Venting Could life have been good?

[Fall_Apart]

Sometimes I wonder if life could have been good for any of us. But then I realize that the luck of living a good life in the first place is just a matter of statistics. There are too many variables for all of them to line up perfectly, so as to create the conditions for a good life. You are born into the wrong family, you are born in the wrong place, you are born with physical or mental illnesses, you are born into a country where there is war, poverty and abuse. You are much more likely to have one of these problems in your life than to be born in the right place, with the right family and in good economic conditions. Despite all this crap, sometimes I like to think that life could have been worth living, instead of having spent so much of my life thinking about how to die. This doesn't make sense, I know, but I would like to know what you think.

 

[ButterflyKilled]

É relativo. Eu já conheci pessoas próximas que vieram de péssimas famílias, com péssimos problemas e péssima condição financeira, passando fome, e hoje elas estão vivendo muitíssimo bem. Eu creio que a vida acaba por ser tratada como uma opção - viver ou não viver, de acordo com a eleição pessoal, pois os problemas hão de existir a todos, porém é certo que o peso vai variar e alguns serão mais sortudos, pois sorte existe, e assim muitos são felizes e se sentem agraciados pelo dom da vida. A forma como a pessoa vai lidar com eles também impacta, pois sempre adotar um tom pessimista não vai resolver nem ajudar nada.

 

[Nobody'sHero]

For me it was about guidance. I feel like if I had a bit more guidance, a present father figure, a surrounding that understood what I've been going through and had the ability to guide me a bit more through my emotions and thoughts, a surrounding that I feel safe to share in, etc. If I could go back in time with the things I know now I think I might be able to have a fulfilling life. Right now it just feels like I have burned too many bridges, don't really know how to get along with others, have many emotional/social deficiencies, too far gone... I think about the future and I can't say I like what the prospects are and I'm absolutely exhausted of trying to figure out shit on my own, over thinking, burnout, the ups and downs... I'm just kind of done...

É relativo. Eu já conheci pessoas próximas que vieram de péssimas famílias, com péssimos problemas e péssima condição financeira, passando fome, e hoje elas estão vivendo muitíssimo bem. Eu creio que a vida acaba por ser tratada como uma opção - viver ou não viver, de acordo com a eleição pessoal, pois os problemas hão de existir a todos, porém é certo que o peso vai variar e alguns serão mais sortudos, pois sorte existe, e assim muitos são felizes e se sentem agraciados pelo dom da vida. A forma como a pessoa vai lidar com eles também impacta, pois sempre adotar um tom pessimista não vai resolver nem ajudar nada.

I agree with you, it has a lot to do with how you deal with things. A positive/proactive attitude goes a very long way and can overcome the luck of the draw that you start with. It's a shame that some of us just don't hear the music... Pessimism/depression/negativity ruins even the best of luck and I think that's one of the most depressing things about being depressed/having poor mental health: Sometimes, there is no visible reason to being so depressed which makes you even more depressed...

 

[ButterflyKilled]

For me it was about guidance. I feel like if I had a bit more guidance, a present father figure, a surrounding that understood what I've been going through and had the ability to guide me a bit more through my emotions and thoughts, a surrounding that I feel safe to share in, etc. If I could go back in time with the things I know now I think I might be able to have a fulfilling life. Right now it just feels like I have burned too many bridges, don't really know how to get along with others, have many emotional/social deficiencies, too far gone... I think about the future and I can't say I like what the prospects are and I'm absolutely exhausted of trying to figure out shit on my own, over thinking, burnout, the ups and downs... I'm just kind of done...

I agree with you, it has a lot to do with how you deal with things. A positive/proactive attitude goes a very long way and can overcome the luck of the draw that you start with. It's a shame that some of us just don't hear the music... Pessimism/depression/negativity ruins even the best of luck and I think that's one of the most depressing things about being depressed/having poor mental health: Sometimes, there is no visible reason to being so depressed which makes you even more depressed...

É certo, por isso que menciono a vida como uma eleição pessoal, pois muitos sabem que há saída (inclusive eu), mas a depressão é tão severa, que é difícil convencer a si mesmo que sim, há outros meios e caminhos que podem levar à felicidade. Por mais injusta e desgraçada que possa ser a vida, também se pode atingir um patamar agradável e ter bons momentos, por mais que eu, particularmente, não ache que compense tantas coisas ruins cotidianas por poucos momentos de verdadeira felicidade.

 

[TheHolySword]

not for me

 

[FuneralCry]

No, never for me as I just don't see existence as a desirable state at all, for me existence itself is the true problem that just causes so much suffering all for the sake of it and problems there were never a need for, it's all just so cruel and unnecessary to me and I just find it so tragic how this existence was even imposed at all when never existing was perfection. I personally find it the most torturous burden to be conscious in this existence capable of suffering to unlimited extents destined to decay and die anyway and I'd just never wish for any of this no matter what rather I only hope for non-existence, to me existence just feels like a terrible mistake and simply just existing is enough to make me wish for death, I'll always find it so dreadful to exist, I just want all to be gone and forgotten for me in non-existence, I wish for no more pain, no more suffering, the peace of non-existence really would solve everything for me.

 

[divinemistress36]

Without mental illness I think life could be ok for us maybe not good cause life is suffering but it could be neutral

 

[Nobody'sHero]

Without mental illness I think life could be ok for us maybe not good cause life is suffering but it could be neutral

There's plenty of people out there enjoying their lives, rolling with the punches... I think the ideal would be to embrace the challenges that life brings and be energized by overcoming them. At least that's what I have seen... That's difficult when you are always battling your own brain...

É certo, por isso que menciono a vida como uma eleição pessoal, pois muitos sabem que há saída (inclusive eu), mas a depressão é tão severa, que é difícil convencer a si mesmo que sim, há outros meios e caminhos que podem levar à felicidade. Por mais injusta e desgraçada que possa ser a vida, também se pode atingir um patamar agradável e ter bons momentos, por mais que eu, particularmente, não ache que compense tantas coisas ruins cotidianas por poucos momentos de verdadeira felicidade.

I guess that is one of the biggest challenges for most of us here: Convince ourselves that we are as deserving of a good life as any other person and make that choice... I have tried so hard to break out of this shit, but at this point it just feels like I've been learning to become human this whole time... Time is running out...

 

[Fall_Apart]

Without mental illness I think life could be ok for us maybe not good cause life is suffering but it could be neutral

I agree, just a neutral life would have been acceptable.

 

[avalonisburning]

No.