof. Otherwise put the coals in a steel bucket and put on a heat resistant surface like a water filled metal plate. I can't give advice on what tent to use. Take medication and vodka to last for at least 6 hours, mkae sure it's not getting too hot in there and put on some music and zip up. Advice seems to be to lie with your head at the far end of the tent away from the door.The advice is not to be disturbed for at least 7 or 8 hours. This is what i have gleaned from posts in here and is general advice, not necessarily for you to use personally, right?

I guess my main concern is the tent. It's definitely small enough to reach a high concentration. If 1 kilo can gas a whole apartment then this tent is solid... I'd have to set it up to measure the exact size, but I believe it is approximately 3.5 feet high....maybe a bit higher. Maybe about 4 feet wide?? It should be just the right size.....

 

[weedoge]

Typical advice seems to be to heat the coals in your charcoal burner outside until the whole lot is grey or glowing and not smoking, it should contain about a kilo which seems to be the recommended amount for a small tent or vehicle. if the bbq is quite small and has legs that don't touch the ground and aren't too hot then bring it inside once its not giving off enough heat to make it too hot in the tent. Use you judgement to see if it poses a risk to either the floor or the roof. Otherwise put the coals in a steel bucket and put on a heat resistant surface like a water filled metal plate. I can't give advice on what tent to use. Take medication and vodka to last for at least 6 hours, mkae sure it's not getting too hot in there and put on some music and zip up. Advice seems to be to lie with your head at the far end of the tent away from the door.The advice is not to be disturbed for at least 7 or 8 hours. This is what i have gleaned from posts in here and is general advice, not necessarily for you to use personally, right?

Also don't leave coals in the charcoal burner. You need to tip them into another container

 

[weedoge]

I guess my main concern is the tent. It's definitely small enough to reach a high concentration. If 1 kilo can gas a whole apartment then this tent is solid... I'd have to set it up to measure the exact size, but I believe it is approximately 3.5 feet high....maybe a bit higher. Maybe about 4 feet wide?? It should be just the right size.....

You know for a fact that a 2 man tent works... Yes it would be fine.

 

[Dani Paradox]

You know for a fact that a 2 man tent works... Yes it would be fine.

I am not sure how much charcoal will fit in the burner, but 13 lbs is definitely excessive and will do the deed in no time...

 

[406blue]

Like a said, the main thing to consider is the heat generated. Tent fabric will dissipate heat more quickly that a car for example so you should be okay as long as the coals aren't too hot. I recommend doing a trial run, burn the coals until they are grey on top, wait half an hour, put them in the tent and zip up. If it seems too hot in there then try again letting them cool down before putting them in until the temperature inside feels warm but not too uncomfortable. Coals will give off CO when warm. In my experience you need to be able to place your hand over them at about 12 inches and be able to bear it. Your tent size sounds reasonable but remember there are no guarantees with this method.

 

[Dani Paradox]

As far as I know, most if not all tents are made out of the same material. With concern for the tent being sealed properly so that limited gas escapes....is it just a matter of making sure there are no holes and whatnot? Or do I have to be worried of the gas escaping right through the material? Should I tape up the inside of the tent with something? I have a flame retardant material that I suppose I could seal the inside with for added assurance.

 

[Dani Paradox]

Like a said, the main thing to consider is the heat generated. Tent fabric will dissipate heat more quickly that a car for example so you should be okay as long as the coals aren't too hot. I recommend doing a trial run, burn the coals until they are grey on top, wait half an hour, put them in the tent and zip up. If it seems too hot in there then try again letting them cool down before putting them in until the temperature inside feels warm but not too uncomfortable. Coals will give off CO when warm. In my experience you need to be able to place your hand over them at about 12 inches and be able to bear it. Your tent size sounds reasonable but remember there are no guarantees with this method.

?! it's been my understanding that it is a reliable method...…. It's not??

 

[406blue]

How many kilos is 13lbs?

It's relatively reliable yes, but people do survive with nasty injuries. I'm supposing the ones that do survive weren't blitzed on benzos and large amounts of alcohol to put them to deep sleep for 8 hours, especially children. Even for small doses of CO it seems that artificially induced sleep might be the key to staying asleep long enough not to have an issue waking up as the co replaces the oxygen in the body.ie booze, valium and sleeping pills. However, fully uninebriated people do die from co poisoning and so... it's unreliable. It's a question of maximising your chances.

 

[Dani Paradox]

How many kilos is 13lbs?

It's relatively reliable yes, but people do survive with nasty injuries. I'm supposing the ones that do survive weren't blitzed on benzos and large amounts of alcohol to put them to deep sleep for 8 hours, especially children. Even for small doses of CO it seems that artificially induced sleep might be the key to staying asleep long enough not to have an issue waking up as the co replaces the oxygen in the body.ie booze, valium and sleeping pills. However, fully uninebriated people do die from co poisoning and so... it's unreliable. It's a question of maximising your chances.

I'll have no issue downing over a fifth of scotch, I know that much. It's difficult for me to imagine how I could possibly survive unless the gas somehow got out of the tent.. The CO itself renders you unconscious in low amounts, so I don't see how waking up would be an issue. I know Zanexx went out peacefully. I wish I had asked how about the specifics of how she went about it..

 

[weedoge]

How many kilos is 13lbs?

It's relatively reliable yes, but people do survive with nasty injuries. I'm supposing the ones that do survive weren't blitzed on benzos and large amounts of alcohol to put them to deep sleep for 8 hours, especially children. Even for small doses of CO it seems that artificially induced sleep might be the key to staying asleep long enough not to have an issue waking up as the co replaces the oxygen in the body.ie booze, valium and sleeping pills. However, fully uninebriated people do die from co poisoning and so... it's unreliable. It's a question of maximising your chances.

Honestly I think this method is reliably lethal if done right and i also take any account of waking up later with a pinch of salt since CO is notoriously dangerous and undetectable, replacing oxygen in your bloodstream has no reflex so long as carbon dioxide is still being removed.

There's no guarantees with any method if you skimp on important details.

 

[Dani Paradox]

Ideally you should be dead in less than 2 hours

 

[406blue]

As for the tent material, i'm afraid you'll have to check elsewhere in the threads for that, i know there have been discussions about permeability. That's why i prefer a vehicle myself, not to say your tent isn't okay. Plenty of people have died from CO gasses in tents and they didn't tape them up before their family holiday and a nice night's sleep on the devon coast.

 

[406blue]

That's true weedoge, but i read 2 recent cases in the uk where a guy woke up in the night with a terrible and headache and paralysis to find his partner dead beside him. I think the important details they skipped on were not getting smashed and bringing in the coals too cool perhaps, but who knows. One died and one didn't.

 

[Ssname]

I think this method is highly effective. People die from barbecuing in the rain and pitting the BBQ in the open door of the tent. Not that I would leave anything open in a suiside attempt but CO is an extremely dangerous gas.

 

[Dani Paradox]

This particular tent gets HOT AS FUCK during a hot summer day or night. If it's 100 degrees out, it's impossible to be comfortable inside the tent. I suppose that means that it's very poorly ventilated.

 

[406blue]

Correct i would say. i think ideally from a co tent or car point of view it's more reliable to do it when it's colder outside. But just do a test if you can do so discreetly, or go to a campsite or isolated place in a colder climate if the coals make the thing too hot. Sure, the ones from hong kong and korea seem to get away with it so what do i know.. BBq1 said his car got up to 32c while it was 24 outside and it seemed bearable, but he was waiting for the outside temperature to get to 14. My experience was at night at 20c after a long 2 hr burn of coals outside and it was bloody hot in the car half an hour later. One could open the windows but that would rather defeat the object! Experiment with it.

 

[Dani Paradox]

There is also the option of putting a large tarp over the top of the tent

 

[Dani Paradox]

Correct i would say. i think ideally from a co tent or car point of view it's more reliable to do it when it's colder outside. But just do a test if you can do so discreetly, or go to a campsite or isolated place in a colder climate if the coals make the thing too hot. Sure, the ones from hong kong and korea seem to get away with it so what do i know.. BBq1 said his car got up to 32c while it was 24 outside and it seemed bearable, but he was waiting for the outside temperature to get to 14. My experience was at night at 20c after a long 2 hr burn of coals outside and it was bloody hot in the car half an hour later. One could open the windows but that would rather defeat the object! Experiment with it.

Yes, it will be cold outside when I do it. Likely in the 40's, I would say. Why does that matter though? Just to make the heat from the coals comfortable?

 

[Dani Paradox]

I am tempted to do this inside of my tent inside of my shed outside, but my father will find me a couple of days later, and I imagine the CO will pose a threat to him....

 

[406blue]

At the end of the day weedoge is right, as long as the shit doesn't burn your tent down and it's quite well sealed with a kilo of smouldering coals lurking inside and yes, with a tarp on top of the tent, small enclosed space, plenty of CO and limited oxygen, your chances of departing this piteous life seem to be high. Bonne chance

 

[406blue]

it's just my personal opinion that if you do this in mid summer then the coals will increase the tent temperature to the point where despite the benzos etc it might get uncomfortable enough to wake the sleeper up or at least arouse him. Do a test after smouldering charcoal for 2 hours and you will discover it's still rather hot and so is the receptacle in a small enclosed space.

 

[406blue]

So my advice would just be to let them burn down as much as possible to allow a comfortable enclosed space, while retaining maximum energy.

 

[Dani Paradox]

This is probably a stupid question, but when someone opens the tent will they be harmed?

 

[406blue]

I read somewhere about this happening, it's not a silly question. Most people will instinctively recoil but you never know someone might dive in to try to save you. Put up a sign oustide saying do not enter carbon monoxide and call the emergency services and maybe something about do not interfere, although paramedics might ignore it these days. Just opening it i doubt would harm anyone significantly, they might faint if they stood there for a few seconds, i really don't know my friend.

 

[406blue]

By the way, to end up, every case of accidental death by carbon monoxide i can find involved at least one survivor. Whereas the majority of attempted suicides involve.... quite a few survivors among them as well. Yes, CO is deadly but as weedoge points out, the circumstances have to be right. I think we all know by now what's necessary to have the best chance of success.

 

[Dani Paradox]

By the way, to end up, every case of accidental death by carbon monoxide i can find involved at least one survivor. Whereas the majority of attempted suicides involve.... quite a few survivors among them as well. Yes, CO is deadly but as weedoge points out, the circumstances have to be right. I think we all know by now what's necessary to have the best chance of success.

I have a small plastic shed in my backyard that is poorly ventilated. A couple of vents at the very top. Aside from that, just the cracks on the sides where it was put together. It gets very very hot in the summer. My tent would fit right inside. With my tent inside, AND a tarp over the top...….seems foolproof to me. Hell, I could even put more charcoal in the shed on the outside of the tent for added assurance. That whole fucking thing would go up well above 10,000 ppm with the tent included. I'm just worried about my father getting harmed when he finds me...

 

[Dani Paradox]

God, I wish I could do this right now...…

 

[Dani Paradox]

That would be impossible to survive....

 

[weedoge]

I have a small plastic shed in my backyard that is poorly ventilated. A couple of vents at the very top. Aside from that, just the cracks on the sides where it was put together. It gets very very hot in the summer. My tent would fit right inside. With my tent inside, AND a tarp over the top...….seems foolproof to me. Hell, I could even put more charcoal in the shed on the outside of the tent for added assurance. That whole fucking thing would go up well above 10,000 ppm with the tent included. I'm just worried about my father getting harmed when he finds me...

Did you read the 8chan thread or anything? The tent needs to be a water proof, SINGLE SKIN its really important, with taped seams.

 

[Dani Paradox]

Did you read the 8chan thread or anything? The tent needs to be a water proof, SINGLE SKIN its really important, with taped seams.

I have not seen that thread. I'll check it out, thanks.